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Title: Buzz's Leading eye theory - small survey
Post by: Buzz on March 03, 2011, 05:39:07 PM
Hello - my corollary is this - whether you bat left or right handed is governed by which is your leading/dominant eye.

If you don't know which is your leading eye...
1.Choose two vertical edges or objects, one a few feet behind the other - looking through a doorframe to something on the wall behind is ideal.
2.Stand about 10 feet away from the closest edge.
3.Look carefully at the alignment of the edges or objects.
4.Without moving, cover or close one eye and look at the objects with the other eye.
5.Switch eyes, looking through the eye you had previously covered, and closing the other one.
6.Look at the objects with both eyes again.
7.You should now be able to identify which eye observed little or no real change, and which eye noticed a shift in the the objects. Repeat the previous steps if needed.
8.The eye which observed a change in the objects is your non-dominant eye. The eye which observed the same view as with both eyes open is your dominant eye!
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Post by: peplow on March 03, 2011, 05:43:34 PM
Lhb right eye for me. Believe that's going with what should be a strong correlation.
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Post by: roco on March 03, 2011, 05:45:53 PM
Rhb left eye good test
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Post by: revboy on March 03, 2011, 05:46:18 PM
RHB left eye
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Post by: procricket on March 03, 2011, 05:48:52 PM
left handed but bat right handed and right eyed
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Post by: alexrickyponting on March 03, 2011, 05:50:03 PM
RHB left eye
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Post by: Tom on March 03, 2011, 05:51:17 PM
RHB Left Eye
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Post by: Colesy on March 03, 2011, 05:51:30 PM
RHB RLE
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Post by: tim2000s on March 03, 2011, 05:52:23 PM
Hello - my corollary is this - whether you bat left or right handed is governed by which is your leading/dominant eye.

If you don't know which is your leading eye...
1.Choose two vertical edges or objects, one a few feet behind the other - looking through a doorframe to something on the wall behind is ideal.
2.Stand about 10 feet away from the closest edge.
3.Look carefully at the alignment of the edges or objects.
4.Without moving, cover or close one eye and look at the objects with the other eye.
5.Switch eyes, looking through the eye you had previously covered, and closing the other one.
6.Look at the objects with both eyes again.
7.You should now be able to identify which eye observed little or no real change, and which eye noticed a shift in the the objects. Repeat the previous steps if needed.
8.The eye which observed a change in the objects is your non-dominant eye. The eye which observed the same view as with both eyes open is your dominant eye!

Spoke to an optometrist about how to check this this morning.

1. Look at an object some distance away with both eyes.
2. use your finger to cover said point.
3. Cover one eye and then the other. The eye for which your finger remains covering the object is the dominant one.
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Post by: Canners on March 03, 2011, 05:59:23 PM
Spoke to an optometrist about how to check this this morning.

1. Look at an object some distance away with both eyes.
2. use your finger to cover said point.
3. Cover one eye and then the other. The eye for which your finger remains covering the object is the dominant one.

cheers i finally get this now

RHB left eye dominant
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Post by: Alvaro on March 03, 2011, 06:01:42 PM
LHB LEL
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Post by: Tumo on March 03, 2011, 06:02:27 PM
RHB left eye dominant. I think...
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Post by: tommo256 on March 03, 2011, 06:02:53 PM
Im virtually blind in right eye so
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Post by: Canners on March 03, 2011, 06:08:54 PM
Im virtually blind in right eye so

2 much alone time ?
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Post by: Mr Cricket on March 03, 2011, 06:10:59 PM
RHB and Right eyed, favour the leg side.
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Post by: tommo256 on March 03, 2011, 06:11:15 PM
Since last time i doubt i'll be left alone again
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Post by: alexrickyponting on March 03, 2011, 06:13:01 PM
Spoke to an optometrist about how to check this this morning.

1. Look at an object some distance away with both eyes.
2. use your finger to cover said point.
3. Cover one eye and then the other. The eye for which your finger remains covering the object is the dominant one.

i got rhb left eye dominant with buzzes and rhb right eye dominant with yours. confused.com
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Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2011, 06:16:54 PM
I'm all right.
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Post by: pacman75cricket on March 03, 2011, 06:20:23 PM
RHB right eye dominant
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Post by: Canners on March 03, 2011, 06:22:01 PM
I'm all right.

i always said you were alright ;)
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Post by: Liam-SCCC on March 03, 2011, 06:22:37 PM
I'm RHB and rigt eye dominant. Couldn't understand buzzs test

What does thus all mean then?
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Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on March 03, 2011, 06:55:25 PM
Leftie.... but RHB and Lisa Left Eye Lopez
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Post by: Bulldog Cricket on March 03, 2011, 07:06:49 PM
another good test here.

http://www.archeryweb.com/archery/eyedom.htm

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Post by: tim2000s on March 03, 2011, 07:07:09 PM
My test determines which is your aiming eye, which is what you will dominate with when trying to hit a moving target.
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Post by: Bez013 on March 03, 2011, 07:07:43 PM
I attended a fascinating talk a few years ago about dyslexia as the company I worked for were championing a Dyslexia charity, they put everyone through the same test and explained that generally people are same hand same eye - they were suggesting that only a small percentage of the population have opposites.

I am right handed but left eye dominant, so was the girl next to me, we were the only people in the room to have opposites out of about 30 so did the test a few times to make sure! 

I asked a question to the person giving the presentation as it just so happened that both of us had played a lot of sports that did involve hitting stances where you were right side but left eye forward so I wondered if playing the sports for a number of years might have lead to the dominant eye being the one furthest forward, the presenter said that we would have been that way anyway

Studies have been done in South Africa on cricketers, I can't find the website anymore, but I seem to recall the findings were that it overall didn't make a huge difference.
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Post by: Buzz on March 03, 2011, 07:19:30 PM
sorry, my test is a rubbish one I copied from the internet before rushing into a meeting. Tim's is much better
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Post by: Bez013 on March 03, 2011, 07:23:21 PM
The test we did involves getting a piece of card or paper with a hole in the middle held at arms length, focus on something on the wall or a distant object and slowly draw the card back towards your face, whichever eye the hole ends up over is the dominant eye.
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Post by: Opener on March 03, 2011, 07:33:04 PM
I am right handed and right eye dominant. Could be a reason I feel most comfortable playing right arm over and least comfortable playing right arm around (more comfortable playing left arm over).
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Post by: Buzz on March 03, 2011, 07:33:56 PM
I suppose I need to add "are you any good as a batsman?" too or perhaps "do you bat in the top 5 for your team?" or something, I am not sure. But given the responses so far, my theory isn't up to much :(

please can more people do the survey!!!
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Post by: Opener on March 03, 2011, 07:37:07 PM
The easiest test I found online was join your thumbs and index fingers to create a small hole/triangle (less than 2 inches diameter). Focus on a distant object. Close each eye one at a time. The eye which, when closed, will hide the object is your dominant eye.

I usually play in the top 4. Open most often.
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Post by: Talisman on March 03, 2011, 08:08:10 PM
Please remember that a fair few people will not be aware of left and right and might have entered the wrong answer.
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Post by: jonpinson on March 03, 2011, 08:13:47 PM
Interesting results. When we were taught to shoot we were told it that it is important to use your dominant eye, even if this resulted in you having to shoot on your weaker side. Makes sense once you understand it though.
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Post by: jonpinson on March 03, 2011, 08:19:05 PM
jonpinson, can't you counter that by closing your dominant eye when you're shooting?

There is a bit more to it than that, but in basic terms yes you can, I've even seen some folks shoot right handed but with their left eye. Broken neck territory that is. :D
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Post by: procricket on March 03, 2011, 08:22:19 PM
and some weapons cocking handles working parts  and such only come on one side so you have no choice at all
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Post by: will5210 on March 03, 2011, 08:26:26 PM
I appear to be left eyed but bat right handed.
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Post by: mattw on March 03, 2011, 11:02:27 PM
RHB and right eye dominant - shows why i favour the leg side
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Post by: tim2000s on March 03, 2011, 11:08:54 PM
RHB and right eye dominant - shows why i favour the leg side
You should favour the offside......
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Post by: mattw on March 03, 2011, 11:12:43 PM
Well I favour the leg side anyway..
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Post by: roco on March 03, 2011, 11:14:58 PM
I favour straight personally
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Post by: Buzz on March 04, 2011, 12:09:26 PM
Only 36 people have so far voted... on my other survey which as proved remarkably inconclusive please can as many of you answer the survey... I am a stubborn so and so and won't give this up!! I still believe in my theory.

In fact I am so stubborn I may do a second survey along the lines of... what do you guys think?

Q1 my leading eye is the same as the way I bat (i.e. right eye, RHB) and I bat in the top 5 for my team
Q2 my leading eye is the same as the way I bat (i.e. right eye, RHB) and I bat below the top 5 for my team
Q3 my leading eye is different to the way I bat (i.e. left eye, RHB) and I bat in the top 5 for my team
Q4 my leading eye is different the way I bat (i.e. left eye, RHB) and I bat below the top 5 for my team
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Post by: tim2000s on March 04, 2011, 01:16:25 PM
Only 36 people have so far voted... on my other survey which as proved remarkably inconclusive please can as many of you answer the survey... I am a stubborn so and so and won't give this up!! I still believe in my theory.

In fact I am so stubborn I may do a second survey along the lines of... what do you guys think?

Q1 my leading eye is the same as the way I bat (i.e. right eye, RHB) and I bat in the top 5 for my team
Q2 my leading eye is the same as the way I bat (i.e. right eye, RHB) and I bat below the top 5 for my team
Q3 my leading eye is different to the way I bat (i.e. left eye, RHB) and I bat in the top 5 for my team
Q4 my leading eye is different the way I bat (i.e. left eye, RHB) and I bat below the top 5 for my team
Yes, but some people bat below top five because they bowl and not because they can't... If you aren't playing league cricket, this happens quite a bit...
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Post by: Opener on March 04, 2011, 01:20:45 PM
You can also ask them all to apply one method. The method which uses a finger to cover the eye gives a different result based on the hand you use. If you don't understand what you are doing it could easily elicit an incorrect result.
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Post by: Buzz on March 04, 2011, 01:22:43 PM
Arggg curse the village cricket mentality that aspires to give everyone a game, that may make cricket a better team sport, but is no use for my survey !!! - plus I can't put "aspires" to bat in the top 5 or "consider themselves a top five batsman" as all number 11's consider themselves a number 5 at heart.

Humm, perhaps I should put and have averaged over 30 during the last few seasons? Any better suggestions?

What I am trying to prove is that most batsman have the outside eye as their leading eye and that should be over off stump so they are able to judge the line of the ball better and it helps batsman keep their eye's level.

Now it may be that having you leading eye over the middle stump and your outside eye over the off stump has the same effect... not sure why I even started this now!!!
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Post by: Canners on March 04, 2011, 01:32:59 PM
im no longer a batsman as i didnt average over 30 last season :(
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Post by: Buzz on March 04, 2011, 01:50:33 PM
im no longer a batsman as i didnt average over 30 last season :(

50p says your average this season will be double that of last season.
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Post by: Canners on March 04, 2011, 01:58:30 PM
got yourself a bet......

its a win win for me :)
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Post by: Bez013 on March 04, 2011, 07:59:22 PM
Buzz - I think if you want to prove anything then you may need to start examining strong scoring areas for people with RHB/Right Eye Dominant or LHB/Left Eye Dominant as opposed to people who are RHB/Left Eye Dominant or LHB/Right Eye Dominant.

I am RHB/Left Eye Dominant I do bat in the top 5 and I averaged over 30 in T20 and nearly 40 in 40/50 over cricket last summer.  I much prefer if bowlers aim for the stumps which would be under my dominant eye and I struggle if they bowl outside off which would be under my weaker eye unless I were to shuffle rght across. 

I reckon I score 90% of my runs in an arc between Extra Cover and Fine Leg and I can't really play the cut shot right handed....
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Post by: Buzz on March 04, 2011, 09:50:28 PM
Except I score my runs in the same area and I am RHB and right eye dominant.

The numbers suggest my theory is disproved (I still don't agree, but I am stubborn). I am going to have to come up with a new theory. But it has been an interesting survey, even if it is a little small.

Thanks for all your help - actually I have learned a lot from this... so please keep voting in the survey and adding your comments
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Post by: Opener on March 04, 2011, 09:59:20 PM
I may be wrong but should this dominant eye theory not tell you which lines would be easier to pick for you as opposed to which areas do you hit the ball? You could hit the ball coming in to off stump through the covers as well as the ball going across you.
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Post by: Buzz on March 04, 2011, 10:01:12 PM
Yes I can play the cut, pretty well, no Robin Smith though...humm, maybe my theory isn't a disaster afterall.

The theory is really more that having your outside eye as your leading eye makes it easier to keep your eyes level - actually there is a bit more to it than that, but it doesn't appear to hold true.

Might be interesting to push the scoring areas comments though.
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Post by: Talisman on March 04, 2011, 10:10:46 PM
Further to the eye theory, I take all the restart ball at Rugby and always take the high ball over my left shoulder whilst turning my right side into the oncoming players, would this subscribe to your theory as I'm right handed so the left hand takes the majority of the catch. I think it may be that I carry with the left in open play and hand off with the right?
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Post by: FattusCattus on March 04, 2011, 10:12:58 PM
Yes I can play the cut, pretty well,

Oh you can play the cut shot alright!

Need to get you on a boggy Chertsey greentop to cut off your scoring options!
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Post by: tim2000s on March 04, 2011, 10:20:24 PM
Oh you can play the cut shot alright!

Need to get you on a boggy Chertsey greentop to cut off your scoring options!
My cut shot is pretty terrible but I can drive from mid-wicket/mid-on to cover point, and enjoy pulling. If cutting, tend to do it late and fine as that way I manage to get bat on it.  I'm rhre.
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Post by: FattusCattus on March 04, 2011, 10:25:58 PM
Buzz hangs on the back foot, waiting to slap away dribbly medium-pacers and slow left-armers.

Mind you, he has the groundsman in his pocket!
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Post by: tim2000s on March 04, 2011, 10:27:19 PM
Buzz hangs on the back foot, waiting to slap away dribbly medium-pacers and slow left-armers.

Mind you, he has the groundsman in his pocket!
So he likes inswinging yorkers then?
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Post by: FattusCattus on March 04, 2011, 10:29:49 PM
Don't know - we could only manage long-hops at him! He quite likes those!
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Post by: pacman75cricket on March 04, 2011, 10:31:05 PM
Don't underestimate the groundsman  ;)
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Post by: tim2000s on March 04, 2011, 10:36:32 PM
Don't know - we could only manage long-hops at him! He quite likes those!
Don't we all?
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Post by: Bez013 on March 05, 2011, 09:27:15 AM
I may be wrong but should this dominant eye theory not tell you which lines would be easier to pick for you as opposed to which areas do you hit the ball? You could hit the ball coming in to off stump through the covers as well as the ball going across you.

The line theory is a good point, different players will play the same delivery in different areas, but to prove that we are going to need some hawkeye/pitchmap backed stats!  If I was in London I would suggest spending hours in the indoor school at Lords with the Hawkeye system if they still have it....obviously in the name of research.
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Post by: Buzz on March 05, 2011, 10:15:11 AM
Humm I feel slightly abused here!! I have a groundsman who I almost certainly owe a lot of beer to. In the Nets I sit on the back foot, especially when they are bouncy, in the middle I tend to sit on the front foot a whole lot more.

I am re-thinking the theory and will explain where it came from once I have thought of a new plan!!
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Post by: Talisman on March 05, 2011, 10:22:06 AM
I tend not to move my feet indoors and when I play outside I move them less, I think I may have a leading stomach.....
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Post by: steyn92 on March 13, 2012, 03:41:26 PM
RHB, neither eye is dominant
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Post by: Stewie-Kidd on March 13, 2012, 03:52:13 PM
rhb left eye dominant.

I like this test, always thought i was right eye dominant, A real eye opener! (or closer depending on which way you look at it)
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Post by: charlie15 on March 14, 2012, 10:36:36 AM
RHB Left Eye
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Post by: tushar sehgal on March 14, 2012, 12:38:25 PM
both are equally weak or stong ;) can't figure it out