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Title: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: Sameer on May 23, 2008, 09:21:04 AM
simple and frequent question BUTTTTTTTT

how does one concentrate and what goes through ur head when u go out to bat?

Wot do u say? play like Geoffrey Boycott, i'm a wall.. think test cricket (eventhough its 40overs ;-))

OR is it more like, defend defend.. and play ONLY the bad balls? or shots u like? etc

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I find i lose concentration, when batting if i defend 3-4 balls or dont score a run off 3-4 balls.. ie. play a silly shot and end up back in the pavillion.

I played 2 games so far... one game reached 39.. but we still lost... and 2nd game got 9 but we won!

Both times i batted 5th position.. but was releaxed in first game cuz we batted first.. and pressured in 2nd. This game we was batting 2nd so pressured to get the runs, and lofted an edge to mid off after only facing 5-6 balls

ALL the time i was saying, play ground shots, play ground shots  :-[
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: Johnny on May 23, 2008, 12:15:44 PM
Studies have shown that concentration is linked to physical fitness. How fit are you? Do play other sports apart from cricket? Do you work out or go to a gym?

I think you need to change your approach and be more patient. If I don't score for a few balls, or even overs, it doesn't bother me if I'm playing the right shots and playing the ball on merit.

The longer you spend at the crease the easier you'll start to find it to middle the ball and hit the gaps anyway.
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: Danny on May 23, 2008, 12:49:51 PM
I take the Geoff Boycott aproach and just play the game one over at a time do not look in the long term take each over as it comes. This can also be applied to many things in life.
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: Sameer on May 23, 2008, 02:12:44 PM
But DAN, dont u worry that u r using up deliveries? or maybe leaving ur team short of runs?

thats also my problem
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: Johnny on May 23, 2008, 02:17:15 PM
Sameer, to an extent it's about taking calculated risks - number of runs on the board versus number of wickets in the hutch. If you're not scoring quickly enough, then maybe it's a case of hit out or get out, but that depends what batting is behind you. BY occupying the crease you get your eye in, and you may score slowly at first, but it makes it easier to score quicker later in your innings
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: Danny on May 23, 2008, 02:22:36 PM
It is a point Sameer but without using up deliveries you not going to get yourself in enough and may find yourself throwing your wicket away. But I suppose it varies from person to person.
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: MD14 on May 23, 2008, 04:02:28 PM
To be honest, chances are that if you're required to bat for an extended period of time, no-one will complain about you taking a few overs to get used to conditions or a bit of a dry spell in the middle of your innings as they need you to do the job, however you go about it
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: sammyboy on May 23, 2008, 06:33:29 PM
I find that I can easily bat for long perids of time but often bat for a long time and do not score many runs and then start to worry that I am wasting time and am unsure what to do. I then usually get out. any hints??
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: jandgcricket on May 23, 2008, 06:34:57 PM
Don't listen to people on the side line, bat as you think you should in the situation.  This was a good lesson I learnt early doors.
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: Original on May 23, 2008, 07:31:03 PM
I always try and be positive, but keeping it along the ground. But i always think the longer i am in the easier run scoring will be. 8)
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: stevie on May 23, 2008, 07:40:02 PM
Don't listen to people on the side line, bat as you think you should in the situation.  This was a good lesson I learnt early doors.

Exactly what i try and do.
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: Sambo on May 25, 2008, 06:43:43 AM
mate, just take it one ball at a time. don't worry about anything else. 40 overs is 240 balls if there are not any noballs or wides. reassure yourself every ball. think positive, play positive. sure be annoyed at yourself if you play or miss badly. but dont let that stop you. seeing you bat at 5, ask your coach to see whether maybe you could open for more time. or ask him coz he knows your game.
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: Howzat on May 25, 2008, 08:06:42 AM
I count my runs in my head and that helps me concentrate
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: Richie on May 25, 2008, 08:41:10 AM
I find that unlucky leo!!  I just take no notice of anything else, its just me and the ball, and that's all I'm worried about.
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: AlexBrown on July 03, 2008, 10:27:19 PM
Block the (No Swearing Please) out of it for a few overs. Start playing your shots to the bad ball, block every straight ball.
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: sultanofswing on January 13, 2009, 03:10:56 PM
the only think about is my stance and concentrate on that, stops me thinking to much and trying to pre-meditate shots
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: deanzy1 on January 13, 2009, 05:50:26 PM
dont have any superstions when you first go into bat like being out for a duck try to relax and wait for the bad ball ....remember at the start of your innings i.e first over you are not likely going to able to have your eye in so  just nip a couple of singles then when you feel confident have a go at different shots ....
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: bucko2007 on January 13, 2009, 06:45:34 PM
The only thing I think about is "watch the ball"... just keep saying that to yourself... You'll be surprised how much u don't fixate on the ball unless u tell urself to
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: sultanofswing on January 13, 2009, 06:47:19 PM
 
dont have any superstions when you first go into bat like being out for a duck try to relax and wait for the bad ball ....remember at the start of your innings i.e first over you are not likely going to able to have your eye in so  just nip a couple of singles then when you feel confident have a go at different shots ....

i try to play whichever shot comes naturally, if i can score on ball 1 then i will!
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: Chrissy on January 13, 2009, 07:59:44 PM
Agree with you there mate!
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: deanzy1 on January 13, 2009, 08:43:06 PM
in ot saying you shouldnt score form ball one im just saying u are allowed time to get your eye in ..... if you r confident enough then you mite aswell
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: Chrissy on January 13, 2009, 08:55:46 PM
Well me personally, i like to get off the mark as soon as i can and then if the ball is there to be hit then hit it thats what i always have in my head but if its a good ball on off stump good length then play it as well as you can. Even try and angle the bat to work the singles to keep the scoring rate ticking over nicely.
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: E-Unit on January 14, 2009, 10:51:29 AM
Dont go out to bat thinking about not getting out, face it , your going to get out and most of the time your job is to score runs so do that. Switch off when the ball isnt alive therfore you dont mentaly wear urself out..
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: eaowbear on January 14, 2009, 11:46:10 AM
I try thinking in 'tens' (get to 10, then think of the next 10 runs to 20 etc...) and find that helps me concentrate and not get too far ahead of myself
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: mdl_1979 on January 14, 2009, 11:52:47 AM
Some days I feel great when I go out to bat and score quickly, boundaries flying everywhere.  These days I might make a flashy 40 or a flamboyant 70. 

However the commonality of almost every ton I've scored is that I've had to be patient at the start of the innings.  Either the opening bowlers have bowled good spells, or I've felt out of nick and looked to concentrate and play solid shots.

That period of consolidation at the start of a innings places me mentally in a much more secure place than the times when I feel like no-one can bowl to me, and I am less likely to make a mistake.  The times when I am batting at my most fluent are also the times when I'm most likely to get over-confident and get myself out.

Don't know if any of that helps, but that's what I've found personally.
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: Tikolo on January 14, 2009, 12:19:33 PM
Different people have different methods of trying to get their eye in or stay settled. Just do what you feel is right, try it out in the nets. Some block, some go from the word go. Just trust your instincts and you'll be fine
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: christianpurchase99 on March 08, 2009, 01:42:47 PM
man all i say to myself is
"watch the ball like a hawk"
you could see a difference
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: Aswani Cricket on March 08, 2009, 03:06:37 PM
What did Gavaskar used to say?  "Give the first hour to the bowler ... and the next 5 are yours".  Obviously most of us don't play that long in a day, but there's a wise message there.
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: ianbuchanan on March 08, 2009, 04:09:28 PM
give the first 10 overs to the bowler and the next 30 are yours??
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: Arthur on March 08, 2009, 05:21:40 PM
If you thinking about getting out, you will. Just play every ball, and don't get agitated if you're not smashing it everywhere.
Think of it this way; say you face half the balls in an innings, and get an average of one a ball, it may take time but you're on 120 at the end, and you haven't taken any risks whatsoever. That is also assuming there are no freebies. Get a few of those and you're near to 150, without having to bat quickly at all, and if wickets are falling around you but getting as many runs, if not more then you're on 300 after 40
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: Chrissy on March 08, 2009, 07:53:39 PM
mdl_1979 that is some top notch advice matee !!
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: ianbuchanan on March 08, 2009, 08:02:03 PM
my advice is to get your eye in in the first few overs, try and get bat on ball as often as possible. then after even just a few minute of this, the bowler will end up bowling fuller and wider balls at you, that you can attack. after scoring runs off these deliveries your confidence should go up, therefore scoring more and more runs. i applied this last year over 16 innings and averaged 68! notched up 8 half centuries!
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: yvk3103 on March 08, 2009, 09:57:39 PM
staying positive and playing to the situation.

I just say to myself "the bowler is as good as I want him to be".
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: generalcustard on April 02, 2009, 06:43:55 AM
In reality batting for a long time involves mental toughness, crickets 90-95 percent mental, i've seen plenty of awsome players go out and swing away, get a quick fifty but more the normally they'll get themselves out, who hasnt thrown there wicket away? as i believe some one said before, you get out eventually, play every ball on its merits, ball by ball, dont worry to much about the total just keep the run rate under 8 an over with wickets in hand an your all sweet.
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: Chris1976 on April 02, 2009, 08:41:53 AM
I think eveyone has given some good advice here!  I personally try to pace my innings but the key factor is to watch the ball and if someone serves you up something loose be relaxed and put it away.  As an opening bat I love facing the first ball because more often than not its either a half volley or long-hop.... obviously their are the times its a jaffer too but hey thats cricket for you :)
Title: Re: how to bat for long periods?
Post by: Sambo on April 02, 2009, 09:24:15 AM
Also, let the mind piss off when your not facing the ball.