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General Cricket => Your Cricket => Topic started by: tbarnfield99 on March 14, 2011, 10:50:13 AM
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Please have a quick look at this short video of me batting and help me out!
http://www.pitchero.com/clubs/carnforthcricketclub/videos/tom-barnfield-13320.html
Can tell that my weight is poor. Falling over at the crease. Finding it harder to play on the legside. Playing shots on the legside in the air because of my head falling to one side. Any tips and training regimes.
Cheers
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some good shots in there dont know anything about technique but when the ball is full and outside offstump u are trying to smash it through mid on why is that..
just smash it mid off or through the covers
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Buzz will be here in due course to advise I'm sure,
I'm at work so can't look at the video
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Yeah I notice I did that twice, but to the same bowler. Think it's just because it was him bowling and I wanted to smash it really. No other reason. Wouldn't try that in a game.
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My initial observation watching the video is that although you make a tiny trigger movement with your front foot at around the time the ball is released, you actually hardly move your front foot at all with anything on the leg stump to legside and tend to stay in exactly the same place. If it's short you can step across with the back foot, and whne the ball is on the right line, you flick it pretty well, but when it is pitched on a reasonable length, you find yourself with your pad in the way.
When the ball is pitched well outside the off stump, your eyes light up, you step right across and then try too hard to hoof it, missing in most cases.
Your bat comes down in an arc from about 3rd slip to balls pitched on all lines, including from off so you are limiting the amount of time in which you are in line with the ball quite dramatically with that. It also means you play around your pad, as mentioned earlier, on the leg side.
I'd pass over to the coaches to help, but on a lot of what we can see in the video, you stay back and try and play late. The balls don't seem to be moving that much so you might want to consider coming forward more to the well pitched balls. You might find that you drive them better than glancing them as, when coming forward you are more likely to be in line.
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Can tell that my weight is poor. Falling over at the crease. Finding it harder to play on the legside. Playing shots on the legside in the air because of my head falling to one side. Any tips and training regimes.
I think your assessment here is being overly harsh about your alledged shortcomings.
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Overall you look quite a good player.
However, you are not remaining still at the crease and your back lift is very wrong.
Bring your hands close to your body this will improve the arc of your swing and your back lift should be over off stump and no more.
Lead with your head to the ball as your feet will follow and stop waving your bat around when waiting for the ball as this does not allow your eyes to remain level.
Let the ball come to you and do not move until the ball leaves the bowlers hand
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i agree with the above comments (the positive ones)
i think your set up looks decent, just remember you dont have to smash the cover off of every single ball
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You just seem to be trying to work everything to leg which you are very strong on. i agree with the previous comments about not moving you front foot which stops you from being able to play the drive well. but overall pretty good.
just remember to keep your head still and play the line of the ball :D
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You look to be a very good striker of the ball!
Some nice shots!
If your falling away, just try to stand up straighter at the crease, as its your head that goes first! So standing straighter will balance your weight!
Apart from that, Impressive :D
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Look good.
2 points - First is that you have quite a closed bat face, if you look at the pose you hold after some of your drives, you'll notice that there's quite a lot of bottom hand there
Secondly, you do fall a little bit to the offside as the bowler is about to bowl but nothing drastic, you could try bringing your head over your front shoulder a bit more in your stance, I notice you do this to the spinners and it looks to work well for you.
As for the point tim made about your footwork, I'd probably disagree, moving your feet is what makes you play round your front pad on those balls pitching on leg, let the ball come to you.
From that video it looks as if you're worrying about an issue that isn't really present, the closed bat face looks to be more of an issue than falling over.
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If im being honest, i don't think you have a closed bat problem at all, your bringing your bat over off stick most of the time, and its coming down straight!
Its a good backswing in my opinion!
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If im being honest, i don't think you have a closed bat problem at all, your bringing your bat over off stick most of the time, and its coming down straight!
Its a good backswing in my opinion!
Ok. I won't start a debate about someone else's technique on the basis of a 60 second video, but you can usually tell how open or closed your bat face is by the way you hit full tosses, barnfield hit one right at the end and his bat face was closed.
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Neither do i, but the full toss, at the end was struck sweetly, and yes maybe a bit legside, but also quite straight, probably going over mid-on or just to the side. If i got a full toss on leg/middle, that is where i would aim to hit it. It is a straight bat shot.
He looks to be a wristy player, which is not a bad thing, i just can't see your point about a closed face.
But thats just my opinion..
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Didn't see anything hugely wrong with the video, you look to hit the ball too hard which causes you to miss time or not connect at times. Some people like me would close your stance a bit which should help you stay side on as long as possible as you do open up too quick at times however very small things to be fair.
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forget what you know and introduce this new process.
1) Eyes Level, chin should be in contact with lead shoulder
2) first movement, lean with your head towards the ball
3) second movement, your foot should follow your head in to line
4) play the shot
see if you can get a good hours worth of throw downs to repeat this process
lead with the head, then the foot, then the shot
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Thanks for all the help, and for Buzz for the PM. Will be netting again tonight, and hopefully upload a new video to see if I have actually learnt anything! Haven't had time this week to practice anything due to all the new kit arriving at last.
I'll post again in here when the video is up. Cheers again!
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Who do you play for?
You look pretty good. I could only pick up on a couple of things. As stated by some of the other guys, it looks like you are trying it clobber the ball to the leg side on a few occasions when you could have hit them to the off side. When you tried to hit the ball to hard you also lost your balance and your base looked a bit weak. Other than those small things you looked good. I am not too sure if this applies for you but I have always been told not to be too wristy with balls on my leg stump, just push them through midwicket or mid off, but that could be some advice just for me.
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Some nice shots to the quicker/medium pacers , looking a this video i would say you like playing the seamers instead of spin bowling ??
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Tom, a few pointers:
1. set up- too open. both feet should point straight down the wkt not at mid on.
2. trigger movement. elliminate it! I had a lev 3 coach get me far stiller by eliminating my back and across. The argument is the bowling is not fast enough to need it, and what does it achieve?
3. here's a test re- balance- get a bowler to not release the ball and check how still you remain. Head should remain over off stump.
Regards
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Damn all these coaches who have taken lots of exams and then say don't do the trendy trigger movement. What do they know anyway!!! ;)
Tom, a few pointers:
1. set up- too open. both feet should point straight down the wkt not at mid on.
2. trigger movement. elliminate it! I had a lev 3 coach get me far stiller by eliminating my back and across. The argument is the bowling is not fast enough to need it, and what does it achieve?
3. here's a test re- balance- get a bowler to not release the ball and check how still you remain. Head should remain over off stump.
Regards
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many thanks to the mainly helpful comments. i will try something a little different at nets this thursday and make sure there is a camera there and will post it back up on here for you all to see.
hopefully we will see some form of improvement!
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Try to get your head coming towards the bowler if you can that should help your balance meaning you will have more control of those legside whips which you are clearly fond of!
As has also been mentioned you have a very closed bat face maybe look to open up your bottom hand slightly on the bat handle, just slightly this should present more of the bat fact straight back down the ground. Try having throw downs where you hit the ball dead straight - aim for the stumps at the far end, if you can hit the ball that straight from a straight ball then your grip is fine, have a play around and see what works
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Damn all these coaches who have taken lots of exams and then say don't do the trendy trigger movement. What do they know anyway!!! ;)
I know a few coaches who at club level hate triggers, especially for younger players as it moves the head, however at high club level getting towards minor counties and professional cricket triggers work, they get the feet moving quicker, if you are comfortable using a trigger and can do it, my advice would be use it
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I know a few coaches who at club level hate triggers, especially for younger players as it moves the head, however at high club level getting towards minor counties and professional cricket triggers work, they get the feet moving quicker, if you are comfortable using a trigger and can do it, my advice would be use it
At the start of an innings, I try to use a trigger of moving my front foot forward slightly, to get my feet moving. Seems to keep my head in line too!
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Buzz always wondered but forgot to ask what level coach are ya?
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I haven't done any coaching qualifications at all. However I have been coaching cricket for most of 20 years to players of many different standards
I have also been on the receiving end of coaching from Lords, the Oval and several other county and former international players. You tend to pick up a bit when you have a beer or play golf with the odd former pro.
I don't have a pro bat though. :(