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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: uknsaunders on March 22, 2011, 10:19:26 PM

Title: Academy Bats
Post by: uknsaunders on March 22, 2011, 10:19:26 PM
What is the actual size of an Academy bat. Is it a harrow length blade and full width or a full length blade and harrow width? Is it an SH or SSH handle. Does anyone have a clue?
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: Perkins17 on March 22, 2011, 10:29:05 PM
was on the gm site that would be a start
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: uknsaunders on March 22, 2011, 10:30:59 PM
THE ACADEMY PROGRAMME

The first new bat size in 100 years. An important innovation from the
GM youth development and coaching scheme.

Lightness with power. Fills the void for junior batsmen who are too tall
for Harrow but are not ready for a Full Size bat.

Too often junior players use bats that are a size too big for them, particularly
when stepping from Harrow to Full Size.

Bats that are too heavy force the player to alter his grip trying to
lift the bat when playing a shot, bringing the bat down across the line
of the ball.

Likewise bats that are too long prevent the bat being picked up correctly
as the top of the handle gets in the way.

All top coaches agree that choosing the correct size bat is vital for
proper technical development.


The ACADEMY bat size enables a junior batsman to obtain power without
having to graduate too soon to a Full Size bat.

Special willow selection and custom blade and handle specifications produce
a light, compact bat which retains the driving power of a full size bat,
has an excellent pick-up and allows the aspiring player to concentrate
fully on developing batting technique. Gunn & Moore particularly recommend
Academy bats for players between about 5’6” and 5’9”.
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: uknsaunders on March 22, 2011, 10:31:27 PM
In a word...no
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: procricket on March 22, 2011, 10:32:52 PM
Peps i have found our perfect bat for the short (No Swearing Please)
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: Perkins17 on March 22, 2011, 10:33:29 PM
im sure there was a diagram of all bat sizes
im no help as im on my phone !
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: golders on March 22, 2011, 10:33:59 PM
doesnt actually say length of blade or handle...and apparantly I should be using an Academy bat!
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: uknsaunders on March 22, 2011, 10:35:45 PM
I think the GM Bat selector defaults to 5'9 for the height. A think a PM to Edward might be needed.
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: tim2000s on March 22, 2011, 10:53:03 PM
Peps i have found our perfect bat for the short (No Swearing Please)
You beat me to it Dave.
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: Perkins17 on March 24, 2011, 02:51:45 PM
(http://www.gm-cricket.com/upload/pages/imagery/Bat-Sizes.jpg)
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: uknsaunders on March 24, 2011, 02:52:54 PM
doesn't say how long or wide the blade is or the handle length.
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: ProWannabe88 on March 24, 2011, 03:09:24 PM
Hang on then. I'm just about 5,9 so in theory I should/could use an academy bat??
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: ProWannabe88 on March 24, 2011, 03:13:52 PM
And I thought they were full length but Harrow width?
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: uknsaunders on March 24, 2011, 03:35:48 PM
And I thought they were full length but Harrow width?

I thought I read that but it seems to contradict what the GM marketing blurb says. It implies a SH is to long and a harrow to small, so using eithers dimensions wouldn't make sense, would it?
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: ProWannabe88 on March 24, 2011, 03:49:43 PM
Now that's odd, it says on a lot of websites that academy size is full length blade with Harrow width as well. Can't see that being of any benefit to anyone really. Surely the handles just shorter or tere practically a shrt blade bat similar to the newb Uzi etc
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: tim2000s on March 24, 2011, 03:50:18 PM
I imagine they'll have around a SpiriT20 blade length, maybe 5mm off the blade width and a standard short handle?
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: Edward Lowy on March 29, 2011, 09:38:19 AM
Hi all

Apologies for the delay in replying. GM Academy bats are essentially :

Harrow width
Mens blade length
Super short handle

Light, maneouverable, ideal for developing players who have not yet developed substantial upper body strength. Light = quick to get bat to ball. Yes, the biggest bat in the world can hit the ball out of the ground, but only if you connect in the first place.

Kind regards

Edward
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: Edward Lowy on March 29, 2011, 09:41:44 AM
Ah ha! And the Good Dr Streaky advises me :

"...the bat selector should only generate an Academy - if you are Male and aged 16 or younger and the height criteria is met (5'6 >5' 9), If you are female - same criteria except the age..."

Edward
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: roco on March 29, 2011, 09:46:56 AM
Good old streaky
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: yvk3103 on March 29, 2011, 09:49:56 AM
Edward,

Are the Academy bats are available in 2.9/2.10 weights?
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: Edward Lowy on March 29, 2011, 11:21:10 AM
Edward,

Are the Academy bats are available in 2.9/2.10 weights?


That would be at the top end of the Academy weight range :

http://www.gm-cricket.com/pages/weight-comparison.aspx

Kind regards

Edward

Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: uknsaunders on March 29, 2011, 11:31:31 AM

Harrow width
Mens blade length
Super short handle


I would've thought a Harrow length/full width blade would of been the ideal stepping stone, especially if you are on the short side. I'm a little surprised.
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: Edward Lowy on March 29, 2011, 11:43:51 AM
I would've thought a Harrow length/full width blade would of been the ideal stepping stone, especially if you are on the short side. I'm a little surprised.

An Academy works out to be about 3/4" shorter than a Full Size configuration, and, grade for grade, about 6 oz lighter. It is a formula that finds favour with rational kids and a number of lady players.

Kind regards

Edward
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: Steny12 on March 29, 2011, 01:26:41 PM
i to dont understand why the blade would be thinner... id feel hard done by as when i was 14 15 16 i was playing 1st and 2nd team cricket and knowing that I am using a thinner bat than everyone else.. dont understand that tbh...
Obviously I know the weight change has to come from somewere but as others have said surely making the blade/handle shorter does this..? could you explain a bit more edward?
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: tim2000s on March 29, 2011, 01:28:14 PM
i to dont understand why the blade would be thinner... id feel hard done by as when i was 14 15 16 i was playing 1st and 2nd team cricket and knowing that I am using a thinner bat than everyone else.. dont understand that tbh...
Obviously I know the weight change has to come from somewere but as others have said surely making the blade/handle shorter does this..? could you explain a bit more edward?
But then how big were you at 15/16? I was 6ft and had a lighter weight SH Powerspot Tufcoat...
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: Steny12 on March 29, 2011, 01:36:46 PM
i was prob about 5'6 ish when i was 14 then upto about 5'9 when i was 16. :) I still dont get why anyone would have a thinner bat other than if u were playing like below under 13's. Do you see were im coming from tho Tim if your playing a decent standard at a younger age but happen to be on the smaller weaker side i wouldnt want to play at a disadvantage of a thinner blade. just my opinion though
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: Edward Lowy on March 29, 2011, 01:42:05 PM
i was prob about 5'6 ish when i was 14 then upto about 5'9 when i was 16. :) I still dont get why anyone would have a thinner bat other than if u were playing like below under 13's. Do you see were im coming from tho Tim if your playing a decent standard at a younger age but happen to be on the smaller weaker side i wouldnt want to play at a disadvantage of a thinner blade. just my opinion though


It isn't the "disadvantage of a thinner blade", it is the advantage of a lighter blade. At 5'9" we would recommend a Full Size bat.

http://www.gm-cricket.com/pages/bat-sizes.aspx

Kind regards

Edward
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: tim2000s on March 29, 2011, 01:45:11 PM
It isn't the "disadvantage of a thinner blade", it is the advantage of a lighter blade. At 5'9" we would recommend a Full Size bat.

[url]http://www.gm-cricket.com/pages/bat-sizes.aspx[/url]

Kind regards

Edward

To be fair Steny, we currently use Jokers as adults, which have a thinner blade and Mongeese, TTs, Spirit20s which have a shorter blade, and people generally don't complain.

I'd tend to agree that a lighter blade that you get in the correct position more regularly with is better than a wider blade that is heavier, and therefore you don't.
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: Steny12 on March 29, 2011, 01:51:17 PM
i suppose my point is lost on most haha. maybe my mind is just fickle but it would play on my mind if i was using a thinner bat than a SH :P
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: Steny12 on March 29, 2011, 01:53:00 PM
not really talking shorter blades as that doesnt come into affect that much... were as a thinner blade you are reducing the surface area quite alot ... maybe im just totally wrong on this whole thing haha i suppose what im trying to say is id rather have the weight taken off else were than have a thinner blade.
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: Tumo on March 29, 2011, 02:46:58 PM
not really talking shorter blades as that doesnt come into affect that much... were as a thinner blade you are reducing the surface area quite alot ... maybe im just totally wrong on this whole thing haha i suppose what im trying to say is id rather have the weight taken off else were than have a thinner blade.
If anything, you're going to (theoretically) edge fewer deliveries behind.
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: tim2000s on March 29, 2011, 02:59:45 PM
i suppose my point is lost on most haha. maybe my mind is just fickle but it would play on my mind if i was using a thinner bat than a SH :P
Did you have this qualm when you were using a Harrow?
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: Steny12 on March 29, 2011, 02:59:50 PM
ye but u can also look from the point of ones that wud normally fly down to third man are goin to be a thin nick ... glass half full or half empty depends how u look at it :)
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: Steny12 on March 29, 2011, 03:00:45 PM
no because i used a harrow when i was 12/13 when i was playing junior cricket when all otheres had the same except for u big lads that were 6ft at 12 years old ... and some 3rd 4th team before i was bothered :P
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: tim2000s on March 29, 2011, 03:04:33 PM
i to dont understand why the blade would be thinner... id feel hard done by as when i was 14 15 16 i was playing 1st and 2nd team cricket and knowing that I am using a thinner bat than everyone else.. dont understand that tbh...
Obviously I know the weight change has to come from somewere but as others have said surely making the blade/handle shorter does this..? could you explain a bit more edward?
By having a full length blade you should be playing mostly straight bat, and learning to bat properly, even at this age. In that sense, having a thinner blade won't hinder you.

Being concerned that your bat doesn't have the girth of others' bats seems like a completely different problem...
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: Steny12 on March 29, 2011, 03:10:14 PM
i think you have hit the nail on the head  :(  :D.... im not saying it hinders you im just saying though you have the advantage of it being a bit lighter, you also have the disadvantage of it being a smaller area to hit the ball with its probably me just being pedantic but i jsut see it as simple science. We will just have to agree to disagree  ;)
Title: Re: Academy Bats
Post by: Buzz on March 29, 2011, 03:21:52 PM
I think we should all learn to play with bats made by this guy

http://sports.yahoo.com/top/photo?slug=84dbc241406eb439ec06cc983efbb4ed-getty-cricket-wc2011-sri-bats-feature#photoViewer=urn%3Anewsml%3Asports.yahoo%2Cgetty%3A20050301%3Atop%2Cphoto%2C84dbc241406eb439ec06cc983efbb4ed-getty-cricket-wc2011-sri-bats-feature%3A1

http://sports.yahoo.com/top/photo?slug=331250b11b569bea23d454bf54f1bf7e-getty-cricket-wc2011-sri-bats-feature

the Sri Lankans seem to know how to bat...