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General Cricket => Your Cricket => Umpires => Topic started by: sgcricket on March 30, 2011, 05:59:35 AM
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It is the last ball of the match with 2 runs to win. The bowler balls, batsman gets an inside edge. Bowler appeals and umpire gives it LBW.
the batsman can review it. but it won't change the outcome of the match. the run(s) that they cud have scored of the ball are not counted. as far as my understanding is, the ball becomes dead once the umpire has given it out. what do you guys think?
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It is the last ball of the match with 2 runs to win. The bowler balls, batsman gets an inside edge. Bowler appeals and umpire gives it LBW.
the batsman can review it. but it won't change the outcome of the match. the run(s) that they cud have scored of the ball are not counted. as far as my understanding is, the ball becomes dead once the umpire has given it out. what do you guys think?
I'm a bit confused as to what you are asking. If the batsman DRS's it, and the original decision is reversed, the batsman is not out, however as you say, no runs and no extra ball. As the batsman, you might want the not out as you are on 150* and the not out makes your average much better, and as the batting team you may not want to lose by 10 wickets.... Slightly odd position though!
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what i am saying is...even if the ball has gone to a gap and you can easily run the 2 runs needed for victory, you end up losing the game. surely thats not fair. imagine if it ends up happening in the finals of the world cup.
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Do they have any discretion within the rules to reverse a decision and then call a dead ball to allow another ball to be bowled??
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not as far as i am aware.
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Send the question to TMS today - it is a really good one!!
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not sure what TMS is but pls feel free to do so.
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not sure what TMS is but pls feel free to do so.
TMS stands for Test Match Special which is the name of the BBC's cricket coverage, both the over by over and the actual radio commentary. You can email them at (i think) tms@bbc.co.uk
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/tms/
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thanks
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what i am saying is...even if the ball has gone to a gap and you can easily run the 2 runs needed for victory, you end up losing the game. surely thats not fair. imagine if it ends up happening in the finals of the world cup.
It's an interesting question, but isn't really borne out by the reality of the ball's path. For an inside edge to be mistaken for an LBW it must be very fine and secondly, the ball has to have hit the pads in line, which means that the rebound is extremely unlikely to be to a gap where you are going to be able to run 2. How many true LBWs do you see where the ball rebounds to a space where 2 leg byes could've been run?
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It's an interesting question, but isn't really borne out by the reality of the ball's path. For an inside edge to be mistaken for an LBW it must be very fine and secondly, the ball has to have hit the pads in line, which means that the rebound is extremely unlikely to be to a gap where you are going to be able to run 2. How many true LBWs do you see where the ball rebounds to a space where 2 leg byes could've been run?
But think about it, they could be appealing for it solely because they have a review left, I could see it happening...
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but if the batsmen ran one and then there were overthrows...
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If the umpire gives a player out then they normally stop running
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It could happen, if the batsman makes a massive movement over to the off side goes to tuck it off his legs gets tiny inside edge then fly's down to fine leg, I've seen it happen!
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It is the last ball of the match with 2 runs to win. The bowler balls, batsman gets an inside edge. Bowler appeals and umpire gives it LBW. The batsman can review it. but it won't change the outcome of the match. the run(s) that they cud have scored of the ball are not counted. as far as my understanding is, the ball becomes dead once the umpire has given it out. what do you guys think?
I'm with tim200s...taking your scenario as written
* You are correct, the ball is Dead once the Umpire gives the batsman Out, so no runs can be scored.
Law 23 (Dead ball)
1. Ball is dead
(a) The ball becomes dead when
(iii) a batsman is dismissed. The ball will be deemed to be dead from the instant of the incident causing the dismissal.
* If the batsman chooses to review and the review decides in the batsman's favour because of the inside edge, the batsman is Not Out.
* If the ball was a fair delivery in the first place, i.e. not a no ball, then the ball counts and as it was the last ball of the match, the Fielding side have won.
It could happen, if the batsman makes a massive movement over to the off side goes to tuck it off his legs gets tiny inside edge then fly's down to fine leg, I've seen it happen!
* Irrelevant....in the scenario described, the ball is Dead once the Umpire has given the batsman Out. They can run up and down the wicket all night (but not on the protected area ;) ), none of the runs will count!