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Equipment => Bats => Custom Made => Topic started by: Danny on May 25, 2008, 09:58:08 AM

Title: Tools?
Post by: Danny on May 25, 2008, 09:58:08 AM
HiGuys,

Im considering making a few custom bats just for a little project over the summer. I just need to know what tools I will need and the best places to buy them. Cheers Guys.
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: e4sby on May 25, 2008, 10:15:25 AM
I'll quicky do my best here.

This is the minimum you can get away with.

A vice
Drawknife
Spokeshave/travisher depending on what profile you fancy doing
smoothing plane
rasp file for shaping the handle
A power sander

It can be quite an expensive hobby, i thought that when i started, i'll have to sell 50 bats before i cover all costs!

Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: Danny on May 25, 2008, 10:27:49 AM
Right cheers mate. Where did you buy your tools from and also where is the best place to buy part made clefts (all grades inc kasmir) just with handles partly in.
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: Changy on May 25, 2008, 11:09:38 AM
I'll quicky do my best here.

This is the minimum you can get away with.

A vice
Drawknife
Spokeshave/travisher depending on what profile you fancy doing
smoothing plane
rasp file for shaping the handle
A power sander

It can be quite an expensive hobby, i thought that when i started, i'll have to sell 50 bats before i cover all costs!



Ok I dont make bats but I think you can get:

Vice- Axminster
Drawknife- Axminster
Spokeshaves- Axminster
Travisher- Old tools
Smoothing plane- Axminster depending on type
Rasp- Axminster
Sander- B'n'Q
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: Richie on May 25, 2008, 01:56:34 PM
It does look like an expensive hobby!!
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: e4sby on May 25, 2008, 02:00:30 PM
Right cheers mate. Where did you buy your tools from and also where is the best place to buy part made clefts (all grades inc kasmir) just with handles partly in.

I have a part made kashmir cleft but the best place to buy clefts from is probably Fusion.
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: Changy on May 25, 2008, 02:03:49 PM
From Fusion:

Level 1 -    Superbest £70.98
                Grade 1 £65.44
 
Level 2 -    Superbest £77.98
                Grade 1 £72.44
 
Level 3 -    Superbest £87.98
                Grade 1 - £82.44

Dont know the prices but I think you can get kashmir clefts from CJI cricket
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: Danny on May 25, 2008, 02:40:53 PM
Cheers Changy, can you please explain to me that levels cheers mate!
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: e4sby on May 25, 2008, 02:44:07 PM
Cheers Changy, can you please explain to me that levels cheers mate!

Level 1 - The cleft will be handled and pressed

Level 2 - The cleft will be handled and pressed with the shoulders and toe cut in

Level 3 - The cleft will be handled and pressed with the shoulders and toe cut in with initial shaping of the toe and shoulders of the bat.

Don't quote me on that but think thats about right.  Tom will probably be able to confirm this
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: Tom on May 25, 2008, 02:45:44 PM
That sounds about right, if it's your first DIY bat I think it's best to go for the Level 3 option
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: Changy on May 25, 2008, 02:49:39 PM
Thats the exact same thing it said in the email they sent with the prices! :P
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: e4sby on May 25, 2008, 02:52:10 PM
I'd definitely go for a level 2 or 3, depends on how confident and capable you are.
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: hell4leather cricket on May 26, 2008, 10:01:33 AM
hi guys ,
i can supply part-mades if any one is interested? i find that the best place to get tools from are boot fairs, markets ebay etc .the older tools like drawknifes, planes etc are made from better steel, and tend to sharpen up better ... i mainly use a old stanleys(bailey) 4 1/2 down to a no 3. the modern handplanes have plastic handles and just dont feel the same.... i find ebay a great place to get your tools from. a decent  vice is a must aswell ,its worth spending  a bit more on decent tools ,the results will be better and will last you a lifetime   :)
 
regards
matt
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: SAF Bats on June 02, 2008, 09:05:50 AM
Danny would like to add...

- Good vice [Mech engineering] with cushioning for vice jaws
- A good solid work bench to work on
- Drawknife [8 inch blade - I use English style]
- Sandpaper various grades
- Travisher [No5 good all purpose one most say] or Convex spokeshave [e.g. Clifton]
- Sharpening stone/ files for the tools
- [Rasp] or Subform for handle
- Twine for handle
- Glue
- Pure Beeswax for buffing if you feel the urge...

Old tools are better as Matt says due to the steel make sure you have enough steel to sharpen though....

Geting a shoulder and toe bat means you elminate the need for a bandsaw / jig saw or even dare I say a sander....

Gary at Redback also has handled and pressed bats - shouldered toe'd etc

Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: BucketHandsGreg on January 16, 2009, 05:29:44 PM
Does anyone who or know the best place to buy clefts from, as i am quite interested in having a go...
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: Howzat on January 16, 2009, 06:08:33 PM
I got one from Tom. Chris Easby has one I believe.
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: gramw on January 16, 2009, 06:10:52 PM
pretty sure chirs isnt getting rid/selling it. I needed one a bit ago and he said he needed it so i got one from cji
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: Howzat on January 16, 2009, 06:27:47 PM
Oh - well CJI dont have any anymore as hes sent all his willow to india lol
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: e4sby on January 16, 2009, 06:34:25 PM
i may well sell mine.  its been stuck in the shed for the last few months gathering dust so if anyone wants to make an offer for it.  I might have a rough cleft i'll throw in for free to practise on
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: Tom on January 16, 2009, 06:39:51 PM
Oh - well CJI dont have any anymore as hes sent all his willow to india lol

They're Kashmir willow, why would CJI get them shipped over to the UK then ship them back without touching them?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Part-Made-Kashmir-Cleft-Good-DIY-Project_W0QQitemZ290241542057QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_SportingGoods_CricketBats_SM?hash=item290241542057&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Part-Made-Kashmir-Cleft-Good-DIY-Project_W0QQitemZ290241542057QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_SportingGoods_CricketBats_SM?hash=item290241542057&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301)|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: Talisman on January 16, 2009, 06:46:40 PM
I will sort some English part made low grade for anyone that needs one, will be a little while before ordering have a think if you want one. They will be pressed, shouldered and toed.
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: BucketHandsGreg on January 16, 2009, 06:50:22 PM
What sort of price would i be looking at if i wanted a grade 1-2?
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: Howzat on January 16, 2009, 06:51:13 PM
They're Kashmir willow, why would CJI get them shipped over to the UK then ship them back without touching them?

[url]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Part-Made-Kashmir-Cleft-Good-DIY-Project_W0QQitemZ290241542057QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_SportingGoods_CricketBats_SM?hash=item290241542057&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301[/url] ([url]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Part-Made-Kashmir-Cleft-Good-DIY-Project_W0QQitemZ290241542057QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_SportingGoods_CricketBats_SM?hash=item290241542057&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1301[/url])|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

Im only telling you what he said to me
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: Howzat on January 16, 2009, 06:51:41 PM
What sort of price would i be looking at if i wanted a grade 1-2?
Around £80
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: Talisman on January 16, 2009, 06:54:11 PM
You could not buy grade 1 easily and you would not want it anyway, start with a low grade as it could be a waste of money if you go wrong. Low grade would be £40 posted.
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: BucketHandsGreg on January 16, 2009, 07:38:04 PM
Chris- How much would you be willing to do the cleft for and could you email me some pictures of it or is it on the website?
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: Apple on March 30, 2009, 03:43:41 PM
How do u you do the stringging (u no the string on the handle?)
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: Howzat on March 30, 2009, 04:29:45 PM
You can do it manually if you have some patience
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: Apple on March 30, 2009, 05:22:14 PM
cheers leo, cos i hav loads of raw clefts, from the newbery factory there pros ones that got turned down, CHEERS
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: Beachcricket on March 30, 2009, 06:04:32 PM
Are they DIY clefts from Newbery like the ones from Fusion?
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: Beachcricket on March 30, 2009, 06:08:01 PM
You could not buy grade 1 easily and you would not want it anyway, start with a low grade as it could be a waste of money if you go wrong. Low grade would be £40 posted.
Do you have any pics you could send of these clefts, I'm looking for Grade 2 for some practice but obviously want them to have the potential to be a good bat if I do a good job?
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: Tom on March 30, 2009, 06:20:41 PM
BeachCricket, have you asked Fusion about spending a day with them? I was there for a few hours yday and learn masses everytime I go.
Title: Re: Tools?
Post by: Beachcricket on March 30, 2009, 07:15:58 PM
I had asked him to find me some clefts but he hasn't got back to me yet, probably too busy as he said business was picking up for the season. I'll probably give him another call tomorrow.

I just hate the idea of taking up his time as I'm only buying some clefts.