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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: Richard on June 21, 2011, 08:52:05 AM
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this man keep getting picked for the National side?
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/player/23460.html
...it would appear that there is hope for us all.
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I thought you meant Samit Patel!
I think we have most bases covered with those two. Patel is my role model and a great example of how the 1980's training regime has a place in the modern game.
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The thing with Patel is that he's actually a pretty decent cricketer, i just don't see that in Wright.
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The thing with Patel is that he's actually a pretty decent cricketer, i just don't see that in Wright.
Someone seems to think otherwise though!
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Alas, I am not on the selection panel.
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dissapointing were still using the "also rans" such as Bopara and Wright for the ODI's they seem to yoyo between the side and are always turend to when in doubt.
Why not throw in a younger player with the likes of Hildreth and Taylor scoring big runs for the Lions only to be overlooked.
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taylor would be my choice!
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James Taylor av 50 in Champ & 50 in 1 Day Cricket after 2-3 years who else has done that he wins games in ALL FORMS...Paul Nixon quotes!
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JT's time will come, you can't ignore class forever and you feel Wright is on his last chance...but we have been saying that for 2 years so who knows!
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commentators were ripping into wiright at the world cup. he's there as an all-rounder, but rarely bowls, and batting is not up to the mark to warrant a place in the side if he doesnt bowl. james taylor ftw!
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Couldnt agree more about Luke Wright, doesnt seem to have a defined role in the side so it makes it weird that he keeps getting picked
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It's tricky. Nos. 3-6 pick themselves, which preclude Taylor/Bopara/Hildreth/AN Other. Cook has to open and to fit five bowlers in (i.e. 7-11) the 'keeper will need to open. I'd like to move on from Anderson in the ODIs. Not keen on Patel, but it looked inevitable.
Edit: though I suppose Bell could open with Cook, freeing up space for the keeper to bat down the order.
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Bell is class, Him and Cook to open with Trott at 3 could result in us being not-that-many for 1 off 50 every game though.
I've also always been of the school of thought that you pick your best keeper (Foster) but we don't bat deep enough in ODI's to pick him...shame because he's our best pure One Day 'keeper since Russell. :/
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What about Kieswetter? He is young, a good wicket-keeper and a very good batsmen. He is most likely the best wicket-keeper batmen in the country and yet never gets his fair chance. And then bring in Dernbach instead of Anderson as he seems to struggle in the sorter form of the game.
My ideal top 5 would be:
Cook
Kieswetter
Trott
Pieterson
Bell
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you know Kieswetter is in the side, right?
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this will be the team for the first ODI i reckon
Cook
Kieswetter
Trott
KP
Bell
Morgan
Patel
Broad
Swann
Tremlett
Jimmy
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you know Kieswetter is in the side, right?
He is? I could of sworn Prior was still the One-day wicket keeper... Thinking about I'm not even sure if we want Trott and Cook in the side, they are too slow hitting for one day cricket...
Bell, Kieswetter, Pieterson, Morgan and then two other batsmen who are playing well at county level would be the best ODI team for us really...
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Thinking about I'm not even sure if we want Trott and Cook in the side, they are too slow hitting for one day cricket...
Sure other people may pull you up on this, but Trott averages 55 in ODIs and was superb at the World Cup.
Also, people seem to often overlook other English wicketkeepers in favour of Kieswetter. Mustard at Durham for one has been in superb form with gloves and bat so far this season. Safe hands, and scores runs quickly, bring back the Colonel.
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kieswetter has been in better form, especially in the shorter form.....
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Samit Patel finally gets his long overdue chance. Can be lazy as regards his weight, but my God he is an outstanding cricketer. Also not sure what people's gripe with Trott is, he has a strike rate of 79 in ODIs, which is not slow by any means. Cook goes at 78 in domestic OD matches, and at 130 in T20s, so it proves he can get on with it. People are jumping to conclusions, for example Hashim Amla has an S/R of 50ish in test matches, but one of 97 in ODIs, just because people bat slow in a test match doesn't mean they will in an ODI. Different format, please don't shoot first and ask questions later!
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Trott has a class average, and if we loose an opener early, we know he will happily play the anchor role through the innings whilst KP, Morgo and Belly etc have a swing. Perfect if you ask me