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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: johnnyw on July 06, 2011, 07:27:41 PM
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Who ever said he shouldnt be in the one day team????????
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Me.
And I used to be his coach.
Shows what I know about batting!!!
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It's not him I have a problem with, nor do I have a problem with Trott. What I have a problem with is the fact that the batting line-up is so rigid and both of them bat in the top 3. If Cook continues this form with an S/R of 100+ then it won't be an issue, but if both of them decide they want to bat out 50 overs at a S/R of 75-80 on a belter of a wicket then the chat will start again. If the line-up was based on the game setting then it wouldn't matter.
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i have just seen todays scorecard and cant believe he outscored Kieswetter, thats impressive
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It bothers me that its ment to be a re vamp of the odi squad there are plenty of players that should be in that team James Taylor hildreth Steve Davies shazad graham onions yes we won dnt take that aww from them but the likes of bopara trott wright should not be in in my opinion
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It bothers me that its ment to be a re vamp of the odi squad there are plenty of players that should be in that team James Taylor hildreth Steve Davies shazad graham onions yes we won dnt take that aww from them but the likes of bopara trott wright should not be in in my opinion
how anyone can say trott shouldnt be in the team is beyond me, he's averaging 52 with a strike rate of 78, which is better than most no. 3's out there and he's scored more runs than anyone else in his first 50 odd games
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Well wnt has he done this series not looking for an argument lol but wouldn't you like to aww James Taylor batting at 3 then Steve Davies tell him he has to field and ad even give trego ago
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Steven Davies wouldn't get into the team as a batsman alone, Kieswetter is the man in possession, and Trott is the quickest man ever to 1000 ODI runs. Maybe we should drop Swann as he hasn't taken many wickets this series? Hildreth should be the next man in the team on previous years form but hasn't done much this season to warrant a chance. Therefore, the squad is pretty much the best players in the country although I personally can't stand Stuart Broad but who would come in? Onions? Should be there when fit but can't trust his body and is too similair to Andersen in that if it doesn't swing,loses his potency. Tremlett would be my choice but who knows with the selectors
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how anyone can say trott shouldnt be in the team is beyond me, he's averaging 52 with a strike rate of 78, which is better than most no. 3's out there and he's scored more runs than anyone else in his first 50 odd games
Not many people are saying that I don't think.
The issue, prior to this game, was that you couldn't have two one-paced players such as Cook and Trott in the top 3.
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Cook is a class act and a sound tecnique like his will always outscore the Dilshans/Kieswetters in the long run... but will he get a long run, this will be the question asked? No opener has been trusted long enough as the English selectors are always tinkering and have little faith. A balanced side will always require the Cooks and the Trotts. Who hasnt opened the batting for England? Just about everyone whom the selectors think will be the next Trescothick ... imo the best England opening batsmen this side of 2000.
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I agree I dislike Broad with a massive passion and believe he is greedy and all for himself, and with regards to Graeme Swann, he is the best ODI bowler in the world at the moment, so how can you say drop him, personally i belive Bell is batted too low and i feel that Cook is a Growing ODI player who has a great future ahead. Anderson is a great bowler and should/could never be replaced. Tremlett is a tad hit and miss, look at the game for Surrey against Sussex (T20) he went for 52 in 4 overs... think again
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Cook is just in tremendous form, probably the best batsmen in the world on form, whatever task he has been given he has managed to find a way to score runs. Its just a shame that they way he's playing means even less of him in an Essex shirt :(
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I agree I dislike Broad with a massive passion and believe he is greedy and all for himself, and with regards to Graeme Swann, he is the best ODI bowler in the world at the moment, so how can you say drop him, personally i belive Bell is batted too low and i feel that Cook is a Growing ODI player who has a great future ahead. Anderson is a great bowler and should/could never be replaced. Tremlett is a tad hit and miss, look at the game for Surrey against Sussex (T20) he went for 52 in 4 overs... think again
It was said with sarcasm mate lol, in response to the comment suggesting we drop Trott lol. Yeah fair enough about Tremlett, so it appears we have reached a verdict.... the England one day team is doing alright. PS, Pietersen hasn't scored any runs recently, shuldn't we be calling for his head again by now? :)
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Not many people are saying that I don't think.
The issue, prior to this game, was that you couldn't have two one-paced players such as Cook and Trott in the top 3.
the guy i quoted did
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Broad is overated and always has been
His batting has gone downhill and is bowling is dire at minute.
Big sulker and a bit of a chalker
Not a fan in the same way i dislike Luke Wright
And do not get me started with Keiswetter that selection is a joke but his domestic form was good so fair play but he is simply not good enough
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It was said with sarcasm mate lol, in response to the comment suggesting we drop Trott lol. Yeah fair enough about Tremlett, so it appears we have reached a verdict.... the England one day team is doing alright. PS, Pietersen hasn't scored any runs recently, shuldn't we be calling for his head again by now? :)
U had ur eyes closed lol pietersen to me has been top player for me this series confident all over again
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U had ur eyes closed lol pietersen to me has been top player for me this series confident all over again
Sarcasm again mate, would you rather I made it clearer by putting (!) after it so everyone knows?
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Sarcasm again mate, would you rather I made it clearer by putting (!) after it so everyone knows?
Pointless mate, he doesn't 'do' punctuation.
Oh and Shaq, we are a forum, not a text message.
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Pointless mate, he doesn't 'do' punctuation.
Oh and Shaq, we are a forum, not a text message.
You got it though didn't you Jon? Having a bit of a crisis of confidence as everything I've posted today has been ridiculed or laughed at lol.
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/cricket/3683643/Kieswetter-Cook-is-Englands-latest-hot-shot.html
sounds like cook is using an instinct with that gunshot noise by the sounds of it lol
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cant be mate, he hit no backfoot sixes that went 90m!
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[url]http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/cricket/3683643/Kieswetter-Cook-is-Englands-latest-hot-shot.html[/url]
sounds like cook is using an instinct with that gunshot noise by the sounds of it lol
i know cook is a fan of warsops and has been known to use them!
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Glad Cook didn't beat Gooch's 333. I can still remember that innings and how he dominated the Indian bowlers. I've forgotten much of Cook's innings already! He's not someone I'd shell out my money to go and watch.
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I don't think Cook has peaked yet - they say batsmen reach their best late 20's to early 30's. I think he will go on to be an England great, and hopefully be the leader of a ver dominant England team for several years...
...but you're right, he's not very exciting to watch.
but then neither was Steve Waugh or Mark Taylor or Allan Border
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Being an Aussie this is very hard to say but Cook is my favourite batsman at the moment
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Being an Aussie this is very hard to say but Cook is my favourite batsman at the moment
Boooooo...... Hahah
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Well done Cook you have worked hard to change your game and it has payed off.
After England's dominant Ashes win in Au I said at the time that England is the best Test side in the world and by the length of the Ascot straight. I am right and the thing that has come out here is that Indian players have suspect batting techniques and will always get found out by the very best particularly when India tour abroad.
India are touring Australia this summer and will get beaten here as they will not recover from this current series in time.
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Did anyone else see Nasser Hussain with Cooks bat this morning? Lovely looking piece of willow, massive edges!
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I can't believe that India cant find a better keeper than Dhoni..He is just plain terrible...
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Glad Cook didn't beat Gooch's 333. I can still remember that innings and how he dominated the Indian bowlers. I've forgotten much of Cook's innings already! He's not someone I'd shell out my money to go and watch.
too true - i only went because i had free tickets
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If I've got to sit through another day of Cook nudging the ball around off ineffective bowlers then I'm off shopping with the wife!
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If I've got to sit through another day of Cook nudging the ball around off ineffective bowlers then I'm off shopping with the wife!
You obviously never had to sit and watch Geoff Boycott bat
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i would be cursing geoff boycott more than anything!
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i would be cursing geoff boycott more than anything!
I rather watch Geoff insist his french gf jump off the ledge.
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lol!!!
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Yes saw Boycott play. To be fair to him most test match cricket was played at not much faster pace then and they used spindly bats that couldn't get it off the square. Cook's bat is like half a tree, not that it gets much use!
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Sir Alastair Cook
Has a good ring to it
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A bit ridiculous really.
Especially when he makes his come back...
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A bit ridiculous really.
Especially when he makes his come back...
2019 against the Aussies...
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Sir... Seriously?
Of recent England cricketers, he should've been no better than eighth in line for high honour. Cook was a hard headed pragmatist with the bat, and a great example to kids of how to make the most of what they have but... his yes man approach to the ECB, ruin of the one day team and backstabbing of Pietersen should have mitigated against...
Much as his post playing career has drawn my ire, Strauss, as the skipper who won down under, had a better claim.
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Compared to the other clowns who have and have had awards over the years at least a cricketer has something. Sure he’s had his issues (being a yes man, clearing out the most talented play England have had etc) but .. but ... 100+ tests in a row, 100 on debut be the best team England have played for the last 12/13 years and he’s managed to do what literally NO other England player since Strauss/trott has managed!!! To consistently bat long without resorting to bidfing
Does he deserve it ?? Depends if you feel it’s deseeved by half the others called Sir or not really. Compared to the modern criteria, well batted chef. Enjoy and score plenty of county runs please
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The real question is when will the crown prince of Yorkshire Geoffrey Boycott will get his long overdue knighthood ?
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Don't think they give knighthoods to those found guilty of domestic violence.
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he’s managed to do what literally NO other England player since Strauss/trott has managed!!! To consistently bat long without resorting to bidfing
Pretty inconsistent ovr the past four years, sad to say...
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Definitely doesn’t deserve one yet - took botham years to get one and that was for his charity work.
It was a bit like handing obe’s for winning the ashes.
A few honours also handed out to footballers - not like they won the World Cup.