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General Cricket => Cricket Training, Fitness and Injuries => Topic started by: uknsaunders on August 02, 2011, 09:49:02 PM
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One for the science nerds. Does your height effect the elevation you get on a ball ie. 2 balls in the same spot, would a short person hit the ball flatter than a taller person if they where trying to loft the ball?
Sounds stupid I know, but I hit the ball very flat and hardly ever get elevation, and I'm short. Is this anything to do with levers, hitting arc etc
Any theories to share?
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I'm tall(6'3) and often seem to get more elevation on the ball than most, sadly these shots usually don't have enough distance and I get caught.
I think it is about batting technique tbh. If you lean forward and get over the ball it is more likely to stay quite flat, however if you lean back and get under the ball you will hit it higher(But not necessarily further)
I'm not really sure though, I'll leave my suggestion and see what the batting pros on here have to say.
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As someone well over six foot, I generally hit the ball along the ground, because I was taught to bat getting over the bask. I have to consciously lean back and lift the bask. I think it depends on how you learned to bat.
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I would've thought the height of the batsman's hands would be a key factor in how much elevation you would get? I have quite high hands and have to really hit it early to get enough elevation for a straight 6.
However.... Playing a pull/hook shot, my hands are low and come from under the ball meaning when I play the shot, I generally go over the top.
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Id love to spend a net learning to get under the ball and hit masive sixes as I usually only hit 2 a year sadly.
I have always hit the ball along the ground and get over it before playing through.
To hit up id imagine you should have your weight on the back foot, get under the ball and finish with your head up in the air... which is something thats rarely coached in days gone by.
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we need norbs for this. The scientist in him would give the right answer. My guess would be that there are too many other variables to define before you can get the answer
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I'm not sure this is a Norbs one. I know that when I hit a six, I am in a certain position where I can get under the ball and have to have the face pointing upwards at the point of impact. As a front foot predominant player, this is at odds with where I normally want to play the ball, with the face pointing down.
I think this is one for Buzz...
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take a mate and a tennis ball. get your friend to drop the ball about 1.5 metres in front of you and then try hitting the ball along the floor. then do it again but try to hit the ball as high and far as you can.
as everyone is different it will be a different way for everyone. typically it will be your body position which controls the flight of the ball and your weight transfer, timing and swing speed which controls the power.
anyone think something else?
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i dont think its hight.
when i bat i dont stand up tall im very low and i hit mostly in the air!
i wud say if ur tall its easier to hit ball on floor as ur over the ball
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take a mate and a tennis ball. get your friend to drop the ball about 1.5 metres in front of you and then try hitting the ball along the floor. then do it again but try to hit the ball as high and far as you can.
as everyone is different it will be a different way for everyone. typically it will be your body position which controls the flight of the ball and your weight transfer, timing and swing speed which controls the power.
anyone think something else?
I was waiting for your input Buzz :-)
Just means I hit everything along the floor I guess.
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hitting the ball along the floor is a good thing, but hitting over the top can be learnt...
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nick id love to swap rolls and hit on floor all time id never get out lol
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No its not hight, the only thing that will effect this is the angle of the bat face when the ball is hit.
Any thing else is just a pre cursor to the bat angle...
Think of it like a snooker table, its the same thing, the ball is just bouncing off a bat not a cushion...
If you want to loft it more, try too!
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As others have said the angle of your bat making contact with the ball will decide the arc of the ball.
Taking a different sport, hockey, visualise which part of the ball you need to hit to lift it, I know that if I want to lift a strike at goal I need to hit the ball on a lower point to get 'under' the ball, so the stick needs to be angled so the front edge makes contact with the lower half of the ball.
Another different sport, but irons in golf have different angles to get greater loft.
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the difference with cricket is that the ball could be different heights, too which adds a different dimension.
you need to think beyond bat angle, body, head and hand position also have an impact.
you don't use a wedge off the tee on a par four...
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...but if you are taller you'd get a bigger stride in + with longer leavers you'd reach the ball at an earlier point in your arc, which would give the ball less chance to rise after it had bounced & consequently make it harder to get under, so your more likely to hit it on a lower trajectory.
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...but if you are taller you'd get a bigger stride in + with longer leavers you'd reach the ball at an earlier point in your arc, which would give the ball less chance to rise after it had bounced & consequently make it harder to get under, so your more likely to hit it on a lower trajectory.
I don't agree! as the ball pitches in different places no one size player is more likely to hit the ball higher if lower, it is entirely a technique thing.
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we're talking about if 2 different size batsman faced an identical delivery though aren't we?
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In golf, guys like Woosnam do it the ball very flat because of their height/swing. Just thought I'd throw it in as golfers hit the ball from the same spot (the tee) ball after ball.
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the difference with cricket is that the ball could be different heights, too which adds a different dimension.
you need to think beyond bat angle, body, head and hand position also have an impact.
you don't use a wedge off the tee on a par four...
Thats not ture, body, head, hand position and the incoming angle of the ball dont really matter, its the resultant angle of ball/bat at contact.
These other things will effect the bat abgle, say if your leaning back then the bat is likly to come up off the shot, but its only the bat angle thst actually makes any differance....
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In golf, guys like Woosnam do it the ball very flat because of their height/swing. Just thought I'd throw it in as golfers hit the ball from the same spot (the tee) ball after ball.
woosie hits the ball typically with a.high draw...
Ross- I'm including carry in my views as we are talking about hitting sizes and not giving catches!