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Title: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: tim2000s on September 23, 2011, 04:38:51 PM
Right, Martin Berrill have this beauty on their website, and I'd dearly love to give them 160 of my hard earned pounds for one. I love the way they look, and think that they are a classic..... But...

I've never truly found the middle of a scoop, and they often haven't had great pick up.

I'm torn.... Should I press buy? Your opinions welcome!!!
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: Colesy on September 23, 2011, 04:42:10 PM
Just look at it, then watch your money leave your wallet and hand it to the nice guy in the shop.
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: Beachcricket on September 23, 2011, 04:46:38 PM
Are they out? I thought this was a pre order thing.

I know as soon as I see one I'll want to buy it.
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: Tom on September 23, 2011, 04:47:50 PM
Yes, they're massive bats. But I'd hand select it, they're not top grade bats so I'd want to ensure I got a decent one.
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: Johnny on September 23, 2011, 06:52:15 PM
My scoop has a great middle and a lovely pick up! Hand picking one does sound like a good idea if you can
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: petehosk on September 23, 2011, 09:13:35 PM
MMMMMMMMMMMM!
(http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/ii471/petehosk/LORDS2011/GN/gn02.jpg)

Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: roco on September 23, 2011, 09:18:39 PM
I remember scoops having light pick ups and great middles but that may ve nostalgia talking but that is what is also tempting me to get one

Just buy one pete so I can get it off you later
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: Colesy on September 23, 2011, 09:30:54 PM
Trust the Hosk to have one!
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: gabbers on September 23, 2011, 09:46:52 PM
Trust the Hosk to have one!
looks a bit more like the gn factory shop
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: Tom on September 23, 2011, 09:48:43 PM
It's at Lord's.
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: gabbers on September 23, 2011, 09:57:18 PM
oh yeah ofcourse
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: Canners on September 23, 2011, 10:04:56 PM
I know of one for sale if anyones interested?
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: tim2000s on September 23, 2011, 10:39:54 PM
I know of one for sale if anyones interested?
Sadly the price is too high, and it costs more than £45.
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: Canners on September 23, 2011, 10:42:37 PM
one for you Tim

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/VINTAGE-GRAY-NICOLLS-GN-100-SCOOP-GREG-CHAPPELL-CRICKET-BAT-/330616576163?pt=AU_Cricket_Memorabilia&hash=item4cfa4898a3
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: Buzz on September 24, 2011, 01:58:51 PM
each to there own, I picked that bat up at lords and hated it. not one for me.
use the bats you have.
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: psincock on September 26, 2011, 08:19:26 AM
I emailed Martin Berril to ask when these become available this is the answer i got.

"This bat is available now.Gray Nicolls are making to order for us now so all we need are your specifications and they can produce a bat very quickly"
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: Damo1583 on September 26, 2011, 05:56:28 PM
I am buying one!!! and an SS Jumbo......midlife crisis at 37.....lol
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: kalph on September 26, 2011, 06:36:51 PM
if you want actual pictures of them i could sort you out its 5 minutes away from my house :) just wondering
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: psincock on September 26, 2011, 08:16:32 PM
I have  succumbed and ordered one today ! ;)
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: tommo256 on November 07, 2011, 09:12:45 AM
Im tempted, I had the old mans one as one my first bat. But how much difference is there between harrow and SH?
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: Johnny on November 07, 2011, 09:28:32 AM
I really want one, and I have money available for a new bat too - can't decide whether this would just be a novelty though, or whether I would genuinely want to use it as a main match bat.
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: 100 not out on November 07, 2011, 09:37:57 AM
I have one on order. I had specified a larger oval handle. If it doesn't have one then mine may be available at a slightly reduced price. It's expected end of the month.
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: Johnny on November 07, 2011, 10:09:33 AM
I have one on order. I had specified a larger oval handle. If it doesn't have one then mine may be available at a slightly reduced price. It's expected end of the month.

What weight?
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: 100 not out on November 07, 2011, 10:58:44 AM
2.9
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: thebigginge on November 07, 2011, 11:07:36 AM
I know, the paperwork is on my workbench!
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: psincock on November 07, 2011, 11:41:14 AM
Well its over a month since i ordered mine from Martin Berrill, I had an email last week from them to say they had received the bat but weren't happy with the weight so had sent it back and were waiting on another one to arrive. The weight i ordered was 2lb 10oz, just dying for it to turn up now the suspense is killing
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: Tumo on November 07, 2011, 11:44:07 AM
Well its over a month since i ordered mine from Martin Berrill, I had an email last week from them to say they had received the bat but weren't happy with the weight so had sent it back and were waiting on another one to arrive. The weight i ordered was 2lb 10oz, just dying for it to turn up now the suspense is killing
Fair play to them for doing that! Awfully decent of them.
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: thebigginge on November 07, 2011, 11:52:52 AM
interesting......
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: psincock on November 07, 2011, 11:54:37 AM
interesting......

?
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: thebigginge on November 07, 2011, 11:57:53 AM
see thebigginge walking out of factory door to slap numpty from sales office around head for posting out things they shouldn't have"!

Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: psincock on November 07, 2011, 12:57:12 PM
He He

Pics please  ;)
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: iand123 on November 07, 2011, 01:00:58 PM
So are these bats being made to order?
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: thebigginge on November 07, 2011, 01:17:04 PM
we are making them to order, they are also made by our factory in India. So it will depend on spec of the order.
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: iand123 on November 07, 2011, 01:39:18 PM
What "spec" whould you have to have to get it UK made? Also i assume you wont take orders direct?
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: thebigginge on November 07, 2011, 01:40:22 PM
no orders direct, just depends on what is required eg weight/handle type or shape etc.etc.
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: 100 not out on November 07, 2011, 03:24:10 PM
I know, the paperwork is on my workbench!

I dont mind swapping my scoop for Straussys one mate. Lol

I would be grateful if you could make the handle as thick and as oval as possible.
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: Canners on November 07, 2011, 03:47:29 PM
please send him a bat with a ridiculously large rugby ball shaped handle now


I would be grateful if you could make the handle as thick and as oval as possible.
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: Mafito89 on November 07, 2011, 03:48:56 PM
no orders direct, just depends on what is required eg weight/handle type or shape etc.etc.

What would it take to have it made in the uk?

Looking for something around 2.7 -2.8 in weight, long handle or long blade, oval handle, 35mm+ edge size
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: 100 not out on November 07, 2011, 03:53:50 PM
please send him a bat with a ridiculously large rugby ball shaped handle now


Cheers Mikey
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: Canners on November 07, 2011, 03:57:24 PM
Cheers Mikey

haha only playing mate, you have left yourself wide open tho ;)
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: thebigginge on November 07, 2011, 03:58:47 PM
What would it take to have it made in the uk?

Looking for something around 2.7 -2.8 in weight, long handle or long blade, oval handle, 35mm+ edge size

Thats the sort of stuff, however I would not be able to give yuo a time scale on how long it would take, finding wood like that is b****y hard event when you have got 50 - 60000 clefts on site.
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: jamesisapayne on November 07, 2011, 04:03:01 PM
Thats the sort of stuff, however I would not be able to give yuo a time scale on how long it would take, finding wood like that is b****y hard event when you have got 50 - 60000 clefts on site.
What sort of customer service is that Alex! ;)
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: thebigginge on November 07, 2011, 04:04:44 PM
lol, puts miner's lamp on head to go searching in the deepest darkest parts of storage for this rarest of willow......if I'm not back soon, just wait longer
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: Canners on November 07, 2011, 04:12:12 PM
how specific can we be on these orders?

im thinking about requesting a certain frequency of noise that i want my bat to make during the mallet test ;)
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: Canners on November 07, 2011, 04:31:02 PM
100 no depending on how good your one is, i may jump on the bandwagon and order one of these bad boys
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: psincock on November 18, 2011, 10:57:29 PM
Well had an email today from Martin Berrill to say they have received my bat from Gray Nicolls and that it was now on its way to me and i should receive it Monday....Yay

Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: 123* on November 19, 2011, 11:01:45 AM
Go for it! You won't be dissapointed, love mine!
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: psincock on November 21, 2011, 05:30:28 PM
Well after what seems like an eternity it finally arrived.
Weight is 2lb 10oz and im really impressed with the pickup. It feels lovely in the hands. The edges are massive. Taps up really well off the mallet. The face isnt particularly clean for a grade 2 with a few blemishes ( am i being too fussy?). Anyway here are a couple of quick pics.
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6054/6377599993_1cb183b4a7_b.jpg)
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6034/6377598703_36d6bbfd7b_b.jpg)
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6103/6377603113_1862e6ab9a_b.jpg)
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6035/6377605007_cb81c76f73_b.jpg)
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6055/6377606631_29e08cbdbf_b.jpg)
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6035/6377610145_263c656731_b.jpg)
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: essexarsenal on November 21, 2011, 05:31:57 PM
Wow, I want one now !
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on November 21, 2011, 06:29:01 PM
Love it, Grainage doesn't look too bad. Looks quite dark so it probably highlights it more than usual.
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: PM7 on November 21, 2011, 06:32:00 PM
What does perimeter weighted actually mean?
Apologies if it sounds silly but im intrigued to know how the weight that is removed from the spine is compensated.
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: peplow on November 21, 2011, 06:35:12 PM
does it mean the weight from the scoop is distributed evenly to the perimeter of the bat (to provide the large edges) or am i taking the phrase too much on face value.
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: psincock on November 21, 2011, 06:38:53 PM
This is the explanation for golf bats  ;)

Perimeter-Weighted: (also 'cavity back, cavity-back') a style of club head where the mass is distributed more toward the perimeter (outside edges) of the club head in order to increase the effective size of the center of mass

Definition: Distribution of the weight in a clubhead more evenly around the club by moving more weight to the heel, toe and sole. Blades or muscleback irons have most of the weight right behind the center of the clubface. Cavity-back clubs are perimeter weighted, which has the effect of enlarging of making the club more forgiving on off-center hits
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: PM7 on November 21, 2011, 06:59:33 PM
Thanks chaps, I always thought that a large spine running the length was the basis for a powerful bat.
Title: Re: GN100 Perimeter Weight - Should I or Shouldn't I...?
Post by: raymond.2 on November 21, 2011, 08:59:51 PM
Im tempted to try one of these new scoops, they seem a fair price.

As a golfer im aware that its much easier to hit cavity back clubs are than blades, i dont see why the same isnt possible for cricket bats.

I have never been a fan of huge concaving as I have never been good enough to consistently middle the ball.

I dont see a problem with there being a lack of mass behind the middle, if the bat is pressed well then I dont think it will matter.