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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: 100 not out on October 06, 2011, 10:50:34 AM
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Having spent quite a bit of money on the top top bats that money can buy. . . .i can say that there is a minimal difference between them in terms of performance. Everytime a new bat came out i wanted to try it out, thinking i will find the ultimate performance. i have recently seen bats that were destined for world class international players but they arent worlds apart, maybe slightly better.
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The problem you have is that Pete manages to buy all the best bats before anyone else gets a look in...!
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i think your heading has hit the nail on the head....
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100no and I swap bats sometimes so it's probably more the fact the Ahmed is fussy about handles and pickup! People judge bats many ways and a bat that one person will love and use brilliantly will seem like a plank to someone else!
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Having spent quite a bit of money on the top top bats that money can buy. . . .i can say that there is a minimal difference between them in terms of performance. Everytime a new bat came out i wanted to try it out, thinking i will find the ultimate performance. i have recently seen bats that were destined for world class international players but they arent worlds apart, maybe slightly better.
Go on then,what you top 5 bats? :D
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Alot of the time its about self confidence. What I mean is, if you love the bat then its going to be a world beater no matter the cost. Yes there is different grades of willow avaliable to us but at the end of the day its just willow. And they are all the same....
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Hmmm, remember posting a similar topic myself!!!
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The art of selling alot of bats doesn't really seem how good they are, but how good you can get people to think they are.
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Yes there is different grades of willow avaliable to us but at the end of the day its just willow. And they are all the same....
I cannot agree with that.
Once in a while a marvellous piece of Salix Alba will cross your hands....
Do you believe in love at first sight?
You will when you effortlessly crunch your first boundary.
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I'm with Reds. My favourite bats I've used have been a GM 808 and 909, not Original or Original L.E. Sure my Ayrtek was a good bat but it didn't feel as nice as the other two. I'm really picky when it comes to the feel of a bat a bit like 100not out because there is no point having a bat which goes well but doesn't fill you with confidence. At the end of the day if you time your shots well, it's not necessarily that important if you have a G1 bat or G3.
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I cannot agree with that.
Once in a while a marvellous piece of Salix Alba will cross your hands....
Do you believe in love at first sight?
You will when you effortlessly crunch your first boundary.
I agree with that to an extent, I've had 2-3 bats that I've seen as a perfect match for me, and two of them were well under 100 pounds at the time. I think buying an expensive bat just increases your chances of getting a good bit of wood. The rest is down to luck and personal preferences.
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Gray Nics Nitro 5*is my fave bat. 2.7lb looked huge at the time, looks a standard bat now!
£120 quid lasted 2 seasons, how I miss thee!
Admitedly the 4* picked up a lot better in the shop but I went with the slightly higher quality of willow.
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i think there's a case to be made for a little knowledge can be dangerous. While i've learnt loads about bats on here I'm now way fussier, before i'd wander round and pick up bats till one felt good and that would be that so long as the rebound was passable. I was starting to get super fussy after a year or so on here till I realised it hadn't made a blind bit of difference to my game and went back to anything that felt good.
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i think there's a case to be made for a little knowledge can be dangerous. While i've learnt loads about bats on here I'm now way fussier, before i'd wander round and pick up bats till one felt good and that would be that so long as the rebound was passable. I was starting to get super fussy after a year or so on here till I realised it hadn't made a blind bit of difference to my game and went back to anything that felt good.
So right... find a bat you love, then use it. The bats I've scored most runs with haven't been top of the range...
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So right... find a bat you love, then use it. The bats I've scored most runs with haven't been top of the range...
The problem is, after too long on here, plenty of people would write off anything with less than 10 grains, or a knot, or that didn't cost 300+
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The problem is, after too long on here, plenty of people would write off anything with less than 10 grains, or a knot, or that didn't cost 300+
Exactly. To an impressionable and possibly uneducated person, it would be easy to believe that. Indeed you see posts every day alluding to it.
Those cheap GNs I got seem like they are all going to perform as well as any bat I have owned or used, for around £40 a piece. Why would I want to spend £200+ now?
I've said for a while that if someone wants a top end bat and can't decide on which maker, pick the one with your favourite stickers. You will get a great bat which ever brand you go for. Also, noone is making bats that clearly outperform the rest.
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I guess it is important for everyone to rationally examine whether or not it makes sense to buy an expensive bat. I can't answer for others, but I can share my thoughts on the matter which may well be very wrong. I play low level cricket for fun and recreation here in the U.S.. Odd? Yes, but I did a Master's degree at a university in the UK long ago and fell in love with the game, and my wife is from Guyana so we have a ready and eager pool of players here. Clearly, I don't need a high quality bat for "performance improvement". To think that would be to fall victim to the marketing traps so often found in golf, where 30 handicappers buy the latest driver and the same balls Tiger Woods uses. Nor would I buy one for all of the vanity/ stupidity reasons that are very common here in the U.S., like "I deserve the best," or to show off that one can afford the best.
So, why? I will draw an analogy to fly fishing. I grew up fly fishing as a boy in the High Sierras. I now use exclusively bamboo rods that are made by small scale individual makers from places as disparate as Sweden and Alaska. I enjoy the interaction with the maker, and the beauty of a rod made from natural and not space age materials. I admire the craftsmanship and the effort that has gone into mastering the craft. Fishing with a bamboo rod is just a different experience---yes, I would get more fish if I threw a grenade in, and I would probably catch the same amount of fish with a cheap rod; but experience is more than mere results. There is also pleasure in learning and experimentation---rods, like bats, can be very different and made to suit different people or situations.
This is why I don't mind getting a hand made, English willow bat that costs more and will make little practical difference in my score. It enhances my cricket experience to have something beautiful made by an individual, rather than something churned out in a sweat shop, or by a machine. In my cricketing world I enjoy the lunch, the tea, watching my sons play, the camaraderie with the other players, the light, the sun, the breeze, the fact that the clock goes largely unheeded; and so why not have a beautiful bat that reminds me of England? I also enjoy thinking about bats, the theories behind the designs, the endless quest for the perfect fit---all this can be as valuable as an extra yard of distance. Just some of my impractical reasons.
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I guess it is important for everyone to rationally examine whether or not it makes sense to buy an expensive bat. I can't answer for others, but I can share my thoughts on the matter which may well be very wrong. I play low level cricket for fun and recreation here in the U.S.. Odd? Yes, but I did a Master's degree at a university in the UK long ago and fell in love with the game, and my wife is from Guyana so we have a ready and eager pool of players here. Clearly, I don't need a high quality bat for "performance improvement". To think that would be to fall victim to the marketing traps so often found in golf, where 30 handicappers buy the latest driver and the same balls Tiger Woods uses. Nor would I buy one for all of the vanity/ stupidity reasons that are very common here in the U.S., like "I deserve the best," or to show off that one can afford the best.
So, why? I will draw an analogy to fly fishing. I grew up fly fishing as a boy in the High Sierras. I now use exclusively bamboo rods that are made by small scale individual makers from places as disparate as Sweden and Alaska. I enjoy the interaction with the maker, and the beauty of a rod made from natural and not space age materials. I admire the craftsmanship and the effort that has gone into mastering the craft. Fishing with a bamboo rod is just a different experience---yes, I would get more fish if I threw a grenade in, and I would probably catch the same amount of fish with a cheap rod; but experience is more than mere results. There is also pleasure in learning and experimentation---rods, like bats, can be very different and made to suit different people or situations.
This is why I don't mind getting a hand made, English willow bat that costs more and will make little practical difference in my score. It enhances my cricket experience to have something beautiful made by an individual, rather than something churned out in a sweat shop, or by a machine. In my cricketing world I enjoy the lunch, the tea, watching my sons play, the camaraderie with the other players, the light, the sun, the breeze, the fact that the clock goes largely unheeded; and so why not have a beautiful bat that reminds me of England? I also enjoy thinking about bats, the theories behind the designs, the endless quest for the perfect fit---all this can be as valuable as an extra yard of distance. Just some of my impractical reasons.
The poetic justification for owning Bats... Now I hope that Pete Hosk reads this... It certainly resonates with me...
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I'm showing that to the missus
Makes perfect sense to me :)
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I'm showing that to the missus
Makes perfect sense to me :)
Lol. When your missus finds out what you've done, you'll need it...
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The poetic justification for owning Bats... Now I hope that Pete Hosk reads this... It certainly resonates with me...
Indeed. I take slight issue with the lack of improved perforamnce though. I don't think there is a massive difference in how the bat performs, but I'm sure we all know that if you're using one that you are really comfortable with, you bat better because you feel better. An example - I have an old, battered Newbery B52 - its not the best piece of willow I own, certainly not the prettiest (though it probably is the biggest) and I've got a lot fo runs with it. So, my next bat was, as near as damn it, the same but with a nicer set of grains. Thus far its been used twice because, erm, there is just something about it that does not agree with me...
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^^^^ like @tims comment