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Title: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: Cover_Drive on October 23, 2011, 07:49:56 AM

A video link posted by langer17 on other forum so I thought I'd share here so while I was watching the video near the end (at 26:00 mark) in the background I see a bat with yellow grip and it is like Newbery TT.

So question is Julian was the first one to experiment that before Newbery stole his idea?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8461984891164955804#

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: Number4 on October 23, 2011, 07:59:23 AM

Since Julian done his apprenticeship under John Newbery do you think there is a chance Julian "borrowed" the original idea?

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: Cover_Drive on October 23, 2011, 08:00:08 AM

You think John Newbery did it all the way back?

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: Number4 on October 23, 2011, 08:00:36 AM

Maybe

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: Number4 on October 23, 2011, 08:01:45 AM

I'm sure podshavers have been experimenting for many many years

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: Johnny on October 23, 2011, 08:02:42 AM

TT is like a modern day newbery Excalibur isn't? They're a good 30 years old

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: Number4 on October 23, 2011, 08:07:15 AM

Exactly Johnny... late 70's early 80's...Just when  Julian was doing his apprenticeship

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: Cover_Drive on October 23, 2011, 08:21:59 AM

Mind posting Excaliburs picture?

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: tim2000s on October 23, 2011, 08:25:03 AM

Quote from: Cover_Drive on October 23, 2011, 08:21:59 AM

Mind posting Excaliburs picture?

There was also the slazenger wg from the same period with a very similar shape.

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: Number4 on October 23, 2011, 08:28:27 AM

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x406/number414/crjk-lance-cairns-article-0-05445681000005dc-259_468x469.jpg)

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: Number4 on October 23, 2011, 08:38:01 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABVP4zvpMFw&feature=player_embedded#!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73Fg5Uvo-ME&feature=related

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: 12man on October 23, 2011, 09:25:59 AM

There was the Slazanger WG and Grey Nicolls Volcano  all late 70s/early80's both shoulderless

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: 12man on October 23, 2011, 10:11:05 AM

Heres the Volcano
(http://i56.tinypic.com/11wekio.jpg)

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: thecord on October 23, 2011, 10:12:56 AM

Wish those were the prices today!

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: Number4 on October 23, 2011, 10:38:47 AM

Still believe the Excalibur was first.. '78-'79 I think

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: 100 not out on October 23, 2011, 10:57:32 AM

I have seen a slazenger shoulder less bat. A good few years ago.

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: Tom on October 23, 2011, 11:19:07 AM

John Newbery invented the GN Scoop and the Excalibur, Millichamp was his apprentice.

John left Gray Nics in the early 80's, to set up Newbery. I believe Tim Keeley may have also worked at some point for Nics.

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: Number4 on October 23, 2011, 11:31:17 AM

But Cairns used the Excalibur in '79 playing for Otago scoring 110 batting at no.9 Tom

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: Tom on October 23, 2011, 11:46:54 AM

He used a Crown to score that 100.

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: Number4 on October 23, 2011, 11:48:38 AM

Ok... Was just reading off Cricinfo on that one

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: Number4 on October 23, 2011, 11:53:25 AM

Well apart from the bats from the 1700's I still believe the Excalibur was the first shoulderless bat...lol

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: Cover_Drive on October 23, 2011, 02:56:01 PM

Quote from: Tom on October 23, 2011, 11:19:07 AM

John Newbery invented the GN Scoop and the Excalibur, Millichamp was his apprentice.

John left Gray Nics in the early 80's, to set up Newbery. I believe Tim Keeley may have also worked at some point for Nics.

So John learned his batmaking from Gray Nicolls?

Does it mean Andrew Kember also started off Gray Nicolls?

Title: Re: Julian Millichamp First Made TT Shape Bat?
Post by: Tom on October 23, 2011, 04:26:28 PM

Yes. Len Newbery (John Newbery's father) was one of the original bat makers at Nicolls, prior to when it became Gray Nicolls.

I believe Kember was just at Newbery. But may be wrong.