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Title: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: uknsaunders on November 26, 2011, 01:31:05 PM
Before we get into a series of arguments on the subject and eventually decide everyone is different, I'd like your views on the subject and any pros/cons.
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: The_Bird on November 26, 2011, 01:37:42 PM
I used to tap my bat behind my back foot but as I got older It felt a bit restrictive. Ever since I've tapped my bat between my legs as It feels alot comfier and negates getting pad and bat mixed up against quicker bowlers. Also only in the last 3 years I have picked up the bat prior to the bowler passing the umpire it gives me way more time against the quicks.
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: Maverick79 on November 26, 2011, 01:41:35 PM
It would be interesting to see what position the stances are too - open, orthodox, closed as that is something I have experimented with in the past and have gone from orthodox to a more open stance.

I have my bat behind my back foot. Have tried it in between but it just feels odd and I feel my bat doesn't come down straight from that position.
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: langer17 on November 26, 2011, 01:43:34 PM
I tap behind my back foot three times, then I get into my stance while the bolwer is around halfway through his run up.
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: Simmy on November 26, 2011, 02:00:31 PM
i tap my bat behind my back foot smashing the ground agressivly  saying to my self this is going out of the ground this is going out of the ground! woooooooooosh out lol
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: 19reading87 on November 26, 2011, 02:02:11 PM
I tap behind my back foot three times, then I get into my stance while the bolwer is around halfway through his run up.

Very Hussey like....
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: 100 not out on November 26, 2011, 02:12:14 PM
i reckon Richie Richardson used to be the best tapper
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: uknsaunders on November 26, 2011, 02:19:43 PM
reason I was asking is for most of my cricket years it was a classical stance. However, I found  approx 2 seasons ago that putting my bat between my legs lowered by backswing and helped against the quicks. The last year or so my back has been playing up when batting, so I've widened my stance and tried to stand straighter but keep my bat touching the floor. Feel a little more balanced but my foot movement needs working on.
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: Red Ink Cricket on November 26, 2011, 02:26:17 PM
Mine is slightly open with feet approx shoulder width apart. Tap the bat on my boot and not the floor. Means I don't get it damp and also find myself taller, more upright and for me comfortable.
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: tim2000s on November 26, 2011, 02:36:57 PM
Feet shoulder width apart, tap ground behind feet once, bat held in the air, very upright with eyes level. Pretty closed.

Against left armers, open up my stance by moving front foot to the legside about 2 or 3 inches.
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: Johnny on November 26, 2011, 04:25:18 PM
....Tim bats with his eyes closed?!
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: Joe on November 26, 2011, 04:54:03 PM
I have a slightly open stance (shoulders pointing to mid on) and feet shoulder with apart. My bat will rest just outside my big toe and my backswing will come from gully. I tap a few times before the bowler runs up, and then my bat is held in the air dobbing up and down in a Trott-esque manner. I don't stand very tall, my back is quite arched.
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: tim2000s on November 26, 2011, 05:21:06 PM
....Tim bats with his eyes closed?!
Use the force, young paduwan.
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: Colesy on November 27, 2011, 01:47:36 AM
I have my bat between my feet and have done for the last few years but my stance is more than shoulder width and slightly open. I've been told my stance gets wider the longer my innings goes on, weird.
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: Buzz on November 27, 2011, 08:08:39 AM
hello - I have an issue with your idea of a wide stance - feet 2 ft apart is a pretty wide stance - 3 feet apart is bigger than most peoples forward movement for a forward defence.

If you look in the older text books, you feet should be shoulder width apart which is typically about 18 inches (assumung you are measuring the gap from instep to instep.

Having a wider stance and then a trigger into a more natural position is a very modern technique.

It is a bit like comparing Ian Bell to Kevin Pieterson really. Actually both can work, I watched a village game where there was a more experienced player with a classic old school technique, feet close together, playing the ball late and a youngster all kevin peitersen and it was great to watch and must have been very difficult to bowl at.

Stance is a comfort thing, although i would typically encourage a narrower stance than wider, but that doesn't make me right - I just think it looks more natural.
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: ppccopener on November 27, 2011, 08:52:03 AM
nice to see this sort of thread on this forum rather than some of the stuff that gets posted.people will have different views on what works best.Here's my take on this:
having batted the same way for years-bat behind right foot and stance shoulder width apart and side on-i've always struggled with balance.I went to our coach in august and asked him for 5 mins saying i had a problem with not being still and the head falling over to the offside.he told me the following :
1.feet wider apart,wider than shoulders but not much.
2.open stance slightly.
3.bat between your legs not behind the foot-bat inside the right foot,does not have to be in the centre between yr legs but inside the foot.
4.hit 1000 balls in the nets with this stance and it will become natural.
This has worked for me,it felt strange to start with and still jan-march nets to work on it,but it helped because it gave me a solid base to start with.
Head as still as possible to and eyes level...
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: Ryan on November 27, 2011, 09:15:46 AM
Yeah I'm the same, slight open stance with bat in between. Feel more natural to me.
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: roco on November 27, 2011, 09:18:08 AM
I've gone back to my old stance after people's advice last season very open and still kind of like a rh gayle to put it in perspective
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: Simmy on November 27, 2011, 09:35:04 AM
Yeah I'm the same, slight open stance with bat in between. Feel more natural to me.

u dont have open stance ur propa side on u kid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMfxQMVfPWY
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: uknsaunders on November 27, 2011, 10:03:12 AM
agree with simmy, you have a classic stance not open
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: Buzz on November 27, 2011, 12:19:45 PM
further on stance... jack hobbs, don bradman, sachin, viv all of the great batsmen have had a side on stance with feet shoulder width apart.
if it is good enough for them...
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: FattusCattus on November 27, 2011, 08:12:24 PM
Ahem! I think you left someone out there Buzz!
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: Joe on November 27, 2011, 08:15:01 PM
Len Hutton?
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: Buzz on November 27, 2011, 08:23:27 PM
yea, sorry.
Ahem! I think you left someone out there Buzz!

further on stance... jack hobbs, don bradman, sachin, viv, brucie r, ramps, peter may, sir Geoff, waugh s and m, even chanderpaul after his trigger is side on, all of the great batsmen have had a side on stance with feet shoulder width apart.
if it is good enough for them...

better?
Title: Re: Preferred Stance and Pickup Position
Post by: FattusCattus on November 27, 2011, 08:28:05 PM
Yeah - I think I could bat no5 in that lineup!