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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: kaustav on December 14, 2011, 10:51:03 PM

Title: Atomic or Carbo Handles
Post by: kaustav on December 14, 2011, 10:51:03 PM
OK-- I have been having this discussion with a fellow forum member about the Gray Nicolls Atomic and Carbo ranges. I checked using the search function but there really aren't any discussion on this.

So my question is:

What is the difference between the Atomic and the Carbo handles? And why is Atomic priced higher than the Carbo-- what's the x-factor in the Atomic handle?

Thanks in advance folks.
Title: Re: Atomic or Carbo Handles
Post by: yvk3103 on December 14, 2011, 10:55:16 PM
Never been a  fan of the GN Atomic and Carbo versions. Think it is more to do with the willow grading than the "X-factor" in the handle.

Maybe someone who has taken the handles apart might know the difference.
Title: Re: Atomic or Carbo Handles
Post by: kaustav on December 14, 2011, 10:57:23 PM
They say stiffer handles give you more value for shots  ;)

I have both and apart from the Atomic and Carbo tags it is really difficult to differentiate the feel.
Title: Re: Atomic or Carbo Handles
Post by: norbs on December 14, 2011, 11:25:41 PM
They say stiffer handles give you more value for shots  ;)


True but they'll be illegal handles even for Type C bats!!
Title: Re: Atomic or Carbo Handles
Post by: tim2000s on December 15, 2011, 01:30:18 AM
True but they'll be illegal handles even for Type C bats!!
As long as it is less than 10% of the handle it is fine!
Title: Re: Atomic or Carbo Handles
Post by: norbs on December 15, 2011, 07:58:20 AM
As long as it is less than 10% of the handle it is fine!

20% for Type C
Title: Re: Atomic or Carbo Handles
Post by: kaustav on December 15, 2011, 08:01:48 AM
So would the GN Fusion be a Type C?
Title: Re: Atomic or Carbo Handles
Post by: tim2000s on December 15, 2011, 08:05:35 AM
So would the GN Fusion be a Type C?
I believe the Fusions were made prior to the introduction of the handle materials rule, and if they were made today, they wouldn't fit any of the types.
Title: Re: Atomic or Carbo Handles
Post by: norbs on December 15, 2011, 08:06:05 AM
So would the GN Fusion be a Type C?

If you mean the old GN carbo handle... then if it was made after the law changes if would be illegal
Title: Re: Atomic or Carbo Handles
Post by: kaustav on December 15, 2011, 08:08:06 AM
Thanks guys  ;D
Title: Re: Atomic or Carbo Handles
Post by: thebigginge on December 15, 2011, 08:16:34 AM
Atomic Handle

8 - 12 piece laminated cane handle that has springs made from carbon fibre rather then cork or rubber. Giving a stiffer handle so less energy is lost when striking a ball. Fitted with a large transparent handle cap on the end to rduce acoustic difference. Basically it was another twist on the original steel spring handle.

Carbo Handle

8 - 12 piece laminated cane handle with cork springs that has carbo fibre re-enforcement attached to the exterior of the handle from the top of the splice for about 5 inches, to offer protection to the handle from ball strike as the base of the handle is a natural stress point.  Fited with a black handle cap.

CARBON Handle

Only ever fitted within the fusion range, a 100% carbon fibre handle that weighed less than  1/3 of the weight of a cane handle. The theory was that you can keep the weight within the blade giving you a bigger profile. 

Hope this helps

Alex
Title: Re: Atomic or Carbo Handles
Post by: kaustav on December 15, 2011, 08:18:32 AM
Atomic Handle

8 - 12 piece laminated cane handle that has springs made from carbon fibre rather then cork or rubber. Giving a stiffer handle so less energy is lost when striking a ball. Fitted with a large transparent handle cap on the end to rduce acoustic difference. Basically it was another twist on the original steel spring handle.

Carbo Handle

8 - 12 piece laminated cane handle with cork springs that has carbo fibre re-enforcement attached to the exterior of the handle from the top of the splice for about 5 inches, to offer protection to the handle from ball strike as the base of the handle is a natural stress point.  Fited with a black handle cap.

CARBON Handle

Only ever fitted within the fusion range, a 100% carbon fibre handle that weighed less than  1/3 of the weight of a cane handle. The theory was that you can keep the weight within the blade giving you a bigger profile. 

Hope this helps

Alex

Definitely helps Alex. Thanks boss.
Title: Re: Atomic or Carbo Handles
Post by: tim2000s on December 15, 2011, 08:22:22 AM
This would be one of the full carbon handled range:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390310314449?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Title: Re: Atomic or Carbo Handles
Post by: Canners on December 15, 2011, 08:43:13 AM
I had a rapier carbon, the pick up was horrible because of the light handle