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Equipment => Wicket Keeping => Topic started by: StevieG on January 02, 2012, 01:22:26 PM
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Hiya,
Can anyone give some thoughts on helmets for WK's please.
I have seen these new Aero mask and didn't know if anyone had used them and what their thoughts were. I guess my only concern is that the natural instinct would be to turn your head if you thought you were going to get one in the face, and if you were quick enough (!) there wouldn't be much protection there?
Alternatively, I thought i saw somewhere that some manufactures were making WK specific helmets? is this correct and if so what's the difference and anyone had a go??
what about the Ayrtek helmets for WK??
I've got a GN helmet, but used a newer, but old Albion off a friend which seemed better.
Thanks
Steve
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I would recommend the Ayrtek. I used an ayrtek all last season and I had no problems with vision etc.
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To be honest most are fine to keep in, i have kept in both an albion when i was younger and a masuri for the last 5 years and they have both been fine, and from what people have said the ayrteks are also good and can only see them being better due to being lighter
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i never keep in a lid because i cant stand it when ball goes above ur head its harder to see.
and tbh only pussys keep in lids
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there has been this debate on here before - to lid or not to lid, ive been forced to from a young age and it has become natural, think i will keep wearing one most of my cricketing life
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thats fair enough i just feel when keeping you need the best view possible not just for the ball but the fielders etc as well..
i had to ware once if i was stud up up till 18 but as soon as i was i took it off.
been hit a few times its not nice but still dont ware one
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You have the same vision in a helmet when batting as when keeping so what's the difference? I've nearly always kept with a lid on when standing up. If you are up to the stumps against a medium pacer and the batsmen top edges a short ball you don't stand a chance! For the sake of a game I'd rather keep my good looks!
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cant beat being hit in the temple and knocking ur self out when all your teams mates are laughing at you!.
few reason when your keeping and your crouched down i find the helmets dont let enough light in.
also if some one top edges it above ur head and ur looking up in sky its easier to see with out a helmet on as the peak restrictions ur view meaning u have to look right up to get a glimps of the ball.
i just hate having a lid on keeping
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also if some one top edges it above ur head and ur looking up in sky its easier to see with out a helmet on as the peak restrictions ur view meaning u have to look right up to get a glimps of the ball.
Agree with that point, but I just think the positives hugely outweigh the negatives, but at the end of the day it's a personal thing. I hope you have the number of a good dentist!
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I'm not a wicket keeper, and never have been, so I'm not really sure what I'd use, but Masuri do a specialist lid for keepers, and we stock it, as you can see here:
http://www.itsjustcricket.co.uk/wicket-keeping-c11/junior-wicket-keeping-c13/navy-wicket-keeping-helmet-steel-grille-p228
Aside from the shortened peak, there's not much difference to their normal helmets. We couldn't help but notice that the other specialist helmet manufacturers don't yet offer specific wicket keeping helmets, and Aero's is very expensive, so there's potentially a gap in the market here...
www.itsjustcricket.co.uk
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isnt there a difference in the back, slightly highe to allow air to the back on the heads too on the masuri.
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isnt there a difference in the back, slightly highe to allow air to the back on the heads too on the masuri.
Yes I thought it had a higher back, but I thought this was for a better fit, so that the helmet did not hit your back when crouching.
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no idea mate, maybe both. i just remembered reading about removing bits that arent needed!
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Set to be widely used on the the First Class scene and designed in conjuction with Paul Nixon of Leics CC. The Masuri keepers helmet has a strong carbon fibre reinforced construction and is cloth covered in Navy material. The raised back allows for greater freedom of movement within the wicket keeping stance and the shorter peak improves all round vision. The vented shell is light but strong and has an adjustable head band to acheive a tailored fit. New improved spec for even greater protection and comes in two Senior sizes, complete with top quality standard style steel grill.
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i stand corrected. fair enough :)
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... said the man in the orthopaedic shoes!
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I use an Ayrtek when keeping, no problems at all for me.
Not sure what I will do when I turn 18 and don't have to wear a lid when standing up...
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I'm not a wicket keeper, and never have been, so I'm not really sure what I'd use, but Masuri do a specialist lid for keepers, and we stock it, as you can see here:
[url]http://www.itsjustcricket.co.uk/wicket-keeping-c11/junior-wicket-keeping-c13/navy-wicket-keeping-helmet-steel-grille-p228[/url]
Aside from the shortened peak, there's not much difference to their normal helmets. We couldn't help but notice that the other specialist helmet manufacturers don't yet offer specific wicket keeping helmets, and Aero's is very expensive, so there's potentially a gap in the market here...
[url=http://www.itsjustcricket.co.uk]www.itsjustcricket.co.uk[/url]
Does it go down futher at the back to protect the base of the skull?
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it doesnt go down as far i thought...
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Goes the other way by curving up so that the shell doesn't dig into ur neck....this area was pointed out as an area needing attention by the ICC as ur natural reaction is to turn ur head and would therefore exposure the bottom of ur neck
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few reason when your keeping and your crouched down i find the helmets dont let enough light in.
Would there be a market for a transparent helmet? ???
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I had an aero mask but could not get on with it at all, found it hugely uncomfortable. Sold that and got an Albion lid which I found quite comfy and offered better visibility for me than the masuri. Changing to ayrtek soon though
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i find a helmet restricts my view,and just feels like its weighing me down
man up and just stick a gumshield in to protect to pearly whites. anything else in the face can be dealt with aha
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Sadly the vast majority of pitches I play on don't allow for such confidence, taking one in the eye is not something I would like to experience either!
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took one in the cheek last season, wasnt soo much the impact of the ball that did the damage, but the seam cut my face
i mya have been lucky in my experience tho only hit 2 or 3 times to slow ish seamers so its just about bearable
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Yea I have only been hit once in the mouth when the ball flicked off the top off the ball to a medium pacer. Never wore a lid until the last year or so now that I have a mortgage and need to be able to work! Also pitches round my way seem to be worse than ever and I have taken to standing up to a lot more bowlers, all but one who is an absolute scattergun!
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I had a top edged cut hit me a couple of years back, it burst through the gap between peak and grill (on the closest setting) that cracked my cheek bone and was unable to see out of that eye for about a week, i hate to think of the damage that would have caused had the helmet not taken some of the impact, for those reasons im in a lid!
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i imagine if i suffered something as serious as that,then i too would be in a lid from that point onwards
fingers crossed
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i imagine if i suffered something as serious as that,then i too would be in a lid from that point onwards
fingers crossed
That's ridiculous. Be pro-active not reactive, go and get yourself an Arytek!
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Does it go down futher at the back to protect the base of the skull?
That's right, as Masuri would say, there is a scalloped back rim - their reasoning being that it gives freedom of movement when in the crouch position.
As I've said before, I'm not a wicket keeper, but if a highly regarded, specialist helmet manufacturer is making a helmet specific to wicket keeping that's half the price of the alternatives on the market, I would know what I'd go for...
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When I said "that's right" I meant to Ayrtek's comment. It clearly doesn't go down as far due to this "scalloping"... Still trying to get my head around this quoting thing on here!
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Thaks for everyone's thoughts, i might give a few a go!
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i imagine if i suffered something as serious as that,then i too would be in a lid from that point onwards
fingers crossed
ive been hit a few times still dont ware won, hate keeping it a lid
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ive been hit a few times still dont ware won, hate keeping it a lid
And it hasn't affected your spelling or your tourettes fella! ;)
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LIKE haha :D
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pffftt am just dumb
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I Personally Use A Black Titanium Masuri And Its Just Perfect For Keeping In... IMHO
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Been keeping for a few years with my Masuri, wanting to he an Ayrtek for this season...thoughts for keeping?
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I've just switched from an Albion to an Ayrtek mate and really like it, I never did like the Masuri for keeping though so I believe as with most things it is very much down to personal opinion.
Only downside I would say on the Ayrtek is that it is slightly more fiddly to undo and redo the strap on it when wearing inners than my Albion was but this may be something I get used to in time.
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i keep with my batting helmet and i have to keep with one on because im only a junior but i dont have to wear one when standing back , tried it for a few games and no helmet feels good but i will always wear a helmet when standing up
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I have an Aero KPR2 mask.
Took me ages to get it as are discontinued now, had to buy off ebay in the end.
Only used it once for 1 over.
As is really awkward to wear and feels uncomfortable and vision is poor due to a vertical metal bar virtually in the eyeline.
Not sure whether to persevere with it.
What do users of this mask think about it, did you find it took long to get used to?
Am thinking of getting that hockey-type GN one or a Masuri WK helmet instead?
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On a slightly different note, I read somewhere that the grille helps to pick up the length, if you are 'tuned' in to the lid (as I have been wearing one from a young age), then there is a bonus with the lid, which will improve aspects of keeping.
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Wore my Ayrtek for keeping yesterday. Found it better than my Gray Nicolls. Our home track for once was a bit unpredictable and the two openers were batting well out the crease so it would have been rude not to stand up to the quicks (well as quick as we get in our 1st's)
Still wary of losing sight of the ball down the leg side. Perseverence is the key...........I think.
P.S, both openers were just as effective on the crease as they were a foot out of it :)
But I would say the Ayrtek is a cracking helmet to keep in as well as bat in.
On a lighter note, I got sledged by the opening bat when the Ayrtek came out ' thats a bit posh mate'
Good banter though ;)
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Will definately check out the Ayrtek now I have got rid of my Aero. Toss up between Ayrtek and Masuri WK lid at the moment. Hopefully will try before I buy this time! Plus can use them for batting too, so will be a more cost-effective choice that having a batting lid and an Aero.