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Title: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: HiddenTalent on January 10, 2012, 08:38:32 PM
Comment if you like, only the first net session since end of season.
Compliments and fair criticism are both appreciated.
 :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XnHM0Zic_s
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: Simmy on January 10, 2012, 08:45:02 PM
not bad :)

but not really challenging ur skills when ur just getting half volleys and its obv you are a good driver of the ball
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: Aswani Cricket on January 10, 2012, 08:45:52 PM
Move that front foot across a bit more :)
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: HiddenTalent on January 10, 2012, 08:47:03 PM
not bad :)

but not really challenging ur skills when ur just getting half volleys and its obv you are a good driver of the ball



Sure mate, just slowly getting used to feeling the ball on bat again to start with.
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: 19reading87 on January 10, 2012, 08:51:48 PM
Decent driver of the ball mate, would like to see few other shots off the body etc...

What lid and bat you using btw??
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: HiddenTalent on January 10, 2012, 08:55:14 PM
Thanks mate, videos of different shots will also be taken soon.
Masuri helmet and Warsop marlin bat.
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: pacman75cricket on January 10, 2012, 09:31:38 PM
Agree with getting that foot further across, as front foot goes to about middle/ middle & off.

You may want to try closing that stance.  I used to have an open stance similar & was recommended to close up & when I did that it helped considerably.(Good coach from warwickshire I think)

Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: Buzz on January 10, 2012, 09:59:39 PM
I found myself watching the guy in the net next to you - he was offering some good value!

Personally I wouldn't change too much you have a nice tall set up and a natural way of playing.
I think you are starting too far outside the leg stump you outside eye is not over off stump, which is why you may be struggling to reach some of the gentle half vollies being lobbed at you and will cause you trouble when leaving the ball.
Other than that it is a very friendly way to start your winter nets!

sorry to say I am not sure I agree with all the comments above :o ;)

but it is great to get a nice technique question, it has been a while :)
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: pacman75cricket on January 10, 2012, 10:20:27 PM
Start of many I would think Buzz as pre-season training kicks in.

Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: mad_abt_cricket on January 11, 2012, 10:07:38 AM
I found myself watching the guy in the net next to you - he was offering some good value!

Personally I wouldn't change too much you have a nice tall set up and a natural way of playing.
I think you are starting too far outside the leg stump you outside eye is not over off stump, which is why you may be struggling to reach some of the gentle half vollies being lobbed at you and will cause you trouble when leaving the ball.
Other than that it is a very friendly way to start your winter nets!

sorry to say I am not sure I agree with all the comments above :o ;)

but it is great to get a nice technique question, it has been a while :)

I noticed the same.
you are trying to reach out to balls outside the offstump away from the body.

May be you make a  slight shuffle with your backfoot slightly across to the middle stump ( just before the ball is delivered) and then move your front foot towards to ball. It might help you to be in a better position to drive or leave the ball outside the off stump.
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: Buzz on January 11, 2012, 10:14:24 AM
May be you make a  slight shuffle with your backfoot slightly across to the middle stump ( just before the ball is delivered) and then move your front foot towards to ball. It might help you to be in a better position to drive or leave the ball outside the off stump.
nnnoooooo keep your stillness and simple technique - don't increase your movement!!
Just make sure your guard is in the right place!

by doing "a  slight shuffle with your backfoot slightly across to the middle stump " you run the risk of opening yourself up making it harder to get your foot across to the pitch of the ball.

your movement should be led by your head and eyes, not your feet, which is why I push this mantra.

sorry to dissagree!!

keep your technique as simple as possible - start in the right place then there is less that can go wrong.
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: essexarsenal on January 11, 2012, 10:26:02 AM
Get some pics up of that Marlin please mate. My warsop should be ready in a few days time.

Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: ianbuchanan on January 11, 2012, 10:31:37 AM
Again, I would just say get that front foot closer to the ball if you can... Although I can't talk as I'm awful do doing the same thing! I end up not getting close enough to the ball, leaning back and hitting the ball in the air which isn't ideal... Unless you're confident enough of clearing the field!
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: Simmy on January 11, 2012, 10:38:56 AM
Again, I would just say get that front foot closer to the ball if you can... Although I can't talk as I'm awful do doing the same thing! I end up not getting close enough to the ball, leaning back and hitting the ball in the air which isn't ideal... Unless you're confident enough of clearing the field!

nowt up with that mate!

didnt u hit insane amount of 6's last year?

so u must be good at it :P
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: ianbuchanan on January 11, 2012, 10:54:54 AM
Haha, I'm lucky because I've got a decent bat! But got out too many times in this way :(
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: Canners on January 11, 2012, 11:09:08 AM
HT do you play for Writtle or just net there?
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: mad_abt_cricket on January 11, 2012, 11:25:34 AM
nnnoooooo keep your stillness and simple technique - don't increase your movement!!
Just make sure your guard is in the right place!

by doing "a  slight shuffle with your backfoot slightly across to the middle stump " you run the risk of opening yourself up making it harder to get your foot across to the pitch of the ball.

your movement should be led by your head and eyes, not your feet, which is why I push this mantra.

sorry to dissagree!!

keep your technique as simple as possible - start in the right place then there is less that can go wrong.



I should have used the word trigger movement instead of shuffle. Personally for me it helps a small trigger movement of my back leg towards the middle stump while facing fast bowling.

May be this video is a better explanation of what I wanted to say :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-soOsOLIGQ&feature=related
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: Buzz on January 11, 2012, 11:48:51 AM
trigger/shuffle - the meaning is the same - it wont help in this case - it will over complicated a simple (and decent) technique

Personally for me it helps a small trigger movement of my back leg towards the middle stump while facing fast bowling.
how are you out most often to fast bowling doing this?
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: mad_abt_cricket on January 11, 2012, 01:14:27 PM
trigger/shuffle - the meaning is the same - it wont help in this case - it will over complicated a simple (and decent) technique
how are you out most often to fast bowling doing this?

Recently getting bowled quite a number of times :)
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: Buzz on January 11, 2012, 01:25:47 PM
Recently getting bowled quite a number of times :)
playing down the wrong line per chance? ;)
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: Canners on January 11, 2012, 01:42:34 PM
Listen to buzz

It will only do you good, he single handedly changed my cricket last season for the better
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: mad_abt_cricket on January 11, 2012, 01:47:36 PM
Listen to buzz

It will only do you good, he single handedly changed my cricket last season for the better

I am listening :)

In recent times I have got this tendency to cut / glide the ball too close to the off stump, lead to my downfall.
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: Kulli on January 11, 2012, 01:52:47 PM
I am listening :)

In recent times I have got this tendency to cut / glide the ball too close to the off stump, lead to my downfall.

I do this all the time (and I don't trigger, I just can't bat very well), always out cutting/gliding balls that are too full and too straight.
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: Buzz on January 11, 2012, 01:58:38 PM
I am listening :)

In recent times I have got this tendency to cut / glide the ball too close to the off stump, lead to my downfall.
I do this all the time (and I don't trigger, I just can't bat very well), always out cutting/gliding balls that are too full and too straight.
is the because you aren't confident working the ball off the front foot for singles and looking to force the pace?
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: Colesy on January 11, 2012, 02:10:43 PM
Just wondering, are you out LBW a lot?
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: Buzz on January 11, 2012, 02:21:52 PM
Just wondering, are you out LBW a lot?
a trigger to an open stance - so back and across usually leads to a few ct keeper or bowled due to the alignment being wrong and not being able to get into line so easily

a back and across plus a front foot movement usually leads to lbw's as you have moved too far across your crease and can't play the line of the ball so well - or it leads to ct mid on. I have had a load of trouble with this in the past, as has Canners.
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: Kulli on January 11, 2012, 02:24:18 PM
is the because you aren't confident working the ball off the front foot for singles and looking to force the pace?
Pretty hard to give a reason to be honest, I'm much stronger through the offside on the front foot than anywhere else, but my bowling's always taken me to such a level above my batting that I've never really batted outside the bottom 3 and thought about thinks like that before. Now I'm in Norway and the standards a lot lower I really want to work on my batting this winter and start scoring some runs.
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: mad_abt_cricket on January 11, 2012, 02:45:17 PM
a trigger to an open stance - so back and across usually leads to a few ct keeper or bowled due to the alignment being wrong and not being able to get into line so easily

a back and across plus a front foot movement usually leads to lbw's as you have moved too far across your crease and can't play the line of the ball so well - or it leads to ct mid on. I have had a load of trouble with this in the past, as has Canners.

For me it happens when I get overly aggressive. My two strong shots are either reach to the pitch of the ball and loft it straight over the bowler's head or if it is dropped short, cut/late cut/ glide/ pull. If I commit myself stepping out and not able to reach the ball, instead of going defensive, I try to glide the ball ( Seemingly I am misjudging the line of the ball as I am trying to glide a ball from the stumps which I should play with a straight bat.)
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: mad_abt_cricket on January 11, 2012, 02:49:27 PM
For me it happens when I get overly aggressive. My two strong shots are either reach to the pitch of the ball and loft it straight over the bowler's head or if it is dropped short, cut/late cut/ glide/ pull. If I commit myself stepping out and not able to reach the ball, instead of going defensive, I try to glide the ball ( Seemingly I am misjudging the line of the ball as I am trying to glide a ball from the stumps which I should play with a straight bat.)


Something like this:

http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa367/Sudeep_Thakur/9.jpg
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: mad_abt_cricket on January 11, 2012, 02:51:43 PM
Something like this:

[url]http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa367/Sudeep_Thakur/9.jpg[/url]


http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa367/Sudeep_Thakur/5.jpg
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: tim2000s on January 11, 2012, 02:52:21 PM
Something like this:

[url]http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa367/Sudeep_Thakur/9.jpg[/url]

Now that's a really awkward looking shot...
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: Buzz on January 11, 2012, 02:52:50 PM
arrh that shot - stright from the coaching manual ;)
Looks as if you have been put in two minds by the length of the bowling and haven't committed to being forward or back.
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: Buzz on January 11, 2012, 02:53:40 PM
Now that's a really awkward looking shot...
would you have one or two gullies for that shot Tim?
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: mad_abt_cricket on January 11, 2012, 02:59:02 PM
arrh that shot - stright from the coaching manual ;)
Looks as if you have been put in two minds by the length of the bowling and haven't committed to being forward or back.


Yes that's true.

would you have one or two gullies for that shot Tim?


For rest of the fielding positions :)

Some more pictures:

http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa367/Sudeep_Thakur/8.jpg
http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa367/Sudeep_Thakur/7.jpg
http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa367/Sudeep_Thakur/6.jpg
http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa367/Sudeep_Thakur/4.jpg
http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa367/Sudeep_Thakur/3.jpg
http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa367/Sudeep_Thakur/2.jpg
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: tim2000s on January 11, 2012, 03:00:06 PM
would you have one or two gullies for that shot Tim?

Two gullies, 4th and 5th slip....
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: Buzz on January 11, 2012, 03:15:10 PM
Yes that's true.

For rest of the fielding positions :)

Some more pictures:

[url]http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa367/Sudeep_Thakur/8.jpg[/url]
[url]http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa367/Sudeep_Thakur/7.jpg[/url]
[url]http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa367/Sudeep_Thakur/6.jpg[/url]
[url]http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa367/Sudeep_Thakur/4.jpg[/url]
[url]http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa367/Sudeep_Thakur/3.jpg[/url]
[url]http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa367/Sudeep_Thakur/2.jpg[/url]



Loving the action shots and the total commitment to attacking!! :)
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: mad_abt_cricket on January 11, 2012, 03:20:57 PM
Unfortunately, only have Twenty- Twenty format here.. though naturally I like being aggressive, always wanted to play longer version of the game.
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: mad_abt_cricket on January 11, 2012, 03:25:55 PM
A rare defensive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkVupy4wtFw&lr=1&feature=mhum
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: HiddenTalent on January 11, 2012, 07:13:21 PM
HT do you play for Writtle or just net there?

No i just net there.
Title: Re: Me batting at indoor nets
Post by: Colesy on January 11, 2012, 07:15:50 PM
a trigger to an open stance - so back and across usually leads to a few ct keeper or bowled due to the alignment being wrong and not being able to get into line so easily

a back and across plus a front foot movement usually leads to lbw's as you have moved too far across your crease and can't play the line of the ball so well - or it leads to ct mid on. I have had a load of trouble with this in the past, as has Canners.

Sorry Buzz, was intended for Hidden Talent just because it looks like his front foot is a bit planted with the bat having to come down at an angle.