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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: Johnny on January 22, 2012, 06:41:44 PM

Title: Flat faces
Post by: Johnny on January 22, 2012, 06:41:44 PM
Seperate topic for this discussion / debate.

Personally I really like them. My laver was the first bat I had which had one.

This sounds daft, but it almost makes the bat feel wider, as though you are presenting a bigger surface to the ball.

No doubt when I get my new bat for 2012 I'll go for a flat face again
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: Buzz on January 22, 2012, 06:45:13 PM
great minds... I have deleted my topic, but had said...

prompted by discussion elsewhere what are peoples views on flat faces on the bat blade.

it seems that an increasing number of manufacturers are making bats like this, of and the seem popular with professionals

personally I am a fan, an I am not sure why.
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: johnnyw on January 22, 2012, 06:47:34 PM
The samples I got from India all have flat faces and I like them. The only thing is that you have to spend time knocking the edges right as they are very square.

The shamrock bats will have flat faces :)
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: Johnny on January 22, 2012, 06:47:34 PM
How many batoff bats to date have been flat?
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: FvanN on January 22, 2012, 06:48:38 PM
I like the way they look, think I might have to have a look into one.
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on January 22, 2012, 06:49:10 PM
My ultra has a flat face where as the other 2 laver bats do not.

(http://i752.photobucket.com/albums/xx165/d7bow/3efe0c7d.jpg)
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: Buzz on January 22, 2012, 06:50:14 PM
How many batoff bats to date have been flat?

the laver ultra and the Charlie French, I have also tried one other bat with a flat face.
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: pacman75cricket on January 22, 2012, 06:52:25 PM
Had a Bradbury with really flat face which was a really good performing bat. 

Was not too keen on square edges as though potential for damage.
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: langer17 on January 22, 2012, 06:52:44 PM
The flat face also makes the edges a couple of mm bigger. Hence why it seems to appear on bats with bigger edges.
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: yvk3103 on January 22, 2012, 06:59:09 PM
I agree with Johnny. The flat face bat create a bit of visual deception and look wider/bigger. Personally, having acquired a couple of flat face bats recently, I have fallen in love with them. The edges do seem to bit more venerable, but a few minutes of pressing them against the bathtub edges does the trick.

Also for those looking for a big edge bat, the flat face bats are a good option as the flat face bats will have 3-5mm bigger edges on them as compared with a bat with curved/round faced (like a Newbery or Salix). No wonder the likes of GN have made all their bats flat faced this year to deliver bigger bats for lesser weights.

I think it is difficult to get the correct pressing on the flat face bats. Have sen some where the middle just goes in like a crater and the edges become highly exaggerated. (not seen this yet on a Bradbury though).
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: PM7 on January 22, 2012, 07:00:07 PM
Apart from making the edges appear bigger what are the advantages of having a flat face with regards to playing  your shots?

Other than  my CF bat ive always preferred a big bowed profile which apparently helps with lofted shots, not that I play many :)
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: gabbers on January 22, 2012, 07:00:47 PM
Personally I much prefer rounder faces but it does seem that a lot of bat makers are going for the flatter faces. There was a good article which Hayden discussed the difference between flat and round faces somewhere I'll try and find it a sec.
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: gabbers on January 22, 2012, 07:02:19 PM
Here it is http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=8070.0  :)
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: Cover_Drive on January 22, 2012, 07:05:45 PM
I'm not too sure but is it true that a flat face bat can't have a bow?
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: langer17 on January 22, 2012, 07:07:16 PM
Stuart Kranzbuhler talks about the flat faces on the GN bats over here in Australia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXM-g8K5pKw
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: Johnny on January 22, 2012, 07:07:27 PM
CD no, that's not true.

I've never had problems with the edges, but then I always edge tape and scuff my bats
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: langer17 on January 22, 2012, 07:10:12 PM
CD no, that's not true.

I've never had problems with the edges, but then I always edge tape and scuff my bats

JM told me that fibreglass/edge tape is only good if it's wrapped around the bat, and that putting it on the edges isn't necessary. This was 3 years ago.

I still do it every now and again with my bats though, lol.
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: kaustav on January 22, 2012, 07:10:19 PM
Has anyone ever felt that maneuvering the singles and nudges are easier if the face of the bat is a bit flatter?
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: Johnny on January 22, 2012, 07:12:36 PM
...you'll have to ask a Nigel Nudge'n'prod
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: Buzz on January 22, 2012, 07:19:29 PM
Has anyone ever felt that maneuvering the singles and nudges are easier if the face of the bat is a bit flatter?

in the nets I have found this, bit can't confirm for sure.
I have also found, as I said earlier, that if you slightly miss time a drive it still goes more where you are aiming, rather than going too square.
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: langer17 on January 22, 2012, 07:24:34 PM
in the nets I have found this, bit can't confirm for sure.
I have also found, as I said earlier, that if you slightly miss time a drive it still goes more where you are aiming, rather than going too square.


That's what Stuart Kranzbuhler says about flat faces in this video, in regards to the ball going where you want it to go:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXM-g8K5pKw
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: Joe on January 22, 2012, 07:33:52 PM
I don't really notice any different batting with a flat faced bat or a normal one. I just bat. Get out.
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: Cover_Drive on January 22, 2012, 07:36:15 PM
CD no, that's not true.

I've never had problems with the edges, but then I always edge tape and scuff my bats

Cheers mate I just had a look at my Oblivion and it has flat face and bow so you're correct :D
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: 100 not out on January 22, 2012, 07:43:09 PM
ultimately it is just a wood redistribution exercise.
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: tim2000s on January 22, 2012, 07:46:57 PM
I don't really notice any different batting with a flat faced bat or a normal one. I just bat. Badly!
Like
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: FattusCattus on January 22, 2012, 07:56:16 PM
in the nets I have found this, bit can't confirm for sure.
I have also found, as I said earlier, that if you slightly miss time a drive it still goes more where you are aiming, rather than going too square.

What is this 'nudging a single' that you speak of?
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: roco on January 22, 2012, 08:04:41 PM
How many makers can press a flat face well if asked though
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: Buzz on January 22, 2012, 08:34:43 PM
What is this 'nudging a single' that you speak of?
it is what proper batsmen do when facing high quality left arm spin.
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: FattusCattus on January 22, 2012, 08:53:04 PM
Ahhh - I will select my flatest face should I be required to lower myself to such a unpleasant form of scoring.
Title: Re: Flat faces
Post by: Joe on January 22, 2012, 08:56:46 PM
How about a concave face?