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Equipment => Bats => Bat Making => Topic started by: Cover_Drive on January 27, 2012, 02:22:13 PM

Title: Bat Making Tools for Starters
Post by: Cover_Drive on January 27, 2012, 02:22:13 PM
Right so I was wondering if I get part made clefts from UK then what tools to I need to make bats at home?

Just want to do this for fun and weekend activity can someone list the tools I will need so then I'll calculate how much is the cost and anything!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Bat Making Tools for Starters
Post by: Fezballoh on January 27, 2012, 04:52:56 PM
You'll need a draw knife, a spoke shave and some kind of smoothing plane for starters. Then Something to sand down the bat with to finish. If you do well you'll get all three of these tools of reasonalble quality for under £50.
Title: Re: Bat Making Tools for Starters
Post by: Bruce on January 27, 2012, 05:22:01 PM
£50 each or for the set?
Title: Re: Bat Making Tools for Starters
Post by: tushar sehgal on January 27, 2012, 05:25:53 PM
I think he meant 50 for all three..
Title: Re: Bat Making Tools for Starters
Post by: Bruce on January 27, 2012, 05:29:40 PM
Interesting....
Title: Re: Bat Making Tools for Starters
Post by: Joe on January 27, 2012, 05:32:44 PM
From scratch, including a cleft it's cost me about £150. I paid £22.50 for a drawknife from this website: www.thetoolbox.org.uk (http://www.thetoolbox.org.uk) (email the guy, he has quite a few drawknives at good prices). I got a Kunz no. 50 concave spokeshave new from eBay for £19.98 http://tinyurl.com/77n8wbs. (http://tinyurl.com/77n8wbs.) I picked up a few planes, got a cheap silverline spokeshave and a Black & Decker workmate and voila.
Title: Re: Bat Making Tools for Starters
Post by: tushar sehgal on January 27, 2012, 05:56:59 PM
Hey CD,

Where are you planning on getting a cleft from, I was looking at H4L and its around £75.00 for grade 3, additional 5 for grade 2 & 15 from grade 1,,,its pressed and handled if you ask for it...

Tushar
Title: Re: Bat Making Tools for Starters
Post by: Cover_Drive on January 27, 2012, 06:03:01 PM
Ah okay cheers Joe, actually I'm not too sure if I can order from a UK website because those knife and sharp objects might cause problem in customs maybe lol. I'm not too sure on this area actually I will try to find some here and if I don't find them here then I'll try UK most likely :D
Title: Re: Bat Making Tools for Starters
Post by: Cover_Drive on January 27, 2012, 06:04:22 PM
Hey CD,

Where are you planning on getting a cleft from, I was looking at H4L and its around £75.00 for grade 3, additional 5 for grade 2 & 15 from grade 1,,,its pressed and handled if you ask for it...

Tushar


Hey Tushar,

I was most likely on planning on getting from S&J Cricket (I know Sam and have dealt with him so I feel comfortable with him lol), they have Grade 1 for 85 Pounds, see here;

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=15413.0

Tushar have you gotten all of the tools with you?
Title: Re: Bat Making Tools for Starters
Post by: peplow on January 27, 2012, 06:15:57 PM
I'll have full sets coming in soon. Lower grade part made to begin on with drawknife, spokeshave and smoothing plane. The basics needed!! Watch this.space.
Title: Re: Bat Making Tools for Starters
Post by: tushar sehgal on January 27, 2012, 06:49:23 PM
Hey Tushar,

I was most likely on planning on getting from S&J Cricket (I know Sam and have dealt with him so I feel comfortable with him lol), they have Grade 1 for 85 Pounds, see here;

[url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=15413.0[/url]

Tushar have you gotten all of the tools with you?


I will need to get a drawknife and a spokeshave, I use my friends workshop whenever i want to do some work and he's got a good collection of tools. I will prolly run over to canadian tire to pick up whatever extra i need,,,

I have dealt with Sam too, lovely guy so will prolly go that way too.... just trying to figure out a few things before i go place the order
Title: Re: Bat Making Tools for Starters
Post by: tushar sehgal on January 27, 2012, 06:50:44 PM
Also I love the powersander, i think it can do anything :) just takes a little longer but i found i had more control when shaping the bat handle/shoulder and less risk of a mistake...
Title: Re: Bat Making Tools for Starters
Post by: Cover_Drive on January 28, 2012, 01:00:48 AM
I will need to get a drawknife and a spokeshave, I use my friends workshop whenever i want to do some work and he's got a good collection of tools. I will prolly run over to canadian tire to pick up whatever extra i need,,,

Do Canadian Tire have those batmaking tools?
Title: Re: Bat Making Tools for Starters
Post by: Fezballoh on January 28, 2012, 07:44:11 AM
CD: By all reports, North America is a better place to find woodwroking tools than the UK. Drawknives are probably the hardest to find of the basic tools that you need as they are specialist tools for furniture makers, coopers, people who work with green timber and pod shavers! Only four jobs which not many people do anymore. It just means you'll have to buy one on 'tinternet instead of getting one in the shop is all.

Good luck fella.
Title: Re: Bat Making Tools for Starters
Post by: tushar sehgal on January 29, 2012, 03:18:26 AM
Do Canadian Tire have those batmaking tools?

Well you can get planes and spokeshaves from Canadian Tire, Only thing i dont think they have is a drawknife but i am sure i can find it or get it made..
Title: Re: Bat Making Tools for Starters
Post by: tushar sehgal on January 29, 2012, 03:23:16 AM
Spoke Shave $20 CDN
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/6/Tools/HandTools/ChiselsPunchesFiles/PRD~0576294P/Mastercraft+Spoke+Shaver.jsp?locale=en

Planes $12-$50
http://www.canadiantire.ca/search/search_results.jsp?bmForm=form_endeca_search&bmFormID=1327807208918&bmUID=1327807208918&bmIsForm=true&bmPrevTemplate=%2FAST%2Fbrowse%2F6%2FTools%2FHandTools%2FChiselsPunchesFiles%2FPRD%7E0576294P%2FMastercraft%2BSpoke%2BShaver.jsp&bmHidden=OMNITURE_FROM&OMNITURE_FROM=Search&bmHidden=event26&event26=true&bmText=quick_search_term&quick_search_term=planes&bmSubmit=quick_search&bmHidden=PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443256617&bmHidden=FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396672886

and they have waxing/buffing materials
Title: Re: Bat Making Tools for Starters
Post by: Cover_Drive on January 29, 2012, 03:47:33 AM
Cheers will google the picture and see how it looks like.

Then will go to Canadian Tire and buy them :D
Title: Re: Bat Making Tools for Starters
Post by: tushar sehgal on January 29, 2012, 03:56:46 AM
Cheers will google the picture and see how it looks like.

Then will go to Canadian Tire and buy them :D

I think #4 plane & block plane are 2 that u'll need. Check with one of the bat gurus here and they should be able to tell u,,,

also walmart, rona, home hardware, kent all might carry these tools...check for prices and some might be cheaper than Canadian tire
Title: Re: Bat Making Tools for Starters
Post by: Cover_Drive on January 29, 2012, 06:00:24 AM
Cheers buddy will do :)

Thanks I appreciate it!
Title: Re: Bat Making Tools for Starters
Post by: tushar sehgal on January 30, 2012, 02:59:05 PM
One more thing :)

For waxing the bat this stuff is great on wood...also make sure there is absolutely no dust on the bat when you start waxing, use a damp paper towel to clean the bat after sanding and then use wax

http://www.homehardware.ca/en/rec/index.htm/Indoor-Living/Home-Commercial-Cleaning/Cleaners/Furniture-Polish/Cleaners/PRESERVER-WAX-WOOD-FEED-N-WAX-16OZ/_/N-ntkgu/R-I4548388

I got this from someone in email a while back..

How should I apply the wax?
Wax is best applied to a clean surface, wipe over the surface with either some pure turpentine (not turps substitute) or Liberon Wax & Polish remover on a cloth,  this will remove the old dirty wax. I always recommend to use a Tack cloth before applying the wax, this is to remove the microscopic dust particles that will otherwise get trapped under the surface, I normally use Liberon Tack cloths which I find are excellent and not greasy, or at the very least use a damp cloth and then allow the wood to naturally dry. As an old master craftsman once told me many years ago, "remove the dust you cant see before you apply any finish, and that is the main difference between an amateur and professional finish, because the tiny specks of dust will stand out like a sore thumb"
 
Apply the wax with either a cotton lint free rag or use Liberon 0000 wire wool.  I make no apologies for saying liberon 0000 wire wool, because Liberon is the best wire wool in the world and no other wire wool even comes close.  Liberon wire wool will not scratch the surface in anyway, in fact it will honestly improve the surface by removing any light marks. Apply the wax sparingly, using light, circular motions going in the direction against the grain. For difficult to reach areas like spindles or carved areas use some cut up cotton rags.   Allow the wax to dry for about 10  minutes,  don't rush, this is important! wait for the wax to dry, otherwise all you are doing is moving the wax around.   Then buff with a cotton rag or use a Liberon furniture brush or a Liberon wax polishing Brush.  It is much easier and quicker to buff with a Liberon Brush rather than a cotton rag. Then leave the piece for about an hour for the wax harden and then re-apply another thin coat of wax, again allow the wax to dry and buff again.  Then leave the piece overnight and re apply the wax, allow to dry and buff again.