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Equipment => Bats => Reviews => Topic started by: pacman75cricket on February 20, 2012, 08:46:58 PM
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Sorry guys but thought I would start a quick review as loving this bat. I know pics have already been posted elsewhere(delete if duplication).
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Bat weighed 2lb 9.5oz when this bat left Andy. I have since replaced grip with Combigrip & added scuff sheet so probably about 2lb10oz ish. Bat has mid-low middle(Andy said that is good for shape).
The bat has decent edge size about 32/33 mm but really impressed by spine height when compared with edge size. Must say loving the shape. Cant believe the size.
Picks up really nicely although can feel lower middle but picks up well all the same.
Bat was sounding really nice off the mallet all over except right at the toe(to be expected)
So had first net session with the bat yesterday on the bowling machine about 15 mins or so (on a full length to try & get feet moving sorry Buzz feeding favourite shot).
Anyway the bat felt really nice on pickup hit a few drives middled a few :o seemed to fly off the middle. Will find out more when used real cricket balls but first impressions are this is gonna be an absolute gun.
Just needed to reduce user error. >:(
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I'm waiting for Andy to make and send mine down to me....expecting a massive friends and family discount too :)
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I waited a while but definitely worth it. :D
Thought you were using you own bats.
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Haha yeah I do but it's a running theme Andy and I have haggling for discount ;)
And they do look like my kind of bat!!!
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Want one!!!!!!!
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Want one!!!!!!!
Don't blame you already thinking will need to get it copied @ some point
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Me too, love safs
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I'm waiting for Andy to make and send mine down to me....expecting a massive friends and family discount too :)
Are you the son he never knew he had?
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Haha yeah I do but it's a running theme Andy and I have haggling for discount ;)
And they do look like my kind of bat!!!
if yours is half as good sure you won't be disappointed
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SAF have got some great bats, love mine... :D
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Erus number 0121.....a beauty in looks and performance....voted best bat at my club last year. Pressed by the best and shaped by a genius! ;)
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Looks good and hope it serves you well!
Not sure if its my eyes or was made like this deliberately but isn't the peak of edges down compared to highest point of spine which is a bit up? Aren't they suppose to be at same place?
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Supposed to be like that ist Andy's offset edge so as to extend the middle :D
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Looks good and hope it serves you well!
Not sure if its my eyes or was made like this deliberately but isn't the peak of edges down compared to highest point of spine which is a bit up? Aren't they suppose to be at same place?
apparently it improves pick-up
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Supposed to be like that ist Andy's offset edge so as to extend the middle :D
Yup, it means the pick up is lighter but manages the mass distribution better. It looks extreme on these hades but by god it works well!
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Lovely looking sticks, loved the old stickers though, would love a set!
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Love the profile of that bat, definitely on the list of bats I need to try at some point.
It looks an absolute pearler!
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better hurry up wilkie, the hades is a limited run it seems
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So what is the difference in profile between the Mechten and the Hades?
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the offset edge .. you cn see fro mthe photos, the deepest point of the edge is not in the same place as the deepest part of the spine , on the mechten, as with most bats it is
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better hurry up wilkie, the hades is a limited run it seems
Limited to 200 bats
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the offset edge .. you cn see fro mthe photos, the deepest point of the edge is not in the same place as the deepest part of the spine , on the mechten, as with most bats it is
Nope, the mechten also has an offset edge. It is not as pronounced though!
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Limited to 200 bats
200 per year.
This is due to the additional time taken to make the bat.
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200 per year.
This is due to the additional time taken to make the bat.
Speaking to Andy, 200 in total. It is the pinnacle of the combination of his experiments at a point in time. Next year, it won't be a hades...
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Crap! That means I have to buy one soonish. Or will the successor to the Hades perhaps be even better?
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Quote from: Rob on February 02, 2012, 05:53:49 AM
How come the 'hades' is being limited to 200? It is that a marketing ploy?
In a word... no.
The Hades shape took a long time get get right so that it performs in a certain way. Its characteristics make it a destructive bat.
But making this bat takes longer, so as we can only make a certain amount of total bats per year we limited this shape to 200.
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A beautifully ambiguous statement...
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Techie bit
http://www.safbats.co.uk/BAT-BLOG/cricket-bat/so-why-the-hades
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Techie bit
[url]http://www.safbats.co.uk/BAT-BLOG/cricket-bat/so-why-the-hades[/url]
The only thing I skeptical about is "Basically I’ve extended the middle at no cost"
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It took me 5 minutes looking at the profile pictures to realise what makes this bat different!
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I believe this really works don't take my work for it look at the last batoff everyone loves the bat/profile
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It's like an optical illusion! Edges say low middle, spine says high middle!
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It's like an optical illusion! Edges say low middle, spine says high middle!
When in reality it is all middle. Lovely bats to use.
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I would agree....long middle.
It was a supreme bat at the batoff! A SAF for every kitbag!
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This is the Stig testing Marcus' Hades, which is, by all accounts a winning bat!!
Fattus' and Tim's commentary is entertaining to say the least...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htA1sf5-opk
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Oh Gawd.... It's the batdom conversation.... More innovation from SAF!
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did someone say that the guy batting in the youtube vid is a pro?
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did someone say that the guy batting in the youtube vid is a pro?
people have said lots of things about the guy batting in the video. Not all complimentary!
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people have said lots of things about the guy batting in the video. Not all complimentary!
Especially after he binned my Laver...
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Definitely thinking about getting a Hades before the season.
Not so sure now after the service I received from just purchasing a grip.
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ordered mine + made decision to wait for new batch of willow + Andy told me would be end of Jan + this was when bat was made, delay in getting bat as weather delayed me collecting was posted in the end (bloody snow >:(
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Oh Gawd.... It's the batdom conversation.... More innovation from SAF!
Yes 3 things come from this recording -
i) I am a Marketing Genius
ii) I am a nerdy kit-knob
iii) I really want a Hades
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Batoff for SAF Hades only battle.for the winner :o
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just got my first saf origin and it is a gun off a bat i have had a lot off custome made bats and this is the best by far and at a good price just ordered the hades as well
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You won't be disaponted with the Hades its immense.
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just got my hades and it is the best bit off bat makeing i have ever seen
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Love mine what was your spec + let us know how it goes
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just got my hades and it is the best bit off bat makeing i have ever seen
Some pics mate :), mine is on the way too so waiting with excitement :)
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Iv seen Mr C's and I liked it but wasn't allowed to borrow if....iv joined the waiting list :)
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Iv seen Mr C's and I liked it but wasn't allowed to borrow if....iv joined the waiting list :)
I hope you got a good discount from norbs in return for that lovely helmet you produced :)
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You've poked the bear that doesn't like the word "discount" now!!!
Fear his wrath....gggrrrrr
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You've poked the bear that doesn't like the word "discount" now!!!
Fear his wrath....gggrrrrr
Discount doesn't have to be monetary :), it could be a lovely date with Marcus sponsored by Andy or a special performance cleft hades ;)
we get a lot of grizzly bears in canada, so am armed with pepper spray :) hehehe
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I'd enjoy nothin more than a beverage with those boys mate and am only jesting,
Would love one of them there bats in my kit bag but demand means I shall have to wait ATM
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I'd enjoy nothin more than a beverage with those boys mate and am only jesting,
Would love one of them there bats in my kit bag but demand means I shall have to wait ATM
from what i have heard they are well worth the wait, not that i need to tell you that :) , hoping mine is over soon, last update was it had landed in the US..
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Worth the wait when I was speaking to Andy a few weeks ago Hades been really popular seemed all he was making @ the time
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hi mine is 2,9 11 grains and a nice bit off hearwood on the out side edge my wife put the pitures on saf facebook page
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hi i cant seem to find out how to upload pitures off my new saf bats any one help thanks
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That looks lovely mate...what the weight on yours?
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Looks really nice grains wise but I still love tjhe profile of mine.
Enjoy yours
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i sure will great bats my origin is a gun so hope the hades will be when knocked in must say they will take some beating to find a better bat
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Now that is a thing of beauty.
May you get an absolute bag full of runs with it
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lets hope started knocking it in and what a gun must say my origin is a true gun as well
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That pair looks really good must be hard to choose which one to use.
What spec is your hades
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my hades is a 2.9 11 straight grain in a pod one shape must say origin on at sat and hades on a sunday
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In keeping with the trend here is a little review of my Hades.
After reading a lot of Andy's posts and blog I had made up my mind that I had to have a bat from him :). So i looked at different profiles over and over on their site and from others, decision was to be made between Infinity and Hades, some email exchanges with Marcus and Hades was ordered.
Bat arrived yesterday, which was great as I was off work, along with some other goodies like the SAF Sleeve. This is an extremely well balanced bat, when i first picked it up it felt like they sent me the wrong weight but then i compared to some of the other bats i have and realized I was wrong. It feels fantastic off the mallet and when the ball is bounced on it. I spent the whole evening with this bat yesterday, wife was jealous, and have to say I like it more and more everytime I pick it up. Will spend a week or 2 knocking it in and try it out at nets along with the RPC.
Marcus was great to deal with too, for how busy he is, he got back to me every time I had a question or wanted to get in touch, and threw in a free goodie for good measure.
Also these SAF Sleeves are indeed sexy :), very very nice..
Now its pic time :)
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Lovely lovely stick! How is the scuff sheet? It is special one so I wonder how it is.
Did you get thick oval handle?
Hows the ping compared to other bats you have/had (assuming those when they were unknocked etc)
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Lovely lovely stick! How is the scuff sheet? It is special one so I wonder how it is.
Did you get thick oval handle?
Hows the ping compared to other bats you have/had (assuming those when they were unknocked etc)
Hey CD, I know you have been waiting for this as much as I have been :)
To be honest can't answer the scuff sheet question. It is supposed to be self healing so unless there is some damage I won't know but looks like a good quality sheet, I have 2 spares as well along with 5 puma one from liam (which should be here soon)
Handle needed another grip for my liking, not pictured, but feels good in hands now after i put another one on and yes it is oval. "Ping" is what is different on this bat, in a good way, I honestly couldn't tell it was unknocked just bouncing the ball but it was leaving seam marks, I can see a potential for a lot of bat speed generated with this bat and ball flying...just hoping my arm heals soon so i can take it nets...now just 2 bats left to arrive one from Hosk and one from Beachy :)
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Thank you very much for responding, I appreciate it :)
Yes, had been quite eager lol.
Nice nice! Hope it is your match bat this year :D
Did seam marks heal after you bounced the ball?
Wish I was in Halifax (actually correct version wish you were in TO) so I could see it in flesh. such shame lol
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Thank you very much for responding, I appreciate it :)
Yes, had been quite eager lol.
Nice nice! Hope it is your match bat this year :D
Did seam marks heal after you bounced the ball?
Wish I was in Halifax (actually correct version wish you were in TO) so I could see it in flesh. such shame lol
No they are still on the face just not as prominent, i have started with knocking in the toe so by the time i get to done with the face it should be good... as for match bat I am spoiled for choice this year between Hades & RPC plus the other 2 that haven't arrived :)
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Lovely bat Tushar, what is the weight ?
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Hope Tushy doesn't mind
Spec was 2.10lb with 2 grips
- I think it got sent with one on therefore why Tushy needed to put on the second grip
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Hope Tushy doesn't mind
Spec was 2.10lb with 2 grips
- I think it got sent with one on therefore why Tushy needed to put on the second grip
How many of teh 200 have been made now Norbs? They seem incredibly popular... And judging by Marcus' first edition, I can see why!!!
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Hope Tushy doesn't mind
Spec was 2.10lb with 2 grips
- I think it got sent with one on therefore why Tushy needed to put on the second grip
Thanks norbs. I have a question regarding the offset edge.
In SAF hades, the edge size reaches it's maximum below the spine's maximum.
If the edge size reaches it's maximum above the spine's maximum will it still be an offset edge ?
What would be the difference in these two scenarios ? Will both serve the same advantage of an offset edge?
Thank you!
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Hope the admins dont mind, if you do please delete as appropriate....
@tim - Not sure mate but I am caning through them but as you know the season is still early and other shapes do get ordered
@m_a_c - edge offset below the spine for mmoi [mass moment of inertia] and the move of centre of percussion* [techie sweetspot] based on swing weight. You'll notice they are all different with similar middle specs this is intentional due to the way willow is i.e natural
If I rasied the edge above the spine it would have no really benefit based on this profile design as mmoi lowers the cop and I get more gain from willow mass of the spine height then you do on the edge
I have blogged the bat but dont really want to add a link out of respect to the advertisers
*centre of percusssion - easiest way of explaining this is when you hit a bat and flies off the bat and you think I hardly hit it.... when your hands move neither forward nor backwards on a strong shot
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Thanks Norbs!
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Hope Tushy doesn't mind
Spec was 2.10lb with 2 grips
- I think it got sent with one on therefore why Tushy needed to put on the second grip
Hey Norbs, no I dont mind :), bat is fantastic...have had it for 2 days now spent some 10-15 mins knocking it in last night...loving it more and more...thank you for a fantastic bat..I was talking to Cover Drive and I cannot get over how light the bat feels when you pick up yet on the scale it weighs 2lbs 10.7 oz...
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Had some coaching today with quality coach a few amendments so hopewfully unleash the potential in mine she's a gun.
Paul Atkins top coaching
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Update bat is awesome T20 this week hit 2 sixes decent size straight boundary ct but carried over(over head height) I have never been a huge hitter of sixes 1 or 2 usually but 2 in one game is abit rare ct out in last over on nboundary thanks for this awesome bat Andy.
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Whats happened to the SAF Fabrica ?
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Evolved into the Origin in the new range.
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Is it pretty much identical ?
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Looking at the website appears middle elongated.
Also knowing Andy loved the shape can't imagine it changed too much but I'd speak to him.
Btw Hades is a beast
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What size range does the Hedes come in?
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Mine was ordered at 2lb 9 think upwards of that but could be wrong
Just check 2lb8oz-3lb on the website.
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Mine was ordered at 2lb 9 think upwards of that but could be wrong
Just check 2lb8oz-3lb on the website.
I dont know how big your hades is mate but my 2.10 is not a big bat, balance is nice and so is the pick up but when i first got the bat i was actually disappointed looking at it for 260GBP it had 5-6 wide grains and looked tiny...
rebound in the nets was good to ok but haven't even used it in a match and noticed the toe is starting to split... can't believe it :(...
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Drop us an email Tush we'll take a look and replace it for you if needs be we dont bite you know... No need to suffer in almost silence :) workshop@safbats.co.uk
It was 2.10 with 2 grips wasn't it basically 2lb 8oz bat but I cant really remember
OldFudger Origin is basically the same SAF Fab
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thansk Norbs, will give it some more time before anything...i understand that not all bats can be great despite the care and attention paid by the maker because willow is funny thing.
I am hoping to use it in a match this saturday and will get back to you after that...
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here are some pics of the "split", i can't get myself to call it a crack as there is no compression due to a ball hitting it etc...anyways I took the scuff sheet off and its glued, shoegooed & rescuffed now
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I did knock it in a lot too and have knocked a lot of bats so not sure if i did something wrong here...
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looks very softly pressed, needs more knocking in I'm afraid.
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That doesn't look at all pretty...........in any way.... ;)
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looks very softly pressed, needs more knocking in I'm afraid.
I have knocked it in for about an 1 every day or two over 5 weeks, couldn't/wouldn't want to anymore....ball doesn't leave any marks on the face...
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Should add here that Andy has offered me a replacement, Top Guy and great service, right up there with some of the best....
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Scored 98not out yesterday bat is sweet, stroked a lovely straight six, is a top bat.