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Equipment => Bats => Bat Making => Topic started by: Red Ink Cricket on March 14, 2012, 04:23:48 PM
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With a recent mention of bat weight i thought id see what everyones thoughts were when receiving a bat.
If you ask for a bat at say 2lb9oz. do you expect that to be fully dressed or prior to dressing?
can we ignore the pick up aspect of this. everyone has an idea on a weight range they are comfortable using regardless of pick up.
i would guess that with an average weight grip, stickers, antiscuff and maybe toe guard your looking at 3-4 oz plus onto the total?
sorry if this has been mentioned before. ive had a quick scan but didnt notice it.
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Undressed, as the grip/sticker etc weight adds superficial weight that does not affect pick up, if anything it improves it.
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I ask for the weight to be dressed with a single chevron
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I'd look at dead weight to be naked at trade, to include stickers and a chevron grip to an individual. Toe guard and facing is an optional extra and so cannot be counted in the dead weight of every bat.
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Fully dressed if buying from a brand, if a person chooses to add a second grip to it for their own personal preference then they need to factor that into the scenario and order lighter.
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When I'm buying I look at bats undressed weight.
I'm not bothered by weight of grips or stickers really, I want wood to be of specific weight.
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Dressed with 1 grip and stickers
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If buying blind, I think you have a right to expect that the weight you quote is the weight all in, with however many grips and stickers you ask for.
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If you specify you want 3 chevrons and facing included in the dead weight there is no problem, but if you presume it will include that you get problems. I tend to select a bat with stickers and grip included if someone asks for a 2.10, rather than give them a 2.10 plus 2 ounces extra.
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I would tend to ask for a weight to be with a single chev grip and normal stickers!
That way if the handle is oversized (I prefer a decent handle) then I know the weight will be as stated
If the handle is slimmer then I would put and additonal or a thicker grip on! Whilst this would inclrease the weight by an ounce or so, it would also improve the pickup as the added weight is at the top of the bat!
But I think we can all see that there is a lot of importance in quoting how you want the bat weighed (naked or dressed) if you are buying a bat!!!
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Regular chevron weighs around 1.2 ounces so if someone ask for three grips and bat to be 2.10 (all in all) that means without grips (but with stickers, toe guard etc) it would be around 2.64 region and without stickers, toe guard and scuff it will be around 2.2!!!
That would be a ladies bats lads!
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Chevrons are 1oz, slightly less when fitted as you trim off an inch.
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I should add that that would be an English grip which is only from one place and is pure latex and lighter than some imports.
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regular chevrons are 1.2 ounces....spirals are 2.1 onces so you can jump up quite a way if your not careful!
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Sorry mixed up with grams to ounces conversion, thanks for correcting me.
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I ask for 2lb8/9 dressed, which usually includes a single thin grip (usually a chevron) a scuff sheet and a normal set of stickers, so Im not sure what a bat maker would interperet a specified weight as, either dreesed or undressed? I would always specify to be on the safe side
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I ask for 2lb8/9 dressed, which usually includes a single thin grip (usually a chevron) a scuff sheet and a normal set of stickers
I don't agree that scuff sheet is included in the 'usuals' - i guess though it's just about communicating with your bat maker - as long as they realise that's what you mean, then no problems
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1 Grip and stickers, nothing else.
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1 Grip and stickers, nothing else.
^^^ as above..
i think the more bats u make the more u know how much a grip and stickers add
when ive referb bats to get a weight of about 2.12 u need a raw cleft at about 2.9 not including string
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i agree. i normally find binding, stickers and grip add between 3-4 ounces depending on the grip stickers etc etc.
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Not sure if it's any use to anyone, but here's a g to oz converter...(had to make it as my scales didn't do oz's!)
g lbs Oz
1,000g 2lb 3.3oz
1,010g 2lb 3.6oz
1,020g 2lb 4oz
1,030g 2lb 4.3oz
1,040g 2lb 4.7oz
1,050g 2lb 5oz
1,060g 2lb 5.4oz
1,070g 2lb 5.7oz
1,080g 2lb 6.1oz
1,090g 2lb 6.4oz
1,100g 2lb 6.8oz
1,110g 2lb 7.2oz
1,120g 2lb 7.5oz
1,130g 2lb 7.9oz
1,140g 2lb 8.2oz
1,150g 2lb 8.6oz
1,160g 2lb 8.9oz
1,170g 2lb 9.3oz
1,180g 2lb 9.6oz
1,190g 2lb 10oz
1,200g 2lb 10.3oz
1,210g 2lb 10.7oz
1,220g 2lb 11oz
1,230g 2lb 11.4oz
1,240g 2lb 11.7oz
1,250g 2lb 12.1oz
1,260g 2lb 12.4oz
1,270g 2lb 12.8oz
1,280g 2lb 13.2oz
1,290g 2lb 13.5oz
1,300g 2lb 13.9oz
1,310g 2lb 14.2oz
1,320g 2lb 14.6oz
1,330g 2lb 14.9oz
1,340g 2lb 15.3oz
1,350g 2lb 15.6oz
1,360g 2lb 16oz
1,370g 3lb 0.3oz
1,380g 3lb 0.7oz
1,390g 3lb 1oz
1,400g 3lb 1.4oz
1,410g 3lb 1.7oz
1,420g 3lb 2.1oz
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I think the "weight before it was stickered" thing can sometimes be used as an excuse if the company is out of light bats or has made the bat at a slightly wrong weight.
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It's amazing how much weight binding adds, it's just string!
"Light weight stickers" will be the next trend.:)
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It's amazing how much weight binding adds, it's just string!
"Light weight stickers" will be the next trend.:)
I suppose it's the amount used. I've never measured it but must be fairly Lengthy.
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They are pretty damn light at the moment, willow will get lighter, cane will get lighter.
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Lighter by being drier?
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Yes to drier, but not just drying, hybrids will lower density too.
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Sorry Dan but you're scales are busted mate There's 2.2 lb in a kilo not 2.3. the rest of your scale might be out too if the first one is wrong.
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Remember that there are 16oz in a lb, so .2 of a lb is not 2oz
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Stupid metric system! Gotta be one of the peculiarities of being British and having to flit between to two all the time!