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Title: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: legger123 on March 14, 2012, 07:54:06 PM
Whats people views on the best way to prepare a bat for play?
Was thinking what order of oiling, knocking in and applying bat face? :)
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: Talisman on March 14, 2012, 07:54:33 PM
I'd knock first, then face, then oil.
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Post by: harry kovert on March 14, 2012, 07:58:12 PM
I'd knock first, then face, then oil.

Thought you were an advocate of facing and not oiling?
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: Talisman on March 14, 2012, 08:23:40 PM
Well if you fit the face first I think you wouldn't in fact oil it but instead oil the remaining exposed parts of the bat, you have much to learn young jedi...
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: Vulcan Cricket on March 14, 2012, 08:31:01 PM
well this what i do  oil it with vulcan bat gel  knock it in  put a bit more bat gel on  leave it to dry of and 1 to 2 hours then put scuff sheet on and edgeing tape
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: harry kovert on March 14, 2012, 08:32:06 PM
Well if you fit the face first I think you wouldn't in fact oil it but instead oil the remaining exposed parts of the bat, you have much to learn young jedi...

That's the method I use but thought it went against the sage's advice. First to admit that me know nothing!
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: harry kovert on March 14, 2012, 08:32:50 PM
well this what i do  oil it with vulcan bat gel  knock it in  put a bit more bat gel on  leave it to dry of and 1 to 2 hours then put scuff sheet on and edgeing tape

Bat gel!!! What's that then...Sounds a little kinky!
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: mike73 on March 14, 2012, 08:34:19 PM
I knock in (a lot of knockin in!) apply a little oil to the face, make sure the oil has fully sunk in and dried (I just leave it a day or so)

Thats what I usually do. I also put bat tape down the sides and sometimes across the toe.
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: kaustav on March 14, 2012, 08:35:34 PM
I oil it first, then knock it in with a mallet and then put the anti-scuff sheet. One of the attractions of buying a new bat for me is to oil it first---- dunno why, but I love the smell of a new bat and raw linseed oil  8)
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: legger123 on March 14, 2012, 08:42:59 PM
I oil it first, then knock it in with a mallet and then put the anti-scuff sheet. One of the attractions of buying a new bat for me is to oil it first---- dunno why, but I love the smell of a new bat and raw linseed oil  8)

I more or less do this, however I knock in with a Ball on the Stick :)
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: Vulcan Cricket on March 14, 2012, 08:43:27 PM
o yer its bat loveing to the max its a little mix i make up work a treat and it buffs up well to iam thinking of selling in 80ml tubs

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Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: kaustav on March 14, 2012, 08:48:13 PM
o yer its bat loveing to the max its a little mix i make up work a treat and it buffs up well to iam thinking of selling in 80ml tubs

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Tell us a bit more about the mix DB. Is it like a Bat Wax? What are the ingredients? Will it make me score more runs....? ;)
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: cricketbadger on March 14, 2012, 08:51:46 PM
im in the middle of preparing 2 bats at the moment.
oiled them both twice last week with 2 fairly light coats. left to dry for a day or 2
now knocking them both in,would say there nearly ready for a go in the nets
and may not bother with a scuff sheet,but if i do that will be once the knocking in is finished
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: Vulcan Cricket on March 14, 2012, 08:53:06 PM
ok i never use bat wax but this stuff is wax linseed oil and has one other wax in there to thats all i wanna say lol will it make you score more runs ???  :(
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: Bruce on March 14, 2012, 08:59:30 PM
Is there any difference for knocking in a laminate?
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: SkipperJ on March 14, 2012, 09:20:42 PM
I'd knock first, then face, then oil.

Wouldn't oiling first help make the surface a bit more supple and help knocking (prevent cracks maybe?)
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: legger123 on March 14, 2012, 09:29:21 PM
I've got a bat to knock in for a friend, thinking of knocking it in, oiling it then putting a face guard on?
Would this be alright :)
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: Colesy on March 14, 2012, 09:46:14 PM
Bat gel!!! What's that then...Sounds a little kinky!

Stops wood getting too hard (sorry)
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: harry kovert on March 14, 2012, 09:49:38 PM
Stops wood getting too hard (sorry)

Very good young man. The antidote to viagra perhaps!
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: Joe on March 14, 2012, 09:51:06 PM
Oil, Knock In, Face.
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: Colesy on March 14, 2012, 09:52:42 PM
Bat viagra might make it's playability a bit stiff like Lavers
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: Johnny on March 14, 2012, 10:23:10 PM
Oil, Knock In, Face.

This is how I would do it.

Been trying to do a bit of research on this recently, as would quite like to do a video piece on this subject. Thing is, I don't think there is a definitive way. Different people have their own rituals, and I'm sure the natural characteristics of the wood also will play a part in which techniques appear to work.
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: Vulcan Cricket on March 14, 2012, 10:28:45 PM
Lol lol lol love it very very good could ho do a harding wax just for you lol
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: legger123 on March 15, 2012, 09:01:55 AM
Also would I be right in saying that you only knock the edges in? I've been told not the middle in otherwise it loses it springs. Came from but of dodgy salesman but I don't know if was right.
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: Talisman on March 15, 2012, 09:10:42 AM
For those who have their own way of preparing is this because you know what each action does and the requirement or perceived requirements of the bat or is it based on advice/hearsay?
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: Ryan on March 15, 2012, 09:18:12 AM
I'd knock first, then face, then oil.

agreed, no point knocking a bat in over the scuff sheet. Once knocked in the bat can have a scuff sheets applied and then oil to the back (keeping away from the splice area, normally covered by stickers). the scuff sheet will keep moisture in the face of the bat so no need to oil this area.

just my opinion.
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: Joe on March 15, 2012, 09:29:24 AM
For those who have their own way of preparing is this because you know what each action does and the requirement or perceived requirements of the bat or is it based on advice/hearsay?
I oil and face because oiling brings out the grain.
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: Johnny on March 15, 2012, 09:43:10 AM
For those who have their own way of preparing is this because you know what each action does and the requirement or perceived requirements of the bat or is it based on advice/hearsay?


My current method is a mixture of the advice I've read from manufacturers, combined with the technique passed down to me by my dad, then with my own modern twist on the end of it.

Here's James Laver's take:
http://www.abcofcricket.com/Article_Library/art47/art48/art48.htm

This is from Slazenger (old school Slazenger when they were good):
http://www.cricketsupplies.com/cricket-bat-care-guide.asp

..and this is advice from Warrior:
http://www.warriorcricketbats.com/knockingin.aspx
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: Canners on March 15, 2012, 09:49:59 AM
i tend to knock it in for a bit, apply a face and give it a good working over with the bola, and then its good to go......
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: RoCo Da Pixie on March 15, 2012, 10:49:06 AM
I don't knock in bats, I dislike it with a passion, I get the Maker to knock it in and face, So whatever they do is fine with me.
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: SkipperJ on March 15, 2012, 01:09:57 PM
For those who have their own way of preparing is this because you know what each action does and the requirement or perceived requirements of the bat or is it based on advice/hearsay?

For me, it's a little bit of both. Also, I like the smell of linseed oil on willow, and knocking in acts as a great stress reliever  :D
Title: Re: Best way of preparing bat.
Post by: praguetaz on March 18, 2012, 07:11:35 PM
I always acquire ebay or forum members cast-offs and follow this procedure:

Remove existing bat face very carefully
Remove any residue
Sand the whole bat back to the natural wood and fine sanding until i'm happy.
Rub on with cloth a generous layer of salix bat wax all over except splice area and leave horizontal for a day or two until it's 'soaked' in and dry to touch
Knock in with a hardwood bat mallet for several hours until i'm happy with the middle and edges
Finish with a ball mallet
Add a final thin coat of bat wax, leave to dry and add a 'hammer edge' bat face sheet
Finally the nets to determine if further knocking in is required

I love it unlike some members but that's just me.. I like knowing my bats have been finally match prepared by me, but then I'm an opening batsman too so maybe that has something to do with it...Also i've never sent a bat off to be serviced either...