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Title: virat kohli and chris gayle
Post by: Kp1995 on April 16, 2012, 09:58:04 AM
would just like to get everyones view on Chris Gayle
Title: Re: Chris Tank Gayle
Post by: Alvaro on April 16, 2012, 10:00:00 AM
I hear he's lovely to his Mom
Title: Re: Chris Tank Gayle
Post by: Manormanic on April 16, 2012, 10:03:20 AM
and speaks beautifully in the third person
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Post by: mdl_1979 on April 16, 2012, 10:10:39 AM
Hits it miles, but is massively overrated as a player.
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Post by: Liam-SCCC on April 16, 2012, 10:18:54 AM
He is a good player, but I guess I'd like him more if he still played test matches and cricket for west indies
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Post by: Simmy on April 16, 2012, 10:24:07 AM
id like him alot more if he was english!
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Post by: Wills on April 16, 2012, 10:26:16 AM
I like him even more now that he is playing for Somerset.
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Post by: Red Ink Cricket on April 16, 2012, 10:27:11 AM
I like him even more now that he is playing for Somerset.

is he still playing or has he quit as he is now back in the windies set up?
Title: Re: Chris Tank Gayle
Post by: Kp1995 on April 16, 2012, 11:26:02 AM
Hits it miles, but is massively overrated as a player.

mmmm i dont think hes overrated to be honest
Title: virat kohli and chris gayle
Post by: Kp1995 on April 16, 2012, 11:29:17 AM
after there preformance in the ipl could this be a good opening pair for any XI
Title: Re: virat kohli and chris gayle
Post by: PedalsMcgrew on April 16, 2012, 11:35:53 AM
In 20/20 maybe, in proper cricket no! Gayle hasn't got the patience and Kohli can't play the short ball....
Title: Re: virat kohli and chris gayle
Post by: Kp1995 on April 16, 2012, 11:42:45 AM
yh i agree with you mate to be honest
Title: Re: Chris Tank Gayle
Post by: mdl_1979 on April 16, 2012, 11:58:46 AM
mmmm i dont think hes overrated to be honest

Really? He gets a lot of hype for someone who averages 41 at Test level. He does have a triple century, but only 12 other centuries in over 90 Tests. He abandoned his region in a time of need to chase the bucks of slogathon cricket. So yes, he is overrated.
Title: Re: Chris Tank Gayle
Post by: Kp1995 on April 16, 2012, 12:01:56 PM
Really? He gets a lot of hype for someone who averages 41 at Test level. He does have a triple century, but only 12 other centuries in over 90 Tests. He abandoned his region in a time of need to chase the bucks of slogathon cricket. So yes, he is overrated.

for the ipl he is epic
Title: Re: Chris Tank Gayle
Post by: bigboy on April 16, 2012, 12:04:41 PM
he swings a 12 inch long blade.
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Post by: Buzz on April 16, 2012, 12:04:46 PM
for the ipl he is epic

so he is great on slow pitches in a sea of overpaid mediocracy... each to their own in my view.
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Post by: Number4 on April 16, 2012, 12:21:27 PM
he swings a 12 inch long blade.

Wish I had 12 inches to swing
Title: Re: virat kohli and chris gayle
Post by: Nickauger on April 16, 2012, 12:24:30 PM
And Kohli is petulant, angry, and doesn't open does he?
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Post by: Alvaro on April 16, 2012, 12:29:13 PM
Kohli is very good, and if he were to bat no.3 for India he'd essentially be opening ...
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Post by: Tumo on April 16, 2012, 12:57:47 PM
Kohli is very good, and if he were to bat no.3 for India he'd essentially be opening ...
Agreed on both points, Kohli is very, VERY good...
Title: Re: virat kohli and chris gayle
Post by: Kp1995 on April 16, 2012, 01:54:18 PM
Agreed on both points, Kohli is very, VERY good...

agreed he should open
Title: Re: virat kohli and chris gayle
Post by: Nickauger on April 16, 2012, 01:55:36 PM
Can't deny that he is very very good, but just can't stand the way he is!
Title: Re: virat kohli and chris gayle
Post by: Tumo on April 16, 2012, 01:59:40 PM
agreed he should open
He shouldn't open, he should be 3/4. Also, Nick, he's young, he's petulant. Suppose you weren't a fan of Broad, Jimmy, Swanny, Hoggy, Harmy, etc when they were all younger and more petulant? Haha
Title: Re: virat kohli and chris gayle
Post by: Nickauger on April 16, 2012, 02:07:36 PM
In all honesty mate, I wasn't. If he matures like they have then fair play, which I'm sure he will. At the moment I don't like him.
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Post by: PedalsMcgrew on April 16, 2012, 02:14:31 PM
He shouldn't open, he should be 3/4. Also, Nick, he's young, he's petulant. Suppose you weren't a fan of Broad, Jimmy, Swanny, Hoggy, Harmy, etc when they were all younger and more petulant? Haha

Harmy? Petulant? I doubt he was ever bothered enough to be petulant... :D Can't think that Hoggy was much of a naughty boy either...

I agree with Buzz, Kohli is massively overrated much like every other batsman given star billing in the IPL....good, but nowhere near as good as the IPL or India would like us to think.
Title: Re: virat kohli and chris gayle
Post by: mdl_1979 on April 16, 2012, 02:20:42 PM
Kohli looks a good player from what I have seen, but he needs to do it at Test level, where he has flattered to deceive a bit.  He has a whiff of the Ian Bells about him.
Title: Re: virat kohli and chris gayle
Post by: Tumo on April 16, 2012, 02:21:38 PM
Harmy? Petulant? I doubt he was ever bothered enough to be petulant... :D Can't think that Hoggy was much of a naughty boy either...

I agree with Buzz, Kohli is massively overrated much like every other batsman given star billing in the IPL....good, but nowhere near as good as the IPL or India would like us to think.
Hoggy did get in trouble quite a bit with the ICC, Harmy was a bit of a faux pas on my part, I forgot he barely cares about anything ever! I rate Kohli higher than most of the Indians coming through, aside from Pujara and Rahane, who have both proven their abilities, Rahane doing so in England, a very tough hunting ground for the Indians!
Title: Re: virat kohli and chris gayle
Post by: Cover_Drive on April 16, 2012, 02:30:31 PM
The day Kohli comes near captaincy etc his performances will be diminishing.
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Post by: tushar sehgal on April 16, 2012, 02:45:38 PM
The day Kohli comes near captaincy etc his performances will be diminishing.

As much as i want to disagree my brain tells me that this more likely to happen then not....

Kohli has a fantastic work ethic but is lacking in brains when it comes to being anything unrelated to cricket...to be fair though he has 2 paths to choose from...one would lead him the way of Clarke other would be the way of harbhajan...as a person/player i mean...bhajji was aggresive and good but then we all know how it turned out...MC on the other hand was never as brash but has done very well for himself
Title: Re: virat kohli and chris gayle
Post by: Colesy on April 16, 2012, 02:55:06 PM
In 20/20 maybe, in proper cricket no! Gayle hasn't got the patience and Kohli can't play the short ball....

His big hundreds and triple tons suggest otherwise
Title: Re: virat kohli and chris gayle
Post by: PedalsMcgrew on April 16, 2012, 02:57:39 PM
Hoggy did get in trouble quite a bit with the ICC, Harmy was a bit of a faux pas on my part, I forgot he barely cares about anything ever! I rate Kohli higher than most of the Indians coming through, aside from Pujara and Rahane, who have both proven their abilities, Rahane doing so in England, a very tough hunting ground for the Indians!

Was Hoggy a naughty boy? I don't remember that! He seems such a nice lad!

Don't know anything about Pujara! I will try to educate myself about him......  :D

Rahane did look pretty useful in the few games I saw him play. His average of 30 from 11 odi's is hardly awesome though....I did expect him to have better stats than that... ???

Personally I think the IPL is really harming Indian cricket....Players seem to gain massive reputations from playing in it then find they can't transfer it to 'real' cricket.....I imagine the whole focus in India is on this competition to the detriment of the other competitions and most of the players are only interested in getting ipl contracts...

Shame really but it could kill the Test side for years to come...

His big hundreds and triple tons suggest otherwise

How long ago where they then? You think he could do it now? He gets bored after 5 overs....


Title: Re: virat kohli and chris gayle
Post by: Colesy on April 16, 2012, 03:00:39 PM
If he wanted to then I can't see why not, he is very talented and when he seems to face a personal challenge usually delivers
Title: Re: virat kohli and chris gayle
Post by: PedalsMcgrew on April 16, 2012, 03:05:09 PM
But only if he's getting paid enough and he can play how he wants to play, when he wants to play! That is just not an attitude suited to Test cricket, or, in fact any international cricket.

He's an amazing talent, I totally agree, but he's not wired up right anymore. His motivation is money....nothing else!
Title: Re: virat kohli and chris gayle
Post by: Alvaro on April 16, 2012, 03:33:29 PM
In all fairness, the WICB are hardly blame free in this whole story ... it's very easy to make Gayle the pariah.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/may/03/the-spin-crickileaks
http://wicbexpose.com/

Gayle got 333 in Nov 2010
Title: Re: virat kohli and chris gayle
Post by: procricket on September 25, 2012, 10:19:54 PM
Looking back on things thin Kholi has come through the other side a class act possibly up there with the best at the minute
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Post by: The_Bird on September 25, 2012, 10:27:36 PM
Looking back on things thin Kholi has come through the other side a class act possibly up there with the best at the minute

The best batsmen to watch currently in both shorter forms of the game. How long he can keep this form is the only question for him now.
Title: Re: virat kohli and chris gayle
Post by: petehosk on September 26, 2012, 08:28:12 AM
In my opinion (doesn't count for much but hey-ho!) Kholi has seemed to work hard and is being rewarded with a superb period of great form. He looks very good at the moment, but whether this form will evolve into permanent class will be seen in a year or two - so time will tell on that one.
Gayle is Gayle. You have some technically gifted players who use their feet beautifully and you could teach kids of the perfect way to bat from watching video of them, and then you have Gayle! He isn't the prettiest of players and he rarely uses his feet, but he has an incredible eye and coordination! With his power and his eye working together, he can take bowlers apart and doesn't worry about boundary fielders as they will just be a spectator as the ball sails majestically over their heads 20 or 30 meters out of reach (and sometimes more!!!)
I think both players have changed their game. Gayle in particular seems to give himself a little more time to get that eye of his in! This may help his Test game if he ever plays Tests again on a regular basis!