Custom Bats Cricket Forum
Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: tim2000s on April 26, 2012, 12:06:49 PM
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As the title says, you have access to Scoops, Carbon inserts, rubber, steel, lamination techniques, in fact, anything goes...
What would you put together to make the best perfoming bat you could? The only pre-requisite is that the majority of the bat should be willow and the blade height and width can't change!
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Make it wider!
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Make it wider!
Just about to say this, 12in wide blade!
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Just about to say this, 12in wide blade!
Lol, okay, I've amended the original post... You've to remain in the same dimensions, but what would making the bat 12 inches wide do to the bat, and how would it affect the game?
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4inch width, Original C6 handle which was not used in production, laminated face, fully dried out willow, anti scuff face.
This is based on the presumption that by allowing banned materials you are looking at a bat to perform to the maximum.
Scoop = weight redistribution
Carbon inserts = stiffer toe and shoulder.
Rubber ?
Steel ?
Lamination = maximise performance.
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You could book in for bed and breakfast on it and never ever ever ever get out unless you wanted to play a shot:)
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You could book in for bed and breakfast on it and never ever ever ever get out unless you wanted to play a shot:)
eh?
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eh?
If you had a 12" wide bat.
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i would have gone for a c6 handle and laminated blade also
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i would have gone for a c6 handle and laminated blade also
What could you do with lamination, given that only the majority of the blade needs to be willow? Is the C6 handle as it stands the best way to use that or are there other things you could do with it? Can the carbon rod be placed through almost the entire length of the blade to act as a vibration damper? can you effectively create an internal spring with the carbon rod?
Could you apply carbon side inserts on the lamination that apply tension to the face for example, turning it into a large trampoline?
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Or fill the bat with super balls like they do with baseball bats
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Or fill the bat with super balls like they do with baseball bats
Would this break the rule about being majoritarily willow?
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The C6 handle used in production was a safe version of the prototype which gave a power increase but had a high failure rate. The production gave no extra power but did offer a weight saving.
Probably the best handle I've used is the Laver with the full Carbon rod, it was stiff and that's what I'd be looking for in a handle.
I wouldn't put a carbon rod in the blade.
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Would this break the rule about being majoritarily willow?
Not if it is just down the centre of the bat...
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forget willow, I would make the bat out of a similar product to a hockey stick
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forget willow, I would make the bat out of a similar product to a hockey stick
Would that work? as cross laminated sheets of Kevlar, Carbon Fibre and Glass Fibre will give a stiffness and strength but what about spring? Having had a few chats about making a bat like this with Malik was told it simply wouldn't work and they make some of the best sticks in the world.
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How about rekindling this.
http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=45&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19860301&CC=IN&NR=157343A1&KC=A1
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I'd give it a trampoline like a Fusion Skyer!
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4inch width, Original C6 handle which was not used in production, laminated face, fully dried out willow, anti scuff face.
This is based on the presumption that by allowing banned materials you are looking at a bat to perform to the maximum.
Scoop = weight redistribution
Carbon inserts = stiffer toe and shoulder.
Rubber ?
Steel ?
Lamination = maximise performance.
Carbon Handle
Laminated face
Ultra light density blade
Thin layer of rubber between the lamination and the blade
If that combo didn't go like the clappers, I dunno what would!
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The rubber will not help, it will defeat the object of a stiff face, it would act as a shock absorber....
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Carbon fibre sheet instead of rubber? 2/3 ply thick to give stiffness behind veneer
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How about a double lam (triple?). 3 pieces of wood, a regular lam with the join down the edge and then a performance laminate on the face?
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The rubber will not help, it will defeat the object of a stiff face, it would act as a shock absorber....
How about balsa wood between the laminate and the blade? :)
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I would guess at Carbon Fibre adding stiffness to it but it has to be able to flex.
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What about cork between the laminate and the blade? :)
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James Laver posted something similar to this a while ago, i cant find his post to what he said he'd do but it sounded pretty incredible
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I will have a laminate low density willow harrow size Hades with a C6 handle. ;) :D
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Don't know what the hell it would do but hollow out the sweet spot and fill in with cork! Haha
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Don't know what the hell it would do but hollow out the sweet spot and fill in with cork! Haha
Surely remove the face, add the cork, and then but the face back on, sort of a laminate plus have a c6 handle ;)
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There is a picture of a Callen bat like that somewhere
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Would that work? as cross laminated sheets of Kevlar, Carbon Fibre and Glass Fibre will give a stiffness and strength but what about spring? Having had a few chats about making a bat like this with Malik was told it simply wouldn't work and they make some of the best sticks in the world.
Having messed around at the end of hockey sessions for many years a 36.5" 565g (about 1lb 2oz) stick goes like the clappers if you 'middle' one whilst playing cricket, I've cleared the fence at one end of the pitch from standing on the goal line at the other end of the pitch before but it isn't easy, that is probably a 1 in every 250 hit at over 90 metres but you can consistently hit over 3 quarters of the length of the pitch which would be nearly 70 metres from a very slow delivery.
Quite a few of the sticks have hollow tubes inside, I'd imagine a carbon bat to just be a bigger version of this - http://www.grays-hockey.co.uk/technology.asp see the GX Turbo Torque cross section about 2/3rs down the page,
As you say I'm not sure it would work scaled up but I'd still like to offer my services to try one to prove it doesn't work :)
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i'd put on an anti scuff sheet which was made of a special rubber and glue which turned my bat into a skyer like thing
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I will have a laminate low density willow harrow size Hades with a C6 handle. ;) :D
sounds tasty
whens it due?
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Bat hollowed and filled with the stuff they use to make the super bouncy balls.
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sounds tasty
whens it due?
It's fictional mate ;)
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It has to be a laminate imo with a carbo handle and a 1.5inch shorter blade. Made out of a 'proper' low density cleft, preferably one of those oversized clefts and a lamitoe to finish it off
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Bat hollowed and filled with the stuff they use to make the super bouncy balls.
Pretty sure I said this on page 1... Get your own ideas ...haha ;)
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-Performance laminate
-Extra dry
-Carbon fibre back (like on kooks)
-Like 5 of this invention I saw on tv once. (found here http://www.abc.net.au/tv/newinventors/txt/s2523975.htm)
:)
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Laminated
face= normal lush willow
Rest if the bat: Extra dry willow might get something with 50mm edges weighing 2.7
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A willow-titanium laminate.
not illegal, but a very think handle so need need for two grips.
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Pretty sure I said this on page 1... Get your own ideas ...haha ;)
sorry I didnt click on the first page.