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Title: Setting the field
Post by: Milky Bar Kid on May 09, 2012, 07:45:54 PM
I bowl left arm off spin. As I'm quite tall I get a fair amount of bounce and turn the ball quite a long way. Where would you put your fielders? Reason being is I've never set a field as my mate captains the side and does it for me but senior players want me to start doing it. I would definitely have a slip as I get a number of wickets there. Also a backward point. Now I'm stuck  :(
Title: Re: Setting the field
Post by: Bruce on May 09, 2012, 07:51:16 PM
Slip, backwards point, cow corner, deep square leg, 1 on the 45 degree, mid wicket- for playing with the spin, mid off, cover, maybe a deep extra cover.

That's for a RH bat.

It's very much a *ahem* suck it and see thing setting the field. :o Got to see what works for you.
Title: Re: Setting the field
Post by: wilkie113 on May 09, 2012, 08:04:23 PM
I'm a leggy, and have slip, point deep cover, extra cover, deep mid off, mid on, deep square leg, a midwicket saving one and someone on the 45, but obviously changes on the situation
Title: Re: Setting the field
Post by: Milky Bar Kid on May 09, 2012, 09:11:17 PM
I'm gonna give them a go Saturday. Thanks that's what I needed. Can make the changes if their needed.
Title: Re: Setting the field
Post by: Buzz on May 09, 2012, 09:26:16 PM
I would think you need to say how accurate you are and think where the fielders are.
as the guys have said, you want to think about where the batsman is hitting.

but to a right hander, certainly you want a 5-4 off side, split. given the pitches are pretty slow, I would have an off side of a slip, backward point, wide cover, someone on the drive catching on the line of extra and a deepish mid off. then your four leg side fielders would depend on the batsman and how accurate you are. you might want to start with a square leg a mid wicket and the 45 fielder or you might want a backward square leg mid wicket some protection on the fence and a mid on.

you could always ask your mate what he sets for you!
Title: Re: Setting the field
Post by: ajm90 on May 09, 2012, 09:47:19 PM
Could have a catching midwicket if they're trying to flick you through leg
Title: Re: Setting the field
Post by: will5210 on May 09, 2012, 10:16:12 PM
If the ball is turning I'd be tempted to leave a gap at midwicket to tempt them to play against the spin.

I'd start with: Slip, Backward point, deep cover, short cover, mid off (or long off), mid on, deep mid wicket, square leg, short fine leg.

Depends massively on the state of the game/batsmen/pitch/length of game/ etc though
Title: Re: Setting the field
Post by: Manormanic on May 10, 2012, 10:31:15 AM
but to a right hander, certainly you want a 5-4 off side, split. given the pitches are pretty slow, I would have an off side of a slip, backward point, wide cover, someone on the drive catching on the line of extra and a deepish mid off. then your four leg side fielders would depend on the batsman and how accurate you are. you might want to start with a square leg a mid wicket and the 45 fielder or you might want a backward square leg mid wicket some protection on the fence and a mid on.

Slightly controversial but if the OP is tall and turns it as he has said, and providing he is not prone to sticking it in half way down, I might be tempted to go with a 6-3 off side field to begin with - the 45 fielder should be largely redundant, and it would be interesting to see if he could convince the batsmen to try and sweep him against the turn, which may well lead to pop up catches. 

On the off side, slip, backward point, deep cover and a deepish mid off are musts - personally I would have the other two in to start with, one man on the drive and one at silly point.  That way the boundaries are protected but you still have men to put pressure on.  You'd soon know if you were bowling at guys patient enough to milk the singles and could adjust accordingly.
Title: Re: Setting the field
Post by: Pitbull on May 10, 2012, 10:40:45 AM
I agree with Manormanic I'd also go for a 6-3 field, slightly more attacking in that respect, will make them try to play the ball against the spin into the leg side too.
Title: Re: Setting the field
Post by: Buzz on May 10, 2012, 11:13:24 AM
Slightly controversial but if the OP is tall and turns it as he has said, and providing he is not prone to sticking it in half way down, I might be tempted to go with a 6-3 off side field to begin with - the 45 fielder should be largely redundant, and it would be interesting to see if he could convince the batsmen to try and sweep him against the turn, which may well lead to pop up catches. 

On the off side, slip, backward point, deep cover and a deepish mid off are musts - personally I would have the other two in to start with, one man on the drive and one at silly point.  That way the boundaries are protected but you still have men to put pressure on.  You'd soon know if you were bowling at guys patient enough to milk the singles and could adjust accordingly.
I agree - I thought about this - I really don't like the 45 field placement - I prefer a backward square leg. the 6-3 will mean you are not setting a field for the bad ball - which I also prefer.
It depends on the bowler, but in an ideal world 6-3 would be brilliant.
Title: Re: Setting the field
Post by: Manormanic on May 10, 2012, 11:46:13 AM
the man at 45 is essential if you've got a guy bowling off spin, or even a left armer who doesn't really turn it much, as there will always be balls that get nudged round there whatever the bowler tries - but if the ball is actively gripping away from the bat, I like to offer it to the batsman as a risk/reward shot.
Title: Re: Setting the field
Post by: Buzz on May 10, 2012, 01:06:46 PM
the man at 45 is essential if you've got a guy bowling off spin, or even a left armer who doesn't really turn it much, as there will always be balls that get nudged round there whatever the bowler tries - but if the ball is actively gripping away from the bat, I like to offer it to the batsman as a risk/reward shot.
absolutely - but there are different angles at play for the offie
Title: Re: Setting the field
Post by: Manormanic on May 10, 2012, 03:29:38 PM
absolutely - but there are different angles at play for the offie

exactly - the batsman can always elect to get inside the line and work him round the corner Dravid style.  To counter that, I finished last season setting a leg gully for our young spinner from the start - he wasn;t turning it enough to really merit it, but it got the batsman thinking that there were demons coming his way!
Title: Re: Setting the field
Post by: Milky Bar Kid on May 10, 2012, 04:08:07 PM
Thanks for the responses guys, really appreciate it. I always have a 45 and a slip for definite. In terms of accuracy I have been prone to dropping it short but have really worked on it and it's not much of a problem anymore. I always turn it big and get bounce even on soaking wet, soggy pitches. Don't know how I just do. Looking through your responses there seem to be similarities so I'm gonna try them all and see how I go. Once again thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Setting the field
Post by: Manormanic on May 10, 2012, 04:22:26 PM
of course, this is wher we find out we're playing the guy next week...  :D
Title: Re: Setting the field
Post by: uknsaunders on May 10, 2012, 04:34:09 PM
I bowled left arm spin, here's my defensive field setting:-

5 offside - slip, backpoint/point, deep cover,extra cover, long off
4 legside - 45 on the 1, deep square, midwicket, long on

More attacking would be to bring long off/on in and deep extra. If it's turning big then move backward point to gully, then either move cover to point and/or extra to short extra. Could also bring deep square across.

Pace of the deck and outfield also important, as well as the pace you bowl. Slow deck/pace - point more important, quicker deck or quicker through the air then backward point.

Job done. Bowling figures in the league - 26.1-8-36-5
Title: Re: Setting the field
Post by: Colesy on May 11, 2012, 12:25:37 AM
I bowl leggies, depending how well it comes out I might keep people in the ring getting the batsman to go over the top. More often than not I bowl pies and will have a deep over and/or deep square leg. What's the saying "s balls take wickets"? ;)
Title: Re: Setting the field
Post by: Manormanic on May 11, 2012, 10:41:20 AM
I bowl leggies, depending how well it comes out I might keep people in the ring getting the batsman to go over the top. More often than not I bowl pies and will have a deep over and/or deep square leg. What's the saying "s balls take wickets"? ;)

oh, they do - but only usually when they're surrounded by some decent stuff so that the batsman tries too hard to score off the bad one.
Title: Re: Setting the field
Post by: steyn92 on May 11, 2012, 03:32:04 PM
I always ask for a Mid-wicket, always in with a shout with a spooned shot to the legside