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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: tim2000s on May 10, 2012, 07:18:09 AM

Title: Cricket Bat Evolution; How the Laver Ultra takes the MMi3 concept a step further
Post by: tim2000s on May 10, 2012, 07:18:09 AM
Does it? Really? Well let’s go back to the MMi3 and take a look. It is designed to improve the power per shot, and it does this by putting the majority of the weight further from the pivot point, increasing the velocity of the chunk of wood hitting the ball and therefore the momentum, which is transferred to the ball, using the same principle as the golf club.

The Ultra (and New Profile) also put the majority of the wood further from the pivot point to achieve the same thing.  Both the MMi3 and Ultra have large meaty lower blades with big edges and although different shaped backs, offer a similar answer to the placement of the bat mass.

But the Mongoose doesn’t have a splice? Well it does, you just can’t see it. Remember the issue with the Mongoose ears that needed trimming? Those lengths of willow that were a part of the blade that extended too far up the handle and therefore broke Law 6? The splice is there, it’s simply that the blade has been cleverly shaped to look like a part of the handle, which is why it gets so fat towards the bottom... And why the blade appears only to be half the size of a standard bat!

(http://www.cricketsupplies.com/showimage.asp?s=350&mag=1&path=\ImageLibrary\Mongoose%20Cricket\Bats\2012%20MMI3%20SP.jpg)

(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa246/jbl_012/newbats004.jpg)

The Lavers still have a full length blade though… Well, yes they do, but think about the complaints from club cricketers about the MMi3, in that with a canny bowler it becomes very difficult to play anything slightly short or properly back of a length – you have no willow to hit it with (not a problem for Pros, I concede, but their shot decision is made far more quickly than your average club cricketer so they give themselves time).  Even the Stig had difficulties...

That long handle from the MMi3? Well it’s still there (sort of) in the Ultra. The thin top part of the bat is where the MMi3 handle would be, and instead of leaving you with a rod, you have a full width blade that, while not having any power, still allows you to defend a short ball and edge a few past the keeper! And of course it aids balance as the weight distribution is subtly different. It’s all really in the weight distribution.

Having one of each, when you hit the ball with the Ultra, it feels just like it does with the Mongoose, but as a lower order club cricketer, I feel that bit more confident as I don’t have the same worries with the short ball…

We’ve seen the evolution of this idea even further with the Legacy product that Laver produce... It takes the MMi concept even further as there isn’t even a toe so to speak!

(http://www.laverwood.co.nz/images/resized/bats/legacy/leg_profile.jpg)

But has this been done before in a cricket bat? Well, yes, I think it has in the Slazenger V12 of the eighties, I just don't believe that at the time the pressing and drying was quite so capable of producing such a big bat...

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_blLLx3gm1k0/TM7gwYFEhcI/AAAAAAAABzc/cn_p8q2CYUc/photo%20(2).JPG)

Am I just being a bat geek? What do you think?
Title: Re: Cricket Bat Evolution; How the Laver Ultra takes the MMi3 concept a step further
Post by: Number4 on May 10, 2012, 07:29:56 AM
You haven't mention the new Laver profile Tim which is extremely interesting too
Title: Re: Cricket Bat Evolution; How the Laver Ultra takes the MMi3 concept a step further
Post by: tim2000s on May 10, 2012, 07:32:19 AM
You haven't mention the new Laver profile Tim which is extremely interesting too
Second parapgraph, fourth and fifth words. I've just used Ultra as a catch all as I didn't want to have to write New Profile every time!
Title: Re: Cricket Bat Evolution; How the Laver Ultra takes the MMi3 concept a step further
Post by: Buzz on May 10, 2012, 07:37:20 AM
really nice start to the day... and that reminds me, watch out for a very special competition with a free laver bat coming soon... ;)
Title: Re: Cricket Bat Evolution; How the Laver Ultra takes the MMi3 concept a step further
Post by: Bruce on May 10, 2012, 07:49:03 AM
Great post, Tim. I'd love to get my hands on the Laver Legacy.
Title: Re: Cricket Bat Evolution; How the Laver Ultra takes the MMi3 concept a step further
Post by: Number4 on May 10, 2012, 07:49:11 AM
Second parapgraph, fourth and fifth words. I've just used Ultra as a catch all as I didn't want to have to write New Profile every time!

Doh!!!!
Title: Re: Cricket Bat Evolution; How the Laver Ultra takes the MMi3 concept a step further
Post by: charlie15 on May 10, 2012, 10:11:57 AM
really nice start to the day... and that reminds me, watch out for a very special competition with a free laver bat coming soon... ;)

Ohhh Goody  :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Cricket Bat Evolution; How the Laver Ultra takes the MMi3 concept a step further
Post by: Cover_Drive on May 10, 2012, 02:39:41 PM
Lovely lovely write up Tim, don't know about others but I thank you for providing us brilliant insight.

I think anyone who has MMi3, it would be interesting if they roll the grip up and see the splice region, how it looks etc. Who knows, we might see a splice there (as you mentioned in article)!!

Title: Re: Cricket Bat Evolution; How the Laver Ultra takes the MMi3 concept a step further
Post by: johnnyw on May 10, 2012, 02:43:56 PM
Lovely lovely write up Tim, don't know about others but I thank you for providing us brilliant insight.

I think anyone who has MMi3, it would be interesting if they roll the grip up and see the splice region, how it looks etc. Who knows, we might see a splice there (as you mentioned in article)!!
It will be covered in Twine so you wont see too much
Title: Re: Cricket Bat Evolution; How the Laver Ultra takes the MMi3 concept a step further
Post by: Tom on May 10, 2012, 04:52:18 PM
Lovely lovely write up Tim, don't know about others but I thank you for providing us brilliant insight.

I think anyone who has MMi3, it would be interesting if they roll the grip up and see the splice region, how it looks etc. Who knows, we might see a splice there (as you mentioned in article)!!


I think I've posted a photo of a naked MMi3 somewhere before.
Title: Re: Cricket Bat Evolution; How the Laver Ultra takes the MMi3 concept a step further
Post by: Tom on May 10, 2012, 04:54:08 PM
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/02thoeva/halfmoon.jpg)
The original 2009 CoR3, before ears had been cut. MMi3 is the same, minus the blue insert.
Title: Re: Cricket Bat Evolution; How the Laver Ultra takes the MMi3 concept a step further
Post by: Ryan on May 10, 2012, 05:20:46 PM
Is it like the newbery C6 handle?
Title: Re: Cricket Bat Evolution; How the Laver Ultra takes the MMi3 concept a step further
Post by: Tom on May 10, 2012, 05:24:06 PM
No. The C6 enters the lower portion of the blade and is a composite handle. The Mongoose is restricted to the upper portion of the blade and is spliced using a tradional jig.
Title: Re: Cricket Bat Evolution; How the Laver Ultra takes the MMi3 concept a step further
Post by: Ryan on May 10, 2012, 05:27:49 PM
Oh right, any pictures from the front?
Title: Re: Cricket Bat Evolution; How the Laver Ultra takes the MMi3 concept a step further
Post by: tim2000s on May 10, 2012, 08:54:42 PM
I worked out how the splice works thanks to Tom's ear cutting and my CoR3. The ear cutting suggested there was a splice due to law 6 and the CoR3 confirmed it becausr i could see the bottom of the splice.
Title: Re: Cricket Bat Evolution; How the Laver Ultra takes the MMi3 concept a step further
Post by: Cover_Drive on May 11, 2012, 07:37:49 AM
Pardon me but what's that blue insert Tom?
Title: Re: Cricket Bat Evolution; How the Laver Ultra takes the MMi3 concept a step further
Post by: Tom on May 11, 2012, 11:04:29 AM
A unique rubber compound.
Title: Re: Cricket Bat Evolution; How the Laver Ultra takes the MMi3 concept a step further
Post by: tim2000s on May 11, 2012, 12:01:26 PM
A unique rubber compound.
Presumably placed to reduce the amount of vibration up the handle as the longer handle will amplify any harmonics?
Title: Re: Cricket Bat Evolution; How the Laver Ultra takes the MMi3 concept a step further
Post by: trypewriter on May 16, 2012, 02:41:45 PM
The mention of the Slazenger bat made me wonder. I think around that time there were one or two on the market with sloping shoulders (Newbery Excalibur etc.) that might have been a step along this route? I've actually still got an Excalibur. A big bat for its time, but apart from the shoulderless design, more in line with the bats of those days than modern bats - smaller edges, no concaving etc.