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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: Canners on May 11, 2012, 10:10:20 AM

Title: edge size and relation to pick up
Post by: Canners on May 11, 2012, 10:10:20 AM

right so i have two bats here,

one last seasons match bat with measly 28 mm edges and another one with 38 mm edges, both the same shape and pretty much the same weight. The one with 38mm edges is obviously a lower density cleft. So why then does the bat with thinner edges feel lighter through the shot and feel slightly lighter....

my guess is the bigger volume bat creates slightly more drag?????

which then leads me to, are bigger edges really a better thing...............
Title: Re: edge size and relation to pick up
Post by: Dan W on May 11, 2012, 10:26:02 AM
This echoes my experience. I just found the thick edged bats didn't cut through the air the same, though I've since got used to it.
Title: Re: edge size and relation to pick up
Post by: Manormanic on May 11, 2012, 10:37:53 AM
Don't reckon you can tell that much, think its mostly down to perception really.
Title: Re: edge size and relation to pick up
Post by: RossViper on May 11, 2012, 11:11:47 AM
Mostly perception of the user, although I'm sure Norbs would say Radius of Gyration.
Title: Re: edge size and relation to pick up
Post by: Buzz on May 11, 2012, 11:16:35 AM
I think the edge size changes where the mass is on the bat so will have an impact - also the weight will be along the line of the spine and the handle so easier to pick up with the smaller edged bat.

As Ross says, weight off the radius of gyration will change the way the bat picks up.

Canners if you used a proper, full sized bat, rather than that 2020 nonsense you wouldn't have this imaginary issue ;) :o :)
Title: Re: edge size and relation to pick up
Post by: uknsaunders on May 11, 2012, 11:21:32 AM
I said something similar a while back.  I felt the higher spine profile running down the middle meant better control with your hands being placed directly above the middle. The further the meat from the spine ie. big edges or crazing concaving, the heavier the bat feels.
Title: Re: edge size and relation to pick up
Post by: Canners on May 11, 2012, 11:57:21 AM
I think the edge size changes where the mass is on the bat so will have an impact - also the weight will be along the line of the spine and the handle so easier to pick up with the smaller edged bat.

As Ross says, weight off the radius of gyration will change the way the bat picks up.

Canners if you used a proper, full sized bat, rather than that 2020 nonsense you wouldn't have this imaginary issue ;) :o :)

actually Mr Buzz this question corresponds from 2 normal sized bats, i will post pics.....

i am thinking of changing back to a normal sized blade but this depends on how many runs i score tomorrow :)
Title: Re: edge size and relation to pick up
Post by: tim2000s on May 11, 2012, 11:57:25 AM
You can draw lots of pictures with straight lines and levers on it to demonstrate how the weight distribution is different for smaller and larger edge sizes and some nice integration graphs. What you will find is pretty small differences, which although you may notice shouldn't make that much difference.

Ultimately though, I think as much as anything you can see more mass lower down the bat and this will make a significant difference to how you perceive it picks up.

It won't have anything to do with drag as the effect of eddies created by a 35% increase in edge size from 28mm to 38mm isn't going to make a difference.
Title: Re: edge size and relation to pick up
Post by: Canners on May 11, 2012, 01:49:46 PM
heres the pics, if you ignore the edges the spine is basically the same on both bats, both weigh in just over 2.8

please excuse the toes

(http://i.imgur.com/J3pBE.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/OULzM.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/jgRCz.jpg)
Title: Re: edge size and relation to pick up
Post by: spl on May 11, 2012, 02:04:13 PM
The new bat has a serious profile on it, especially for 2.8!  It dwarfs your one from last season.
Title: Re: edge size and relation to pick up
Post by: Canners on May 11, 2012, 02:11:29 PM
that bat may be working its way into my bag :)
Title: Re: edge size and relation to pick up
Post by: RossViper on May 11, 2012, 07:06:01 PM
I'll take a picture of my mates bat tomorrow, it got a crazy spine, not sure how he can bat with it to be fair...