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Title: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: 123* on May 17, 2012, 09:54:56 PM
Wondering if you guy's can help me out here need some tips on the pull/hook shot, I don't play the greatest standard of cricket couple below premier league stuff so really there is no one quick enough to push me back, I drive virtually everything and that is completely my shot however when we play outside cups against an overseas on a decent deck I just go all to pot, I really struggle to play this, I still seem to go forward but then when the ball rises I seem to (No Swearing Please) myself turn my head etc which makes me look like an utter idiot! I face the bowling machine at 70 in short and play it more than decent same with throw downs just this seems to desert me in a match! Any advice please!
Title: Re: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: epbs on May 17, 2012, 09:57:19 PM
Grow a pair?
Title: Re: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: Talisman on May 17, 2012, 10:02:14 PM
I'm no sage when it comes to playing but my view is when I face a bowler who could bowl quick enough to make the short ball a problem I try to watch it and gently play the shot as it is more timing than power with the 2 shots you've mentioned. Rather than fling the bat at it just relax and watch the ball onto the bat. It worries me sometimes but after netting on a lively surface this winter with bowlers happy to bang it in short I had a high success rate.
Title: Re: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: wilkie113 on May 17, 2012, 10:03:56 PM
Wondering if you guy's can help me out here need some tips on the pull/hook shot, I don't play the greatest standard of cricket couple below premier league stuff so really there is no one quick enough to push me back, I drive virtually everything and that is completely my shot however when we play outside cups against an overseas on a decent deck I just go all to pot, I really struggle to play this, I still seem to go forward but then when the ball rises I seem to (No Swearing Please) myself turn my head etc which makes me look like an utter idiot! I face the bowling machine at 70 in short and play it more than decent same with throw downs just this seems to desert me in a match! Any advice please!

Make sure your in line and play the shot, I have never played a pull shot until this season, and now I get in line and don't go out the way of the short ball I find it easy to play.
I got hit a few times I think that's part of learning the shot, gotta wear some to be able to play it properly and not be scared of the ball
Title: Re: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: Talisman on May 17, 2012, 10:06:15 PM
I think that the pain of getting hit can be a positive with a strong mind, but if it isn't then work hard on the mental side to minimize any problems.
Title: Re: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: wilkie113 on May 17, 2012, 10:06:34 PM
Also it's easy to play it on the bowling machine.... you know it's going to be short lol
Title: Re: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: wilkie113 on May 17, 2012, 10:08:17 PM
I think that the pain of getting hit can be a positive with a strong mind, but if it isn't then work hard on the mental side to minimize any problems.

I got hit in the eye through the grille ((thankfully I have the safest helmet in the world now to protect me) paypal is fine for the advertisement Tomtek) wore a couple on the shoulder and gut etc and I think it helped a lot, made me think if I get hit again I know what it's going to feel like so I better pull it lol
Title: Re: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: Talisman on May 17, 2012, 10:09:30 PM
You need a little fear in the belly to fully sharpen up.
Title: Re: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: jamferg on May 17, 2012, 10:25:23 PM
Watch it like a hawk and unless your legside boundaries are huge then... (No Swearing Please) it! Roll wrists if you are worried about being caught but its a freebie.. It aint hitting your stumps which accounts for a large % of outs through the season
Title: Re: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: straightdrive1 on May 18, 2012, 06:15:09 AM
Play it like this:
 :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3glVEJwimfE  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3glVEJwimfE)
Title: Re: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: Number4 on May 18, 2012, 07:33:35 AM
Watch the ball from the hand, pick the line and length early, get inside the line as this will give you more control and roll the wrists
Title: Re: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: Manormanic on May 18, 2012, 08:10:31 AM
you sound like you have a bit of a technical issue withthe shot in that your natural momentum is taking you forward when if anything you need to be moving back in thecrease to give yourself a fraction longer to see the bounce and get your wrists through the ball.
Title: Re: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: richthekeeper on May 18, 2012, 08:33:26 AM
i can't play the pull shot either, and this is mainly because i don't watch the ball well enough out of the hand.

you can see the bowler is going to dig one in short when his leading shoulder drops in his action - at that point i know i've got three options; backward defence, leave or cut!

i'm trying to work on this shot as well, particularly as an opener because it's a useful way to force a bowler to bowl fuller and let you drive. however at the moment I know it's not a shot I have in my locker, so I don't play it.
Title: Re: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: trypewriter on May 18, 2012, 08:48:07 AM
I suspect I'm not at the standard of many of the guys on here, but with most wickets still a bit on the puddingy side and the ball not hurrying through, maybe now is a good time to work on the shot as you should, all things being equal, have a bit more time to get into position and play it?
Title: Re: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: GarrettJ on May 18, 2012, 09:05:56 AM
1st tip ........... try to get yourself outside the line of the ball and then use the pace to nurdle it to the boundary, dont try and hammer it over midwicket for 6 until late on in your innings.

Another tip ............ point your back foot to the covers not point as it allows you to open up your body

Final tip ............ play it with your arms fully extended and swing your hands froma high position round your body from point down to square leg. I sometimes see people bending their arms adn playing from slip to mid on with their hands it it often results in the ball lobbing up of the top of the bat.

Use a tennis ball for practice to get the feel for your hands and foot and body position.


Title: Re: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: ajm90 on May 18, 2012, 10:33:17 AM
Dont try to overhit it, Stay in line and guide it into the gap if you time it well enough theres no need to hit it hard.  :)
Title: Re: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: Cys1 on May 18, 2012, 11:38:24 AM
Practice, practice and more practice!! People who play the pull and hook shot the best are the ones who pick up the length quickly and very importantly commit to playing the stroke. Any hesitation will get you into trouble and probably hurt.
i don't think there should be a problem in getting into position to play the shot when your weight is pressing forward. The most effective way of playing back is by pushing back off your front foot. Try moving back by simply moving your back leg and then try pushing back off your front leg. Also, the basic backfoot movement of going back and across will still apply when playing the pull/hook ( This gets you inside the line of the ball ). Straight arms are also important but this will be dictated by the line from which you are pulling the ball. The wider you pull the ball from the easier it is to play with straight arms and you will also hit the ball further in front of square. The closer the ball is to your body the less the chances of freeing your arms and therefore you are likely to hit it square or behind square.

There are obviously many more things to consider when learning to play the shot but if you are willing to work hard at it and take a couple of hits in the process you should be fine.
Title: Re: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: Number4 on May 18, 2012, 11:41:11 AM
The pull/hook is also a confidence shot so play confidently
Title: Re: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: Buzz on May 18, 2012, 11:56:36 AM
if you are effectively playing a higher standard in a game than you are used to, the phrase "play your natural game" springs to mind.

If the hook or pull aren't in your natural game in your normal cricket, then they are tough shots to bring in when you go up a level.

My suggestion is to work on your defensive shots against the short ball, work on how you can work them for ones or twos and play those shots confidendly, then by doing that you are forcing the bowler to try something new and bowl in the areas you are more used to playing.
Title: Re: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: RossViper on May 18, 2012, 12:22:01 PM
if you are effectively playing a higher standard in a game than you are used to, the phrase "play your natural game" springs to mind.

If the hook or pull aren't in your natural game in your normal cricket, then they are tough shots to bring in when you go up a level.

My suggestion is to work on your defensive shots against the short ball, work on how you can work them for ones or twos and play those shots confidendly, then by doing that you are forcing the bowler to try something new and bowl in the areas you are more used to playing.

what Buzz said, and for those reason, playing hooks, if you don't face quickish bowling all the time, its really hard, I wouldn't bother, just get better at ducking and swaying.



Title: Re: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: Jagminder on May 18, 2012, 07:27:50 PM
1st tip ........... try to get yourself outside the line of the ball and then use the pace to nurdle it to the boundary, dont try and hammer it over midwicket for 6 until late on in your innings.

Another tip ............ point your back foot to the covers not point as it allows you to open up your body

Final tip ............ play it with your arms fully extended and swing your hands froma high position round your body from point down to square leg. I sometimes see people bending their arms adn playing from slip to mid on with their hands it it often results in the ball lobbing up of the top of the bat.

Use a tennis ball for practice to get the feel for your hands and foot and body position.
In addition to this - when you play the shot remember to be on ball of your toe for your back foot.
P.S.- It is coming from someone who didn't know a thing about pulls/hooks in 2009 and In 2010, 80% of 4s and 6s were those shots. 
P.P.S- I haven't ever kept the ball down ever but I never try to hit hard either - Use your wrists and Place it. (even two fielders can't protect that behind square leg side boundary if you know u can control the shot). Finish your shot atleast facing Square leg umpire if not further.

Hope this helps.

Jag.
Title: Re: Pull/Hook Shot
Post by: Watsontotty on May 18, 2012, 07:33:12 PM
try walking down the pitch and tell the bowler if he drops another one short you will ensure he never bowls again.