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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: rp27 on June 18, 2012, 10:53:13 AM
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News has broken on the internet of his death in an accident this morning, tragic! RIP
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R.I.P.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2012/content/current/story/568862.html
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sad news. some reports say tube incident others say car crash? either way not good news. mail online is saying district line train hit him.
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swear word
that is terrible
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R.I.P.
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Very sad, couldn't believe it when I saw it online. Was looking forward to him coming into the full England team soon.
Plus he was the only county cricketer to accept my friend request on Facebook! RIP
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Very sad indeed
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Terrible news. A great talent but even so......... a very very sad day for England cricket! RIP, really enjoyed watching him play!
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It puts everything into perspective. Nobody deserves to go that young. RIP.
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what was he doing on the tube at 5.03 am?
British Transport Police officers were called to the line near Wimbledon Park London Underground station. A statement said: "The incident was reported to BTP at 5.03am and was also attended by Metropolitan Police officers. London Ambulance Service medics attended but the man, believed to be 23 years old, was pronounced dead at the scene. The incident is currently being treated as non-suspicious."
It is believed Maynard may have been trying to escape police shortly before his death.
Officers tried to pull over a black Mercedes, which was being driven 'erratically', an hour before Maynard's body was found on the tracks.
A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: 'At approx 4.15am on Monday, 18 June, officers stopped a vehicle after it was seen being driven erratically in Arthur Road, SW19.
'The male driver of the vehicle - a black Mercedes C250 - made off on foot. Officers were unable to locate the man.
'At approx 5.10am the body of a man fitting the same description was found on tracks near Wimbledon Park station.'
The force added that it was still trying to identify the man found on the tracks and that the Directorate of Professional Standards and the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) have been informed.
England were practising at Maynard’s home ground of the Kia Oval ahead of Tuesday’s second one-day international when the news began to emerge. The players are said to be in shock.
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RIP Tom, incredibly sad news, such a talent.
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Sad day for the cricketing world. :(
R.I.P
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RIP Tom, my thoughts are with his family and friends.
A huge talent lost!
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what was he doing on the tube at 5.03 am?
British Transport Police officers were called to the line near Wimbledon Park London Underground station. A statement said: "The incident was reported to BTP at 5.03am and was also attended by Metropolitan Police officers. London Ambulance Service medics attended but the man, believed to be 23 years old, was pronounced dead at the scene. The incident is currently being treated as non-suspicious."
Maybe been out and had a few and stumbled over?
I know i've got the tube back to my mates after a night out in the big smoke
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Now being reported he was running away from police after he had been pulled over in his car. Awful news, truly awful.
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Looks horribly like a spot of drunk driving followed by running away on foot and accidentally ending up in front of a tube, following the BBC reports of the police comments. Especially as the police are saying that it's not suspicious.
Sad day for all who knew him. :(
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A Metropolitan Police spokesman said: "At approximately 04:15 BST on Monday, 18 June, officers stopped a vehicle after it was seen being driven erratically in Arthur Road, SW19.
"The male driver of the vehicle - a black Mercedes C250 - made off on foot. Officers were unable to locate the man.
"At approximately 05:10 BST the body of a man fitting the same description was found on tracks near Wimbledon Park station."
London Ambulance Service medics were called but Maynard was pronounced dead at the scene.
British Transport Police (BTP) said the death was not being treated as suspicious.
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very sad
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Running away from the police? Getting hit by a train? If true, then what a stupid way to go...sad news, he looked a real talent.
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i think it may be a bit insensitive of the met police to report about the stopping of the car. maybe a few days later.
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I'm absolutely devastated :(
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Sad, sad news...
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i think it may be a bit insensitive of the met police to report about the stopping of the car. maybe a few days later.
Not insensitive; just making sure all facts are in the open to stop unfounded rumours.
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whatever may or may not have happened, lets not forget that the big story here is the loss of a wonderfully talented young cricketer. All of our thoughts should be with his family and friends.
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I didn't know Tom, but several of my teammates were big mates with him. Our skipper is (was?) his agent, and I'm sure his ex Glamorgan colleagues will also be devastated, particularly Will Bragg and the Harrison brothers.
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Sounds like he was trapped in a series of misfortunes after making one initial mistake.
He did not deserve to pay with his life.
Tragic. RIP.
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I feel the same as what Josh Cobb tweeted '**** the details A champion bloke has gone and will be missed by so many' think its best not to question what he was doing.
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really tragic news, RIP Tom, however silly he may have been, he did not deserve to pay for it like this
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Tragic, talented young cricketer
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Terrible news, awful for his family and friends. Completely agree that the circumstances are irrelevant and whatever he did or didn't do this is tragic.
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Very shocked when seen the news today. A very sad loss.
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I'd just like to echo what everyone else said... my thoughts are with his family
RIP!
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Whatever the circumstances this is a tragic loss for his family and friends, thoughts are with them. RIP.
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i agree with everyone here huge loss for the world of cricket, massive talent lost will be sorely missed by surrey and im sure england too :( rip
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RIP Tom Maynard,a quality cricketer and is a very sad loss for english cricket.
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Such a shame, I remember him being interviewed in the Lions squad, on Cricket AM and playing at the weekend. RIP Tom.
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Please don't think me insensitive, as I genuinely believe this is a tragic incident, but I can't help but think what an absolute waste of a life this was. I don't want to second guess the circumstances, but from what has been reported, to lose your life over a probable drink driving charge just seems to me such a waste.
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Tragedy.
No other words to describe it.
I feel for his mum and dad right now.
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He was one of my favourite players. When I was first told he had died I didnt believe it. The when I looked myself I was actually upset. He was a great person, met him once, he seemed to be a great personand also have a good sense of humor. Also, obviously he was a great talent.
RIP Tom
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I don't know if you guys have seen this, but Lawrence Booth has written a very touching piece for his 'Top Spin' column.
Cricket is full of scripts. You can usually spot them a mile off: the carefree debut, the two-fingers-up return to form, the sinus-loosening last hurrah. And in their familiarity resides a certain comfort.
It matters not that you may already know, to an unhealthy degree, the prescribed possibilities of this diversionary world. Because you also know that, despite your better judgment, you'll never get bored of them. They're always just different enough to keep you interested, and besides – they're a damn sight less troublesome than those we meet in real life.
So it feels shocking when sport departs from its unwritten pledge to distract us a little, and to do it in terms we can all understand, if not necessarily emulate.
Tom Maynard was tall, dark, handsome, and talented. He could hit the ball a long way, and he could hit it often. His script may have been highly promising rather than once-in-a-blue-moon exceptional. But it was his script, his life, and it was well under way.
Hell, he'd deviate from it from time to time. He had already done so the previous weekend. But there was fun to be had – his and ours. Sport shouldn't be so demanding as to ask for much more than that.
Tom's story has ended differently now, on the tracks of a tube station while most of us were sleeping through the dawn chorus of Monday morning. Family and friends mourn a loved one. The rest of us respectfully wonder what might have been.
Not many hours earlier, he had been playing for Surrey against Kent at Beckenham. The day before that, he had appeared on Sky's Cricket AM, full of mischief. He was going places.
And he was striking. My girlfriend, no great sports fan, asked me not about the slightly shy figures of Jason Roy on one side of the Cricket AM sofa and Stuart Meaker on the other, but about the swarthy brunette in the middle. If he hadn't played for Surrey, you might be tempted to say he had a strut.
His death is an unmitigated tragedy. It is no more or less tragic than if the body found at Wimbledon Park station had belonged to a prince or a pauper. But the escapism of sport – and the significance society ascribes it – is such that any sudden descent into brutal reality can be especially painful.
Sportsmen are not supposed to die young. They may lapse into premature decline once their careers are over; they may be taken too soon from us by injury. But to die young is the preserve of the rock star. It is not part of the sporting deal, with its emphasis on athleticism and gilded youth.
How else to explain the astonishing response to the on-field collapse of Bolton midfielder Fabrice Muamba? Thousands perish every day in grim circumstances, yet it was the fate of a man most of us knew only distantly through the prism of Match of the Day that dominated the headlines.
Clearly, there was a very human empathy in the outpouring of concern for Muamba that day. But how much of it jostled for space with disbelief that a supposedly inviolate world had suffered an intrusion more commonly reserved for you or me? When a footballer has a weak heart, what hope is there for the rest of us?
Muamba survived, thank God, but Tom Maynard was less fortunate. A son, a team-mate, a hope and a dream. And above all, a human being.
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A son, a team-mate, a hope and a dream. And above all, a human being.
That sums it up really.
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A son, a team-mate, a hope and a dream. And above all, a human being.
That sums it up really.
Nuff said, I don't know if it's me getting emotional in my old age, but I still feel shocked and numb...
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Had the pleasure of watching him in county 2nd X1 cricket, and he was 17, and boy could he strike the ball!
Huge loss for the game, and the world.
RIP
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the inquest into Tom's death is tomorrow. going to drag up some unpleasant memories.
The events which led to the death of Tom
Maynard should become clear on Tuesday
when the inquest into what led the
cricketer to be hit by a train takes place in
London.
A jury at Westminster Coroners’ Court will
hear how the Surrey and England Lions
batsman was killed aged 23 after running
on to a London Underground track at
Wimbledon Park station in the early hours
of June 18.
Maynard was said to have been
electrocuted after fleeing from police,
having been pulled over for driving
“erratically” on the way to visiting his
girlfriend, model Carly Baker.
She is expected to give evidence at the
one-day inquest, along with Maynard’s
former Surrey team-mates Jade
Dernbach and Rory Hamilton-Brown, who
are thought to be among the last people
to see him alive on the night he died.
The train driver and police officer could
also give evidence but Maynard’s family,
including his father Matthew, the former
England batsman, are not expected to
attend. Instead, they are thought to be
planning to release a statement upon the
outcome of the inquest, as are the
England and Wales Cricket Board and
Surrey County Cricket Club.
Surrey chief executive Richard Gould is
expected to be there, as is a
representative of the ECB and
Professional Cricketers’ Association chief
executive Angus Porter.
Cardiff-born Maynard’s death came a day
after he played for Surrey in a Twenty20
game against Kent. He came through the
ranks at Glamorgan, was considered a
rising star and earned himself a place on
the England Lions tour to Bangladesh and
Sri Lanka at the start of last year.
He moved to the Oval for the 2011 season
following his father’s exit as coach from
the Welsh county in 2010.
News of his death prompted a flood of
tributes from within and beyond the world
of cricket.
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quite - I doubt the story will be an edifying one, albeit no Pistorius!
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Humm - so far going worse than I had imagined.
What concerns me is that Jade Dernbach will have to admit to a significant drug and drinking culture within the Surrey dressing room... which could lead to him and others being banned too.
What a grim story.
A brilliant young cricketer had been using cocaine daily for months and was four times over the drink-drive limit when he was killed on a rail track, an inquest heard today.
Tom Maynard, the Surrey batsman who was expected to be selected for England, was hit by a London Underground train after running away from police who had earlier stopped him on suspicion of drink-driving in June last year.
Westminster Coroners’ Court heard that Maynard, 23, had gone drinking with two team-mates at The Ship pub in Wandsworth, South London, following Surrey’s Twenty20 defeat against Kent.
The players returned to the nearby home they shared and Maynard called his girlfriend Carly Baker, an underwear model, at 3.30am, saying he wanted to see her.
PC David Wishart told the court he was on duty in an unmarked police car in Wandsworth when they saw Maynard’s black Mercedes driving erratically at 4am.
The officer followed the car to a dead-end road where Maynard was trying to perform a U-turn.
When police turned on their blue lights Maynard fled the car owned by Surrey Cricket Club.
The player left behind his BlackBerry telephone with his Facebook page still open. The last call was to a contact identified as Lady Tiger, said PC Wishart.
PC Tara Wallond told the court that the woman named Lady Tiger called Maynard’s telephone but did not give her details and did not call back as requested.
Police dog search teams joined the hunt for Maynard but could not find him, the court was told.
The court heard that a driver of a District Line train saw Maynard lying on tracks between Wimbledon Park and Southfields stations in South London at 5am.
Martin Hopping, the train driver, said he initially thought white ballast bags had been left on the tracks.
“To my horror I saw a pair of trainers,” he said. “[The person] was perfectly still lying across all four tracks. The arms were down by its side.
“The impression I had was not that it had fallen but that this person had laid down.”
Dr Simon Poole, a forensic pathologist, said Maynard had burns on his right foot and ankle consistent with contact with a live rail track but he could not say whether it occurred before or after death.
He said that that electrocution could have killed the player or left him unconscious.
Dr Poole said tests showed that Maynard had taken ecstasy, cocaine and was almost four times the drink-drive limit when he was killed.
Dr Rosa Cordero told the court that analysis of Maynard’s hair showed that player had being taking cocaine habitually for three-and-a-half months.
Jade Dernbach, the England and Surrey fast bowler, and Rory Hamilton–Brown, who was Surrey captain at the time, are due to give evidence to the inquest.
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RHB and Dernbach both deny any knowledge of Maynard's drug use.
Coroner says it was daily use too.
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That culture has been going on at Surrey for years.......
I can't imagine it will last much longer if a certain Mr G Smith has anything to do with it though. He could be exactly what they need.
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RHB and Dernbach both deny any knowledge of Maynard's drug use.
I can't believe that this is true - it was common knowledge amoungst his mates (according to a mutual friends)
I can't imagine it will last much longer if a certain Mr G Smith has anything to do with it though. He could be exactly what they need.
don't forget that youngster Ricky Ponting - he might be a help too :)
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Hopefully help will be available for any of the players that may need it.
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Long bans should be made available to them, thats for certain.
At any county other than Surrey it would certainly happen.
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Doesnt someone have to fail a drugs test before they can be banned?
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Are the players not drug tested regularly?
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They're meant to be available at all times if WADA drop them a line (pardon the pun).
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Are the players not drug tested regularly?
Dernbach has stated in court that in some years players can be drug tested 8-9 times. In other years once or twice. Sounds like its randomised.
If your on twitter, follow @NHoultCricket who is at the inquest.
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Does make you question the culture at Surrey on the back of this. Does this mean that Dernbach and RHB were also involved as they were out with him on that fateful night? Might explain why Surrey have roped in all these old hands at the club?
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If it's anything like cycling was then it would seem to be fairly easy to avoid the tests!
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Does make you question the culture at Surrey on the back of this. Does this mean that Dernbach and RHB were also involved as they were out with him on that fateful night? Might explain why Surrey have roped in all these old hands at the club?
Wondering on a forum isn't always the best thing, I think it's dangerous to speculate.
I think you have to take the fact that both RHB and JD say they didn't know about what Maynard got up to as the truth.
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http://www.thepca.co.uk/pca_comment_on_the_tom_maynard_inquest.html (http://www.thepca.co.uk/pca_comment_on_the_tom_maynard_inquest.html)
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Wondering on a forum isn't always the best thing, I think it's dangerous to speculate.
I think you have to take the fact that both RHB and JD say they didn't know about what Maynard got up to as the truth.
That's true enough.
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Wondering on a forum isn't always the best thing, I think it's dangerous to speculate.
I think you have to take the fact that both RHB and JD say they didn't know about what Maynard got up to as the truth.
Yes and no - they are not as of now going to be convicted of anything, but they have to accept that they are tainted by suspicion until they can provide definitive proof of their innocence (because the amounts thjat are being talked about for Maynard's consumption are such that their defence that they did not know will not hold even a drop of water!).
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Absolutely no coincidence to me that the club are looking to world-class experienced players in Smith and Ponting to lead and mentor...
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Absolutely no coincidence to me that the club are looking to world-class experienced players in Smith and Ponting to lead and mentor...
Surrey have had an odd culture for a few years now - buying up old county hacks and young up and coming players with nothing in between. Smith and Ponting at least, even if they are not in the first flush of youth (hell, Punter is in the third flush of middle age!), will be more respected role models that the likes of Batty and Slogdonkey.
But - there have been unhealthy rumours about the Surrey dressing room going back to the Hollioake era. Something needs to be done about it!
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Really do hope its not true and until someone says otherwise i'd like to think not but I do hope that RHB didn't move because he was doing a similar thing to TM and wanted to get away before he was next.
Just strikes me as him possibly getting away from it all and meaning there is a culture of this at Surrey
I will say it again though, I hope its not true
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Have to say, that was also my first thought - he and Maynard had been close since school and, in the absence of a more credible defence such as "well, I knew he dabbled but we each make our choices - I chose to abstain", it does look somewhat dubious...
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So the jury has been directed to give a verdict of Accidental Death or Narrative.
not sure it matters much which, but I suspect it will be Narrative Accidental Death, based on what has been reported.
Neither will have much impact, the publication of the culture at the club is a damming indictment on Chris Adams
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The best thing that ever happened to Yorkshire - Chris Adams deciding not to join us!
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It may not be a culture Buzz, it seems as Tom Maynard liked the naughty stuff a bit too much which can happen when young men get a decent salary at their age, it's the lifestyle in a lot of cases. Just because he came unstuck (in a terrible and tragic way) - that doesn't mean to say the rest of the squad spend their free time dropping a load of pills and driving like loons. This may be news to Chris Adams himself?
Whatever happened, it's a bloody waste of a really talented player and man, and I hope it's an isolated incident. Cricket is the sport that doesn't want the headlines the footballers get.
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whatever happened that night tom maynard's death was a tragedy, young guys earning big money at a young age can cause problems.Surrey seem to be throwing money at players these days,Maynard took the wrong route but i'd be amazed if he was the only one and I have no idea what goes on at Surrey...
RHB's big move back to a more family club-Sussex-is the best thing he's ever done.
Away from London,away from the distractions and back to people who know him well.
I'm absolutley sure Smith coming to Surrey is for a reason......
I've never been convinced by Chris Adams, he's a player who never really made it and oozes arrogance without backing it up.
Expect Smith to run the show lock,stock and barrel.
Ponting is also a great signing-these guys know how to lead on and off the field.
like him or hate them Ponting and Smith have what it takes to straighten out any problems.
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I expect that Smith and Ponting are going for profile and to win stuff, not for pastoral care.
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I expect that Smith and Ponting are going for profile and to win stuff lots of money, not for pastoral care.
I think it will be the example they set that is what the club is looking for.
I suspect Ponting has a nice little luctrative TV/Radio commentary gig lined up too.
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I'd be shocked if Ponting does nothing at all during the Ahses - he's an eloquent speaker when he wants to be and his name has cachet. TMS, possibly? If not, one of the Australian broadcasters.
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Smith is on a 3 year deal at Surrey, i'm sure the top brass there do want someone to lead from the front and change the culture there long term
I'm no fan of Smith but it's un-arguable he's a top leader
what he has done for South African cricket is remarkable
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This from The Guardian this morning - decent insight from Ramps
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/feb/27/tom-maynard-drugs-mark-ramprakash (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/feb/27/tom-maynard-drugs-mark-ramprakash)
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Doesn't really shed that much light on anything. He was young and he was tempted. It will be more interesting to see whether it is a systematic problem across cricket or an isolated incident.
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It'll be a wake up call for the other guys that's for sure!
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Not that I do anything like it (never even had a cigarette before!), but amongst people my age doing this kind of recreational stuff seems pretty accepted and the norm, its very worrying how easy some of this stuff is to get!
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I'm sure he won't have been the only one.
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Ramps talked about the changing culture last year in the Surrey dressing room and the amount of money and temptation on offer
clearly he views things differently, i'm sure when he joined Middx they all liked a few beers back then but drugs I don't reckon would have been part of the culture he grew in in pro cricket
I met him last year lovely fella and a top top dedicated professional
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Ramps and Adams have a different view on the goings on - it isn't a surprise that Ramps had to retire.
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yes I think you are spot on there Buzz :)
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Not that I do anything like it (never even had a cigarette before!), but amongst people my age doing this kind of recreational stuff seems pretty accepted and the norm, its very worrying how easy some of this stuff is to get!
Agreed. Temptation is always there, just depends if you are strong enough to hold out. Especially if I was getting the money these lads were getting at 20 years old.
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Does anyone know how much lads like Maynard, Roy and RHB were/are making?
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Tom probably knows
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a county captain would be be £40k plus surely
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yes plus win bonus, final bonus,sponsorship etc on top on that for a top player
Surrey are one of the highest paying Counties.
Since Chris Adams got there it's basically been open cheques and they now have a huge playing staff.
Whether that's the right way to go i'm not sure but it's modern professional sport.
some of the other Counties are not in that league thou
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a county captain would be be £40k plus surely
you can double that and some.
the salary cap for counties is £1.9mln for the playing staff.
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you can double that and some.
the salary cap for counties is £1.9mln for the playing staff.
Wow - not a bad business if you can get it.
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you can double that and some.
the salary cap for counties is £1.9mln for the playing staff.
Depends where I would expect
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Players like Harmison, Trescothick and Hoggard signed contracts around the 100k-130k mark when their central contracts expired. Very promising pros, especially ones around the 21-24 bracket, probably attract between 40k and 100k depending on teh county. Surrey, Hampshire, Lancs and Notts are known to be the most generous remunerators...
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I knew I should have stayed on with S.E Hants when I was younger...if it wasn't for that knee injury...
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I knew I should have stayed on with S.E Hants when I was younger...if it wasn't for that knee injury...
I knew I should have not been terrible...