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Equipment => Helmets => Topic started by: tim2000s on June 20, 2012, 11:27:22 PM

Title: Top edge to the chin, or the Ian Bell injury...
Post by: tim2000s on June 20, 2012, 11:27:22 PM
I'm surprised that no-one has brought this up, but Ian Bell would have been wearing a helmet when he top edged the ball into his chin. The helmet grille clearly hasn't stopped the ball, in fact, the ball seems to have completely missed it. This raises a couple of questions for me, but I wonder what others think.

The first is that I don't believe the grille position extends around under the chin enough. Certainly, my Ayrtek fits me better than either a Masuri or an Albion, and I do worry that an edge or sharp lifter would get to me due to the position relative to my chin. As our resident expert Tom, what's your view on this?

The second is whether, had he been wearing his Ayrtek, he would have suffered less damage...?

Title: Re: Top edge to the chin, or the Ian Bell injury...
Post by: bigboy on June 20, 2012, 11:35:11 PM
Perhaps if he was wearing his masuri correctly the damage would have been less. All of these injuries come from players not wearing helmets according to manufacturers instructions.
Title: Re: Top edge to the chin, or the Ian Bell injury...
Post by: Cover_Drive on June 20, 2012, 11:50:44 PM
I'm sure Bell was wearing his Masuri properly.

However, chin is vulnerable area and it is exposed. I became friends with one of forum member, towson80 who have been hit on his chin few times so to avoid that he uses fielding grill.

The only protection to chin is really the chin strap, some area is still exposed.
Title: Re: Top edge to the chin, or the Ian Bell injury...
Post by: Jaymo on June 21, 2012, 01:18:00 AM
Id say most cricketers will go through their careers never being hit on the chin, its quite a rare one.....

Guess if they added extra protection for the chin like the fielding grill it would make the grill get in the way of possibly your collar bone etc?
Title: Re: Top edge to the chin, or the Ian Bell injury...
Post by: bigboy on June 21, 2012, 02:07:23 AM
I'm sure Bell was wearing his Masuri properly.

However, chin is vulnerable area and it is exposed. I became friends with one of forum member, towson80 who have been hit on his chin few times so to avoid that he uses fielding grill.

The only protection to chin is really the chin strap, some area is still exposed.
Wearing the chin cup on your chin is the correct way to wear any helmet, not dangling around your throat.
Title: Re: Top edge to the chin, or the Ian Bell injury...
Post by: Johnny on June 21, 2012, 07:35:49 AM
I didn't think he did have a lid on - I read he was just having TDs when it happened
Title: Re: Top edge to the chin, or the Ian Bell injury...
Post by: Tom on June 21, 2012, 11:14:04 AM
Masuri have just launched a new design which should protect the chin more:

(http://www.cricketinsight.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/HelmetFinal-12-610x408.jpg)
Title: Re: Top edge to the chin, or the Ian Bell injury...
Post by: straightdrive1 on June 21, 2012, 11:52:55 AM
Looks weird.Waiting to see the Pros use it.
Title: Re: Top edge to the chin, or the Ian Bell injury...
Post by: langer17 on June 21, 2012, 11:58:15 AM
A few of them have been using a different grill already this year
Title: Re: Top edge to the chin, or the Ian Bell injury...
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on June 21, 2012, 03:54:00 PM
sorry only just seen this as been on the road for the last 2 days!

difficult to quantify as your natural reaction is to pull your head back away from the ball that may rear up off a length therefore exposing your throat and chin area due to this. We certainly tried to get our grille design to wrap around under the chin section as you have seen when we tweaked the angle to improve the fit on our newer grilles compared to our older version.

Without seeing actual footage of the incident its hard to see or point out what preventions could have been made to avoid it. If he had a chin cup on it would have softened the blow as they obviously have an element of padding to them, if he just had the chin strap under his jaw then it will have clocked him on the chin causing the cut.
Title: Re: Top edge to the chin, or the Ian Bell injury...
Post by: Tail Ender on June 22, 2012, 01:25:57 AM
Is that Masuri grille for real or a p!ss take?
Title: Re: Top edge to the chin, or the Ian Bell injury...
Post by: Nickauger on June 22, 2012, 08:20:44 AM
Looks like I'd better get my new Masuri soon, before that monstrosity becomes available!
Title: Re: Top edge to the chin, or the Ian Bell injury...
Post by: Jaymo on June 22, 2012, 09:59:26 AM
Does look very odd, I hope the still make the old grill!

Frontal view needed!