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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: Chad on July 29, 2012, 10:01:50 PM
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So, my friend decided not to take my advice to prepare his bat properly by oiling and knocking. After having a big swipe at a ball, the bat sounds a bit weird, but he plays on with it. Then he attempts to drive my yorker and found his bat like this... I think these pictures speak for themselves...
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u419/Chaddy_117/GlasgowCity-20120716-00554.jpg)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u419/Chaddy_117/GlasgowCity-20120716-00553.jpg)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u419/Chaddy_117/GlasgowCity-20120716-00552.jpg)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u419/Chaddy_117/GlasgowCity-20120716-00551.jpg)
I will be trying to repair this for him, although it looks unlikely it will last. I did warn him though! Poor bat... :( Has 40mm edges and about 60mm spine at 2lb 9.75oz with 7 very nice evenly spaced out grains.
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Its a shame, what are the chances that it was overdried?
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Ive seen a few ca's split like that
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It's not a brand I would ever feel totally comfortable buying.....
Looks really, really dry.....ugly crack...all in all a bit of a mess!
An expensive mistake I imagine?
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Chances are pretty high, but I think the fact he hadn't oiled it and had it for a year probably dried it even more! A very stupid mistake indeed! I will post up pictures when I have finished the attempted repair and sanded and oiled it. It went like an absolute gun as well... :( Now that I have found my handle preference, I would never buy a CA unless it was on a very good offer. You would think that they would make an oval handle version for these (especially at prices around £200), but I hear players in Pakistan play more wristy shots, so I guess it's what is best for them. :)
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That is very broken lol
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Ive tried a few CA, super bats and play fantastic from day one. Great if you want something for a quick thrash as they are huge.
Too pricey for me and they dont last very long either for what you pay for a top end model. Incidently the CA lam I have has taken some punishment and is going strong!!
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That is very broken lol
Indeed, and you thought your Hattori was bad! :P This was done by a proper cricket ball too!
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You can easily get oval handl bats in Pakistan.
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Yup. Looks really dry.
It's not a brand I would ever feel totally comfortable buying.....
Looks really, really dry.....ugly crack...all in all a bit of a mess!
An expensive mistake I imagine?
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Ive tried a few CA, super bats and play fantastic from day one. Great if you want something for a quick thrash as they are huge.
Too pricey for me and they dont last very long either for what you pay for a top end model. Incidently the CA lam I have has taken some punishment and is going strong!!
Yeah, they are far too pricey. I would rather go with a sponsor on the forum than buy a CA tbh! I agree that they do hit well, but I have seen about 4 broken CAs so far. MB Malik are the worst though; I have seen many of them break. However, I don't know why, but everytime I used an MB Malik, all I could think about was hitting the ball as hard as I could! I guess it's because I think of them as sloggers bats, although some of them are very nice indeed. Wouldn't really ever think of buying one though!
You can easily get oval handl bats in Pakistan.
I'm sure you can! I just find it odd how they never really make CAs with oval handles. None that I have seen anyways... ???
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Right, here are pics of the bat in my house, and what I have done to it...
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u419/Chaddy_117/P1020709.jpg)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u419/Chaddy_117/P1020710.jpg)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u419/Chaddy_117/P1020711.jpg)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u419/Chaddy_117/P1020712.jpg)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u419/Chaddy_117/P1020713.jpg)
Will post up pics later on after the glue has dried. :)
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I wouldn't totally write it off. A carpenter that I know reckons that glued wood is stronger than the parts that are not glued, and breakages usually come in other areas. Mind you, he wasn't talking about cricket bats. But I suppose the bottom line is that it might go again somewhere else.
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guys from Kippax told me the same thing. The glue is stronger than the wood so if it binds ok it should hold. I glued up a bat for a team mate in worse condition pre-season and it's still going strong.
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Plenty of runs left in that bat, i have fixed alot worse.
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Yeah, I just used strong PVA glue. Not too happy with it to be honest... I was thinking of opening the polyurethane glue and using it, but I didn't want to use it inside the house. :P Apparently it can glue wood to metal! :o
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PVA should be fine. Bit late to tell you this, but one way to get the glue right inside any cracks (ok, ok, I know...) is to put plenty on, then use a drinking straw to blow it into the crack.
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(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u419/Chaddy_117/P1020714.jpg)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u419/Chaddy_117/P1020715.jpg)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u419/Chaddy_117/P1020716.jpg)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u419/Chaddy_117/P1020717.jpg)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u419/Chaddy_117/P1020718.jpg)
I'm annoyed that it isn't even on the face... Maybe I should have clamped it up further up the face rather than near the toe? time for some sanding and oiling. It's perhaps the driest bat I have ever handled... :S
That's cardboard on the face btw. I wanted something to prevent the clamp from denting the bat, although now that I think of it... It is only really required on the back of the bat...
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PVA should be fine. Bit late to tell you this, but one way to get the glue right inside any cracks (ok, ok, I know...) is to put plenty on, then use a drinking straw to blow it into the crack.
Hahaha :P I just use a bone handled knife to get it deep into the crack. The crack was so big that the glue pretty much just seeped in, despite it being quite viscous. Will try the straw method next time though! 8)
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Just how the bat looks like now. Not bad for a first major repair! The bat was so dry that practically drank the first coat of oil while I put it on! :P
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u419/Chaddy_117/GlasgowCity-20120801-00560.jpg)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u419/Chaddy_117/GlasgowCity-20120801-00562.jpg)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u419/Chaddy_117/GlasgowCity-20120801-00565.jpg)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u419/Chaddy_117/GlasgowCity-20120801-00569.jpg)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u419/Chaddy_117/GlasgowCity-20120801-00570.jpg)
(http://i1066.photobucket.com/albums/u419/Chaddy_117/GlasgowCity-20120801-00572.jpg)
That's it pretty much finished. I may glue up the surface cracks and then varnish them, but not sure. How much would you charge for this repair if you did it?
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Job looks good. As for charging your friend, cost of materials + a few beers
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PVA should be fine. Bit late to tell you this, but one way to get the glue right inside any cracks (ok, ok, I know...) is to put plenty on, then use a drinking straw to blow it into the crack.
Blowing in the glue using a straw - now why didn't I think of tht before That's a great tip, thanks mate!
And nice job gluing that up Chad. Let us know how it holds up after a few batting sessions.
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Rather than starting a new topic i thought i could post here and ask a question.
One of my teammate broke his bat in similar fashion to the CA on here, on his the cracked area is bigger but crack itself is not as wide. How do you open up the crack a little bit to get the glue in? I can then use a straw to make sure glue penetrates, then tie it with twine and clamp but i am a little unsure on how to get the glue in there in the first place!!
any help would be great, I will post a pic up later today as my BB pics aren't that clear...
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Try using an old, fairly blunt knife. Insert the blade then twist gently.
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Try using an old, fairly blunt knife. Insert the blade then twist gently.
Ok thanks mate, tried it last night but it looked like it was compressing the wood so stopped. I guess it wouldn't hurt to try again considering i might be more awake today then i was last night at 3 am trying to fix the bat :-[
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I use an old fashioned bone handled cake knife. I got 4 of them off Ebay for around 6 pounds. They do the job wonderfully, as they are very thin and quite flexible and haven't snapped. You just wedge it into the crack from the toe and open it up slightly, then add the glue in. Advantage of it being a thin knife is that it can squeeze through the very thin gaps, and also you could use the knife to push the glue into the gap before using the straw method to finish it off. I should start doing youtube uploads of repairs, as I feel that people should learn how to do these things, as it helps them get to know the bat better and take better care of their bat overall. Also saves a few quid! :P
An alternative to the knife would actually be a spatula used in chemistry labs. Being a Chemical Engineering student, I had to buy one, and found that it was pretty thin and sturdy on the wedge side. (Don't use the scoop side, as it is a little thicker and curved, you may open the crack a little more than intended) Remember to try only open the crack just enough to get the glue deep inside. I was lucky that the work was already mostly done for me by the batsman! 8)
Clamp wise, put something to cushion the back and edges while clamping, as these are vulnerable to dents, if you are using clamps similar to mine of a vice. Would also recommend using two clamps in different directions like I have to improve the fit of the repair. In this case, I used bits of cardboard. Only downside is the cardboard can stick to the bat and rip slightly, but it really isn't much of a bother
The CA here has actually been used for a few net sessions and 2 games now, and the batsman says it is still going strong. Twine is a great idea, just bind like 4 rows of it round the toe with PVA glue, and don't forget to glue over the twine after the glue has set it in place. Also, I would add a little varnish only the cracked area for additional protection against moisture, and make sure to shoe-goo the toe. It will probably help more than a toe guard, and don't be afraid to overlap the goo a few mm onto the face and back, as this will protect the wood when tapping the bat and sliding it in! Just a few tips I feel make a difference! :)
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Ok thanks mate, tried it last night but it looked like it was compressing the wood so stopped. I guess it wouldn't hurt to try again considering i might be more awake today then i was last night at 3 am trying to fix the bat :-[
If you are using a butter knife, that may happen. By old, I think he meant the old fashioned ones which are thinner! I hope this helps, and any problems, feel free to PM me. Gotta share the knowledge! 8) Also, anyone needing repair advice, or actual repairs, PM me. I would happily repair for a small fee to cover the material costs and a little for labour, assuming you are happy to pay the postage costs. :) I have had an obsession with bats since I bought my second bat, a Genesis Tornado, and have picked up little repair tips through the years, so do repairs and maintenance as a hobby. :D
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I have had an obsession with bats since I bought my second bat, a Genesis Tornado, and have picked up little repair tips through the years, so do repairs and maintenance as a hobby. :D
Im the same, actually enjoy repairing them and attempting refurbs, just need one of mine to get a massive crack in and i can get to work with a straw and knife :D
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Ok thanks everyone, and Chad will pm you if i struggle tonight mate thanks....I have done a rehandle in past but had the luxury of my friends workshop & tools but this is going to be at home...i have some clamps and will most likely used some plywood pieces to evenly distribute the pressure / not damage the bat...