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General Cricket => Cricket Training, Fitness and Injuries => Topic started by: Bruce on September 03, 2012, 10:03:13 AM
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For me, I'll be hoping to continue my indoor form from my 1st Indoor season. I don't know what my average was but I batted 7 times and only got out twice. Once on about 12 and the other after retiring at 25.
From a technique point of view. want to continue working on my back lift, getting it to come down strait. I've improved a lot from how wide I was bringing the bat down but still room for improvement.
Also I'd like to try and address the cut shot again.
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Getting the hop skip and jump out of my bowling.
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My fitness is a big one for me, 30 at the end of the month and having spend a packet on a posh bike i have riden it twice since getting in in April!
going to start riding it in an attempt to improve my general fitness levels and drop a big of weight, Indoor league starts too so i will be keeping in touch with my game which wasnt as good as last seasons effort in the league.
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I'll be trying to work out how not to get hit by quick yorkers on middle and leg and getting pinged LBW! At least half my dismissals this season have been due to that...
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I actually have quite a list of things to work on:
General fitness
Getting my weight down from 14 stone to 13
Really improve my batting, just so that I am not the guy with 'all the gear and no idea'
Refine both my inswinger and outswinger, and learn how to bowl cutters
Get a little more pacey, around 70mph
Improve a lot on my fielding
Take up some sprint training again
Resist buying any more bats!!!
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Off season so fitness must be top - doing a triathlon in October plus my brother is tempting me to do an event call the Tough Mudder in May next year, so may have to get my agility up as well!
Cricket wise I was contemplating playing some indoor cricket as I've never done that before. Just need to find a team to play for now! But should hopefully stop me from trying to leather every single ball! :(
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I'll be trying to work out how not to get hit by quick yorkers on middle and leg and getting pinged LBW! At least half my dismissals this season have been due to that...
Are you getting out because are missing the ball because of trying to whip it off your legs or being deceived by the pace of the ball?
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I will be working on my six pack, and basically doing ridiculous amounts of cardio as opposed to lifting silly weights all the time
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I will be working on my six pack, and basically doing ridiculous amounts of cardio as opposed to lifting silly weights all the time
you big tart ;)
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you big tart ;)
hahaha that was Tai btw ;)
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Seeing if my right foot still works on a football pitch
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Trying to remember a time when I could bat......
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Working on fitness, shed at least half a stone.
Put on a little bit of pace with bowling, blag myself a few overs at uni and force my club captain to use me next summer!
Also finish getting rid of the gap between bat and pad to make my defence a bit more solid.
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I'll be trying to work out how not to get hit by quick yorkers on middle and leg and getting pinged LBW! At least half my dismissals this season have been due to that...
I used to get out LBW quite a lot, but I recently changed from a middle to a leg stump guard, and haven't been dismissed this way since. It definitely helps, so I would suggest you maybe consider adopting this guard as well...
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I'm with Paul on this one. Leg stump guard.
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getting fitter & Turning my 4 pack into an 8 pack.. Tracking down a wheelie bag that does what I need it to do and getting my hands on a Indian bat, all before January nets. Then it will be batting sessions and lots of them in the hope I might score at least one TON before I cant play cricket anymore...
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Working on my spin bowling with looking to sort a couple of new deliveries. Also looking to improve my shots on the offside as I play most of my shots leg side.
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I used to get out LBW quite a lot, but I recently changed from a middle to a leg stump guard, and haven't been dismissed this way since. It definitely helps, so I would suggest you maybe consider adopting this guard as well...
This is something I've considered as I tend to get out to very full leg/middle stump balls, my only concern is that I do favour the leg side so shifting my stance might cut down on the amount of leg/wider deliveries that I try to hit.
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Rest from playing cricket from until mid January, let all those niggles sort themselves out by:
September
Nothing
October - November
Foam rolling daily
Stretching daily
December
Conitinue stretching and foam rolling
Shadow batting in mirror
start some fitness/speed work using a skipping rope
Jan - march
For first time in 5 years I'm going to do some serious work on my batting technique
More open stance to improve head position
Backlift hand position
Back foot position in all shots
April
Outdoor nets
May.
Reality that I did none of the above and can't hit a ball!!!
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I will be working on my golf over the winter and crack on with my new fitness regime, I have lost 8 stone already so just need to keep it going.
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This winter is going to be all fitness and strength training.
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I used to get out LBW quite a lot, but I recently changed from a middle to a leg stump guard, and haven't been dismissed this way since. It definitely helps, so I would suggest you maybe consider adopting this guard as well...
Seconded! I only got out once LBW this year after changing my guard in June.
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Are you getting out because are missing the ball because of trying to whip it off your legs or being deceived by the pace of the ball?
I think more than anything early on in an innings I just plant my leg down the track and play round the pad.
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I used to get out LBW quite a lot, but I recently changed from a middle to a leg stump guard, and haven't been dismissed this way since. It definitely helps, so I would suggest you maybe consider adopting this guard as well...
Good thinking chaps. We'll see how it goes!
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Hoping to get some decent nets in to play in a new bat. It should give me more incentive to try to improve on my woeful technique, rather than trying to hit the cover off the ball. :o
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By this time next year I want to be able to day I'm averaging 40+ in 1st XI cricket, instead of 26 like the past 2 years. Any long term winter tips from the mighty Buzz?
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I think more than anything early on in an innings I just plant my leg down the track and play round the pad.
In an ideal world, you would come down the tract to these, make them into full tosses, playing your shot with the full width of the bat.
Something to work on ;)
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By this time next year I want to be able to day I'm averaging 40+ in 1st XI cricket, instead of 26 like the past 2 years. Any long term winter tips from the mighty Buzz?
Well I think looking at trying to iron out the slice from my golf swing, working on my draw slightly and improving my short game to get a few shots off my handicap will help...
I will think about a more serious answer on the train home ;)
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By this time next year I want to be able to day I'm averaging 40+ in 1st XI cricket, instead of 26 like the past 2 years. Any long term winter tips from the mighty Buzz?
here goes...
Ok, so a lot of my thoughts are in the how to score a hundred thread, relating to building an innings, so the logical thought would be to start with that.
The second thing I would say is that when you go to nets if you are having issues, lots of people will offer suggestions, as with all advice, including this, you should only use what works for you. My suggestion is that you stick with one voice, don't have multiple coaches as they will have different views on style, some will work, some won't. That doesn't make either wrong.
Then I suppose I would think about looking at your dismissal percentages and look at themes. So for example I have played on multiple times this season, because I am not in a good position to play a shot or trying to hit the ball to hard.
Once you have analysed your dismissals you can work out technical issues to work on, so for me it will be timing and getting head and shoulders and then feet in a good position to play a shot outside the off stump.
Sometimes you might not know what the issue is, in which case I always say start with the basics, grip, stance, head position, shot selection. Have a video session, even just using a mobile phone can help. Sometimes that just gives you a bit of confidence. All beneficial.
Shot selection is of course mental. Firstly the fitter you are the easier you will find it to bat for long periods as you will make fewer mistakes. Also when working on shot selection you also need to know your favoured scoring areas, so mix working on them with other areas which are not so strong. Andy flower talks about having super strengths, like a robin smith cut or a trott work of the legs. So do work on them, but not exclusively on them!
When you are in the nets also work really hard at playing yourself in, have bowlers bowl six in a row at you, make your practice sessions game realistic where possible. Also get used to different bowlers this way.
If you frequently play spinners when you start batting, start in the spinners net, if you are an opener, get ready for the barrage if bouncers from the quicks off 18 yards...
Next, key if you want to average over 40 is that you need to cut out the dismissal between 10 and 30 where you give it away playing a shot you haven't been in for long enough to play. This seems simple but is really important. Learning patients in the nets is possible... just ask canners how often I have tried to block or leave 40 balls in a row with the bowling machine... and then ask how unsuccessful I am at it!
If you are a boundary hitter work at your defensive shots and how to turn dot balls into ones, rotating the strike makes life hard for bowlers, who then bowl more bad balls which means more opportunities.
So after that mini brain dump, I think you have some key areas...
Technique
Fitness
Building an innings
Mental training for batting for long periods of time
Oh and buy a new bat from a forum sponsor...
Thoughts?
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I think I might just print off that post, stick it in my bag and read it before every game!
Agree with all of that, and more specifically the fitness, shot selection and dismissal percentages. Definitely given me a lot to work with during the winter now, cheers mate!
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I've always had a very open stance, never made much runs because I kept getting out cheaply in random un-connected ways (stumped, one would keep low, bouncer which I fended straight up, chipped one to cover and one hit wicket) so I got coaching and was told to change my stance to a technically correct normal one, i.e both feet level (like kallis's or something). Since then I have repeatedly got out lbw on middle after missing leg glances or bowled attempting a leg glance - this never happened before, I was very prolific off my legs. So now I am gonna work on opening my stance back up again, and hopefully score some runs.
Also need to sort out my woeful bowling
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Excellent post that Buzz.
I see so many batsmen who have the ability to score centuries and half centuries but they haven't taken the time to understand how they are going to do it.
It's a good idea to write down your best shot and worst shot on the off and onside. You now know what you are going to try to do mote of and what you are going to do less of in an innings. It also gives you something tangible to work on over the winter. This way you will increase your chances of scoring and reduce your chances of getting out by strengthening your weaker areas.
It may be an idea to ditch a shot completely.
Personally when I go out to bat I know exactly where I plan to hit the ball based on my strengths. I take a couple of overs to work out if the pitch will allow it and then I reassess.
I like to:
Square and late cut
Straight drive
On drive
Pull/hook
I am not great at .... Cover drive and leg glance I can't play very well so don't bother
I also like to manipulate the field to help me score runs easier. I on drive to allow a man to be placed there. Then I go and drop it into the gap at midwicket for 1's so they move the gully/point into there. I may start going aerial on the in drive so they put him back. I then milk the singles to mid on. After about 20 overs the captain is totally puzzled moving fielders right left and centre trying to stop singles.
You will always get a boundary ball every 3 overs so you just need to turn those dits into 1's.
I am mote than happy to face 150 balls of a 50 over match and just hit 125 singles and nothing else.
One key skill to acquire is patience. Singles singles singles until you see the bad ball and then put it away. Think of the singles and the boundaries will come, sounds like something one of the old men in the club preaches but once you do it you will realise batting is fairly uncomplicated if you have a plan
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I need to work on the mental side of my batting. Thinking back over the season I've been out caught in front of the wicket nearly every time. I can even remember saying to myself as a bowler ran in 'this is his last ball, see him off' then swiping at a wide one and knocking it straight into the hands of the cover fielder! Mentally weak! Maybe a visit to a hypnotherapist? :D
Bowling wise I want to get the ball turning again. I bowl SLA and have topped my clubs averages for the last 2 seasons up until this one. This season I have got more drift and dip on the ball than ever before but have almost totally stopped actually turning it. Weird as it was the one thing in my bowling I could rely on. I wonder whether it has anything to do with breaking my wrist in December last year? Or maybe because the ball is drifting so much more it just 'looks' like I'm turning it less?
Practically all the wickets I have taken this season are as a result of beating the inside edge (RHB) than beating the outside one....It's confusing me massively... ??? All help gratefully received...!!
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Maybe less turn as the damp pitches have been less spin friendly?
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Maybe less turn as the damp pitches have been less spin friendly?
I must admit I did have a bit of a strop halfway through this truncated season and blamed the pitches! It would be great if you're correct ;)
Panic over! Hahaha!
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has your action changed with your broken wrist, like the angle of release?
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has your action changed with your broken wrist, like the angle of release?
Not that I am aware of Buzz, but then again I am getting more drift and dip than ever before so maybe it has?
I've tried practising with a training ball which is two different colours but, if anything, I would say I was sending the ball down with the seam too 'square' to the wicket. I have always aimed for the ball to leave my hand with the seam pointing to about 2/3 slip but it seems to be at 90 degrees to the stumps...would this mean that the spin I am putting on the ball has too much work to do when taking into account the drift which is, in effect, taking the ball the other way? And does this make any sense?? :D
Any drills I can do to correct this angle of release if you guys think this might be the problem?
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I need to train my stomach/(No Swearing Please) to handle 6 pints of cobra and a ruby the night b4 a game :o ??? :(
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No real drills, but try to almost bowl a top spinner, the ball is more likley to turn, as you said with the angled seam, so impart more topspin on the ball.
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I say this every year but this year really going to try and do it so my goal is to lose 2 stone.... !!!!
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No real drills, but try to almost bowl a top spinner, the ball is more likley to turn, as you said with the angled seam, so impart more topspin on the ball.
So, concentrate more on 'getting over the top' of the ball in delivery? Got to be worth a try...thanks for that...
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Yeh exactly, come over the top, and the ball will get more purchase.
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has your action changed with your broken wrist, like the angle of release?
possibly this - drift is usually influenced by overspin so...