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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: alexhilly1492 on September 18, 2012, 10:08:29 AM
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Cook,Anderson, Bairstow, Bell,Bresnan,Broad, Compton, Finn, Onions,Morgan, Panesar, Patel,Prior,Root, Swann,Trott
My XI from that would be;
Cook, Root/compton (cant decide), Trott, Bell, Bairstow, Prior, Patel, Bresnan, Broad, Swann, Anderson
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So no KP. Whatever various people may think of him, I cannot help but feel slightly sad about that decision.
Of the remainder, the only interesting decision was going to be about the batting spots. Obviously Cook, Bell and Trott were certainties and Bairstow highly likely - the other three were the three most likely contenders once Taylor's name was missed from the central contracts list. Right or wrong, hard to tell, but I guess they're the most sensible bets in the circumstances.
What I am disappointed by is the spin options - Fat Sammy should be nowhere near, and I'm not convinced by Panesar either. Would have preferredto see younger options tried - Kerrigan, Rafiq perhaps?
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i agree with you about the spinners, surely danny briggs would be a good shout, he's had experiance with england all be it a few odi's and a t20 but he knows what the set up is like and offers something a bit different being a leggy
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Bairstow now official sub-keeper now too.
Any announcement on a vice-captain? I though they normally nominated one for overseas tours
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I think they may pick KP for the new Zealand tests next year and test his desire to play for England v IPL.
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i agree with you about the spinners, surely danny briggs would be a good shout, he's had experiance with england all be it a few odi's and a t20 but he knows what the set up is like and offers something a bit different being a leggy
danny briggs is a slow left armer?
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i agree with you about the spinners, surely danny briggs would be a good shout, he's had experiance with england all be it a few odi's and a t20 but he knows what the set up is like and offers something a bit different being a leggy
erm, two points - one, he doesn't really turn the ball enough for the longer form of the game and two, he ain't a leggie!
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I think they may pick KP for the new Zealand tests next year and test his desire to play for England v IPL.
possibly - am surprised they didn't use the change of skipper to draw the proverbial line in the sand.
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personally i think it's a shame that Taylor has been dropped so quickly
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i think you have hit the nail on the head there Jonny
it's a game a brinkmanship and the ECB are holding the cards at the moment.
surprised Taylor did not go but with Root they are looking to the future and Compton selection shows reward for county runs.he's a good player-not sure he will play thou
i think Root will open with bairstow in the team and morgan replacing ravi
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personally i think it's a shame that Taylor has been dropped so quickly
yes and no - I like that England have of late given players a good chance to prove themselves. But was he really demonstrating rediness for the top level? I'd have to say not...
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erm, two points - one, he doesn't really turn the ball enough for the longer form of the game and two, he ain't a leggie!
He turned the ball square in the last T20....more than Swann did. This widely held belief that he doesn't turn the ball is rubbish. He does. Definitely not a leggie either ;)
I'm amazed they have gone with Root over Carberry. Root is no where near ready yet and Carbs coming in would have given Root the time to develop. Carberry may be over 30 but I doubt there is another player in the England squad as fit as he is.
Not taking Taylor is just plain odd....why discard him and bring in Root? That's just weird.
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RE: Briggs that was the only time he has ever been seen to turn the ball though, and it was that odd type of turn that usually comes from a dewey surface rather than a normal day time pitch, so I'd say the jury remains out on his abilities to beat the bat at the top level.
As for Root...there were three decent candidates, but I suspect Carberry's health issues played a part in his exclusion, as (sadly) did the fact that Root can bowl a few overs of passable off spin.
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i feel compton should play. hes proven this season he has what it takes. played 3 or so games less than everyone but scored 300 plus more. averaging 99.60 isnt too shabby either. Im suprised by Roots selection. i know he is rated by the back room staff, in particular thorpe and has been around the performance/lions set up for a while but i dont think 900 runs in a cc season is anything to shout about - an above average season only. i think he could be good but give him a little more time to develop and then take his chance in the next couple of years.
carberry or hildreth should have been included or even taylor (although unsure of his stats this year)
spinner wise i understand why they have taken monty - bowled very well this year but samit patel is lost on me. is he a better bowler than monty? no. does he bat and field better - yes. the only thing i can think of is that they want a spinner who can add something to the game. does samits fielding and batting outway his lack of ability with the ball and make him a better pick than monty? i dont know. a young spinner who can bat would have been better. maybe thats why root in on tour to bowl some spinners aswell. not sure thats the best idea in the world but a young spinning alrounder would have benefitted more than samit would on this tour.
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If that's the case with Root then it's a shame RHB has had the problems he's had this season. He could have been in with a shout. He would have been a better callthan Root anyway! His bowling is a lot better and arguably his batting as well....
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What I am disappointed by is the spin options - Fat Sammy should be nowhere near, and I'm not convinced by Panesar either. Would have preferredto see younger options tried - Kerrigan, Rafiq perhaps?
Even though Monty out bowled swann last time England played in similar turning conditions?
I'd have Taylor in for Morgan, other than that I like the squad, glad Compton has got his chance it's much deserved.
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No offence guys, but Carberry has had an absolutely shocking season, if you wanna pick players in form you cannot seriously consider picking him. Last year I may well have done. Not this year though, not with his lack of runs. Feel sorry for Taylor, thought he'd get a gig. Think Compton the man to open up, can't not play a man averaging 100...
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Not sure that Monty did that quite as conclusively as people made out - he still didn;t manage to answer the questiosn that always dog him - the ability to be something more than economical, and to catch being the key ones.
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Not sure that Monty did that quite as conclusively as people made out - he still didn;t manage to answer the questiosn that always dog him - the ability to be something more than economical, and to catch being the key ones.
I thought he took more wickets than swann last winter too, which is after all how you win test matches. I'd undoubtedly play them both anyway. Admittedly his fielding is far from brilliant but the likes of McGrath, Walsh, Murali and Mustaq were no Jonty Rhodes' either and they didn't do too badly in international cricket
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2 5-fer's in a row wasn't it? I don't think Monty has any questions to answer regarding his bowling....it's the rest of his game that causes him problems!
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Rome burns brightly, huh?
It's amazing that after the continuity of selection over the last few years has fallen away to reveal the 1990s pandemonium of picking people because they've got a few runs or are too young.
I agree with Pedals re: Root and Monty
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Rome burns brightly, huh?
It's amazing that after the continuity of selection over the last few years has fallen away to reveal the 1990s pandemonium of picking people because they've got a few runs or are too young.
I agree with Pedals re: Root and Monty
Well they can't really pick Strauss, and who else other than KP and Rav Bop has been selected recently and is now left out?
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I'd actually say they have stuck to their guns, giving Monty and Fat Sammy another chance each and sticking with the lad who has done well for the Lions in Root.
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Well they can't really pick Strauss, and who else other than KP and Rav Bop has been selected recently and is now left out?
James Taylor, Danny Briggs, Chris Woakes........to name 3! :D
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James Taylor, Danny Briggs, Chris Woakes........to name 3! :D
isn't this just the test squad though?
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Perhaps England have realized that this is a tour that they wont win hence why they are taking a punt on so many new faces, blooding them and getting ready for NZ which they should comfortably win.
India will be well fired up for this series and id be impressed if England even won one of the Test matches.
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India are in transition too, so I think it has the potential to be a better series than many seem to think!
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Perhaps England have realized that this is a tour that they wont win hence why they are taking a punt on so many new faces, blooding them and getting ready for NZ which they should comfortably win.
India will be well fired up for this series and id be impressed if England even won one of the Test matches.
I'm not sure there's many others they could really have picked tbh, Root's is the spot most open to debate, and there aren't any outstanding candidates.
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Just read that briggs only got 5 championship wickets this year so it was a sensible decision to leave him out.
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Reports in Aus this morning that the Sydney 6ers are going to look at signing KP for the Big Bash now he's been left off this tour.
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interesting to see the other parties that have been selected. performance squad has a few new faces in and the hong kong sixes squads a little left field! no place for some of the better performers this year!
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sixes squad is always left field - they tend to reward solid county pros with this one, and need guys who can serviceably bat and bowl. It is what it is, to borrow a Cowellism.
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sixes squad is always left field - they tend to reward solid county pros with this one, and need guys who can serviceably bat and bowl. It is what it is, to borrow a Cowellism.
true by why is the likes of trego missing from either? hes the MVP for the season and has performed pretty well in all aspects but not included. maybe its due to his t20 travelling, i dont know but you would imagine someone who has bowled and batted well ( esp smashing it out the park and quickly) would feature somewhere.
i think there are a few who deserve a go but not there
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fair point RE Trego, though I wonder whether its better for him to be off making money on the T20 circuit (and he has been before).
Plenty of players have missed out who deserved to go - three Yorkshire lads in Lyth, Gale and Ashraf were unlucky in my opinion!