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Equipment => Your Kit => Topic started by: GetAGrip™ on October 18, 2012, 08:22:32 AM
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Get A Grip is here to raise the awareness of Racism through Sport across the UK and beyond. Many people are subject to Racial Abuse and our belief is they shouldnt be. We are joining forces with the Race Equality First Charity and donating £1 from all sales to them so they can continue doing the great job of supporting those who are subject to the abuse. What we ask is you buy our stickers and cricket bat grips and start to spread the word... GET A GRIP on Racism! Its not big and it isnt clever to Racially abuse anyone. Stand up and make a difference!
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Get some pics up mate (might need to be a forum sponsor first however), I would be keen for a grip :)
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Check here: http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=7712.0
And please do not create the same topic in multiple places.
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£6 for a grip and a £1 goes to charity?...............hmmmmm
It's not all about raising awareness is it? There is a large amount of self interest too!
A laudable cause but this looks to me a lot like someone using this cause to make themselves some money....I need a lot more convincing... ;)
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I agree lol
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It's a lot like being asked to buy a rose in a pub really.......... :D
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AF foundation did pretty much the same a couple of years ago and probably still running. i think it was more than £1 went to the foundation thought. A grip can be made for about £1.
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£6 for a grip and a £1 goes to charity?...............hmmmmm
It's not all about raising awareness is it? There is a large amount of self interest too!
A laudable cause but this looks to me a lot like someone using this cause to make themselves some money....I need a lot more convincing... ;)
I've just raised this to admin. Also noted:-
website a bit sparse on press articles / corporate sponsors
don't charities required some form of registration number?
First entry in google was 8th October 2012 and getagrip charity doesn't bring a hit up, indicates little or no history to me
Twitter following can be easily done by following and asking for re-tweets
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I note that one of the corporate 'partners' is Ayrtek.....I wonder if he knows!!! :D
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Hi Get A Grip. I notice on your website that you aren't a registered charity, rather that you have a company number and are registered as a Private Limited Company at Companies House. Due to this, even if it is for a good cause, you are required to meet the same set of requirements as any other poster on the forum. That is that you must fulfill 50 posts before you are able to sell on the Forum.
It also brings in to question where £5 of the £6 that your grips cost is actually going.
I would suggest that unless the likes of Arytek or Aedos (who happen to be featured on the getagripuk.org.uk site) are able to coroborate your background, I would suggest that forum members are wary of parting with their cash.
I'd also note that while using a .org.uk extension on a website is not a crime, these domains are supposed to be used by charities and it does suggest a level of insouciance.
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£5000 revenue and you have too register but I'd like to know the trustees and governing document please:-
http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/Start_up_a_charity/top_tips_starting_a_charity.aspx
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This has to be the single most preposterous statement I have ever seen in marketing bumf -
"What better way to encourage the youth of today to respect others than give them a bat grip as part of their annual membership"
I would comment but I do have to do some work today!
:D
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In response to your comments we are not a charity, we are donating £1 from all sales to a charity so they are able to continue supporting the victims of racial abuse.
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Like the concept, but £6 for a grip is pricey when grips cost as little as 40p to be made.
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Thanks for the clarification. Just a couple more things - has the charity you are donating to had input into the design and approved it. The present design similar but why isn't their logo on the grip at all. Have you a written agreement with Race Equality First for the proceeds from the sale of this specific grip to go to them?
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If that's the case I think you should possibly modify the way you're marketing yourself then! ;)
A charity is one thing, a business selling bat grips and stickers and using 'charity' as it's main marketing point is something completely different and is exactly the same as buying a rose in a pub....! You don't even say on your website what kind of grips they are? What pattern etc? Makes it obvious your playing the charity card to increase your own earnings....
Poor show! Very poor show! Boooooo! :D :D
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If we were able to get the grips at 40p each then the prices would be lower. Unfortunately this isn't the case. Yes the charity have seen the product and love it, we have written confirmation from them that £1 from every sale will go to directly to them.
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If we were able to get the grips at 40p each then the prices would be lower. Unfortunately this isn't the case. Yes the charity have seen the product and love it, we have written confirmation from them that £1 from every sale will go to directly to them.
so, erm, where does the other £5 go?
I mean, if I ant to buy a top of the range super-dooper Salix design with ergonomic bits and everything, I pay less than a five through a retailer. Basic herringbone designs are a coupleof quid, and Sports Direct do actually very good Slazenger Octoplus designs at a quid...
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Yes the charity have seen the product and love it, we have written confirmation from them that £1 from every sale will go to directly to them.
good.
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Oh, one more question - do you make any other products aside from these "charity" grips?
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Yes we have cricket bat stickers which go on the reverse of the bat.
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Grips are chevron and good quality from what I've seen
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shame cos think probs most people agree that done properly theres a real angle here, unfortunately this doesnt seem to have been done well...
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Our costs are 50% through supplier to customise the chevron design. Then the charity and business costings. This is done to promote and encourage support for anti racism.
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Yes we have cricket bat stickers which go on the reverse of the bat.
do you have another website then?
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Yes we have cricket bat stickers which go on the reverse of the bat.
That does not really answer my question - does your company do anything that is not related to the promotion of your "charitable" interests?
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Our costs are 50% through supplier to customise the chevron design. Then the charity and business costings. This is done to promote and encourage support for anti racism.
if that is the case could you lay out for us sceptics exactly what your costs are per grip, and how much your profit per item is?
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Yes the grips cost us £3 + postage then £1 to charity and then usual business costs tax etc. profit per grip is around 40p.
No the products we sell are sold with the intention of supporting the racial issues in the world today.
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if that is the case could you lay out for us sceptics exactly what your costs are per grip, and how much your profit per item is?
To be fair it's always worth outlining these things. Some won't get that someone takes a personal cut but that has to offset them being there.
Ie if the projections is to raise £5000 and a further £8000 goes to one person to keep them in that position is that better than not raising £5k? The venture will always be under scrutiny when its not a registered charity... But don't be surprised that charity also pays well. Having known the ex head of Oxfam and he retired of his work there... not to justify GetaGrip but does it raise more than it would with them being around?
Interesting reading
http://society.guardian.co.uk/salarysurvey/table/0,12406,1042677,00.html
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Yes the grips cost us £3 + postage then £1 to charity and then usual business costs tax etc. profit per grip is around 40p.
No the products we sell are sold with the intention of supporting the racial issues in the world today.
To take on the Duncan Bannatyne persona once more - one, you are being done over on the manufacturing costs if that is what you are paying, and two, if the charity is your motivation, why not make the grips heaper (and therefore more likely to be sold etc) by doing it on a not-for-profit basis, which would also get rid of most of your business costs.
Its not that I don't like the idea of charity grips - I would not, personally, choose this particular issue though - but I do abhor the use of "charity" to mask "business" and to make yourself a profit!
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^Agreed! ;)
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Ie if the projections is to raise £5000 and a further £8000 goes to one person to keep them in that position is that better than not raising £5k? The venture will always be under scrutiny when its not a registered charity... But don't be surprised that charity also pays well. Having known the ex head of Oxfam and he retired of his work there... not to justify GetaGrip but does it raise more than it would with them being around?
This is what I think is wrong with so much of the charitable sector today - its not a millon miles fromthere to the curse of chugging. Now I reckon I do my bit for charity - both in terms of paying a portion of my income, doing a lot of voluntary work and in encouraging proper, genuine charity fundraising, so please don't cast me as the naysayer on this, but I find things like this tobe pretty insulting!
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What I really want to see is someone starting a great little company that makes/sells great grips and benefits a charity. What I feel uncomfortable about is a company that uses charity to benefit 'the business'
Nothing illegal in this (as far as I know) but not the sort of charity I feel comfortable 'donating' too!
Do it the other way and I'd be interested though!
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my dad raised £50mln for a charity.
he paid to do it, he certainly wasn't paid for his work... that is what I associate charity work with.
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maybe CBF with it's contacts should be doing this kind of work and donating the proceeds to any number of very good cricket specific charities. Can't think of anything better I'd like to give my time and effort towards.
Look good on my cv as well ;)
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Considering the Catholic church is one of he most profitable businesses in the world.. Get off the high horse boys
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Considering the Cathloic church is one of he most profitable businesses in the world.. Get off the high horse boys
And how many of us think that is right? I don't.... ;)
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Considering the Catholic church is one of he most profitable businesses in the world.. Get off the high horse boys
Don't start me on the Catholic Church. I am very far from religious and believe the Catholic Church to be extremely rotten...
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Get A Grip is here to raise the awareness of Racism through Sport across the UK and beyond. Many people are subject to Racial Abuse and our belief is they shouldnt be. We are joining forces with the Race Equality First Charity and donating £1 from all sales to them so they can continue doing the great job of supporting those who are subject to the abuse. What we ask is you buy our stickers and cricket bat grips and start to spread the word... GET A GRIP on Racism! Its not big and it isnt clever to Racially abuse anyone. Stand up and make a difference!
Good to see you on here!
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Taking this back to the original topic, unless Getagrip becomes a sponsor of Custom Bats, as it is not a charity, in order to sell anything through CBF, we will need to see you provide 50 posts, as per the usual selling rules.
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Don't start me on the Catholic Church. I am very far from religious and believe the Catholic Church to be extremely rotten...
though if we're going to start on that particular debate, we'd have to cover pretty much every organised religion, wouldn't we...
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my dad raised £50mln for a charity.
he paid to do it, he certainly wasn't paid for his work... that is what I associate charity work with.
I know what you mean Buzz and I do agree. But having helped out last year with Great Ormond St., Cancer Research, the Canadian Cancer society it just doesn't work like that for the day to day. It cost me a lot more than i had first anticipated... I do not for a second regret it but I did learn some valuable lessons from some people far more intelligent than me.
But i still believe more is done through the people that are entirely selfish and people like your Dad Buzz... Its that drive that really makes all the difference as apposed to those essentially in paid work and who like everyone else can fall in and out of love with it. people with that natural desire to see good come of something or passionately strive for change will always be the front runners in achieving change. But it needs the cogs and wheels too.
There has been talk of Custom bat stuff, why not use that to dedicate to charities annually that can be voted on by the formites.
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Taking this back to the original topic, unless Getagrip becomes a sponsor of Custom Bats, as it is not a charity, in order to sell anything through CBF, we will need to see you provide 50 posts, as per the usual selling rules.
Ill email you for info on this
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I agree with M77, there are very few people that can afford to work entirely for charity! The grip, logo and company name look very stylish to me and with the incidents that are still being seen around the world today, promoting anti-racism is still a very key issue IMO
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Out of interested - why the choice of a charity which only works in Cardiff?
Are you from there?
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That is the first of two charities we will be supporting. We are currently finalising details with an Anti Racism Charity who operate in England and Scotland. This way many people are benefiting from the sale of our bat grips/stickers.
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http://www.cricketworld.com/cricketers-gripped-by-lord-s-taverners-fundraiser/24009.htm
Lord Taverners used get a grip in a charity campaign in 2010.
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And I used a bat grip last year!