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Title: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: Cover_Drive on November 05, 2012, 04:05:02 AM
Got an email from GCCC couple of days ago about 'Paceman Bowling Machine'.

Here is a video of it;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0zA-z86vhE

So I began my research and it did somewhat tempt me as it is $350 AUD only, was just checking and on KD Sports postage is $10 to Canada (this is certainly not possible).

Certainly a better tool to buy rather than a bat? Practice on driveway/garage, only concern is who will fetch those balls.

Thoughts?

Cheers
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: Tom on November 05, 2012, 07:52:03 AM
If you're in the US try this:

http://www.amazon.com/Franklin-Baseball-Pitching-Machine-Optional/dp/B00702CPYU
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: RossViper on November 08, 2012, 08:51:56 PM
too slow?
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: BakarooBonzai on November 09, 2012, 06:00:08 AM
That's what I wondered too, 60mph seems a little slow.  A similar baseball unit information says that if you move it forward the reaction time will be lesser hence it will seem faster.  Not sure in reality if that's the case.  I wonder if anyone have actually used one of these.
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: tim2000s on November 09, 2012, 08:05:21 AM
We use a bola off 17 yards at the barn and at 60 mph you feel the difference.
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: Dan W on November 09, 2012, 08:15:54 AM
Can these (Bola or Paceman) be operated/used on your own?
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: The_Bird on November 09, 2012, 08:28:24 AM
Can these (Bola or Paceman) be operated/used on your own?

Bola's have a feeder and remote I think, no idea about the paceman
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: uknsaunders on November 09, 2012, 08:50:11 AM
doesn't it come with a 12 ball feeder, as seen on the video?
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: Simmy on November 09, 2012, 08:50:18 AM
if you watch the video u will see the paceman can be used on its own its got that feeder that is spiral shaped and it relases the balls. 60mph is rubish tho unless its of 16 yards
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: uknsaunders on November 09, 2012, 09:36:31 AM
approx 19 yards for 70mph, which is easily as quick as most club bowlers.
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: Tom on November 09, 2012, 10:09:18 AM
The paceman balls are very very light too.

I bought as v similar machine back in the US for about £100 a few years back.
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: Vulcan Cricket on November 10, 2012, 06:20:12 PM
we have these for sale
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: Uzi Sports on November 10, 2012, 06:31:26 PM
Got an email from GCCC couple of days ago about 'Paceman Bowling Machine'.

Here is a video of it;

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0zA-z86vhE[/url]

So I began my research and it did somewhat tempt me as it is $350 AUD only, was just checking and on KD Sports postage is $10 to Canada (this is certainly not possible).

Certainly a better tool to buy rather than a bat? Practice on driveway/garage, only concern is who will fetch those balls.

Thoughts?

Cheers

we will be stocking these when they become available in UK
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: Vulcan Cricket on November 10, 2012, 06:35:42 PM
we have them in stock and are in uk
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on November 10, 2012, 07:38:27 PM
How much are they lads as lads at our club run a coaching company and we're asking if I knew anywhere to get them?
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: Ryan on November 10, 2012, 07:46:43 PM
Looks quite good tbh.  How much are they in through UK Dean?
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: Cover_Drive on November 10, 2012, 08:01:13 PM
Paceman has speed up to 100mph, if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: Vulcan Cricket on November 10, 2012, 08:03:39 PM
think there 399.99
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: BakarooBonzai on November 10, 2012, 08:13:23 PM
Paceman has speed up to 100mph, if I'm not mistaken.

Offers quality, accurate, reliable bowling simulation for the backyard & Beyond

Features

Variable bowling speeds up to 100kph
Fully adjustable for full pitch & short pitch deliveries
Includes automatic 12 ball feeder
East to assemble, put away & store
Able to produce inswing & outswing deliveries
Uses exclusively Paceman light balls for safety & performance

These are the stats from the website.  100kph so about 60mph.  350aud seems overpriced for a 60mph.  When a unit with identical stats can be bought in the states from Amazon for ~150-200.
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: Cover_Drive on November 10, 2012, 08:16:29 PM
Offers quality, accurate, reliable bowling simulation for the backyard & Beyond

Features

Variable bowling speeds up to 100kph
Fully adjustable for full pitch & short pitch deliveries
Includes automatic 12 ball feeder
East to assemble, put away & store
Able to produce inswing & outswing deliveries
Uses exclusively Paceman light balls for safety & performance

These are the stats from the website.  100kph so about 60mph.  350aud seems overpriced for a 60mph.  When a unit with identical stats can be bought in the states from Amazon for ~150-200.

Ah I see, pardon me as I got bemused with units.

Do you know which one from Amazon would work in same way but with a feeder as well?
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: BakarooBonzai on November 10, 2012, 08:17:33 PM
Ah I see, pardon me as I got bemused with units.

Do you know which one from Amazon would work in same way but with a feeder as well?


http://www.amazon.com/Slider-Lite-Baseball-Pitching-Machine--Pitches/dp/B004UA9NMM/ref=sr_1_9?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1352578544&sr=1-9&keywords=heater+lite

here you go mate.  I'm thinking of getting one once spring arrives.
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: procricket on November 10, 2012, 09:04:45 PM
we have these for sale

Are you the seller from Aylesbury on ebay mate
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: Cover_Drive on November 10, 2012, 09:14:05 PM
[url]http://www.amazon.com/Slider-Lite-Baseball-Pitching-Machine--Pitches/dp/B004UA9NMM/ref=sr_1_9?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1352578544&sr=1-9&keywords=heater+lite[/url]

here you go mate.  I'm thinking of getting one once spring arrives.


Cheers for this, it indeed looks exactly like the one I posted in OP, a lot cheaper and better for me as I'm in Canada.

Would it be possible to use simple balls instead of baseball balls?

Many thanks again
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: Vulcan Cricket on November 10, 2012, 09:15:50 PM
no its not me
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: uknsaunders on November 10, 2012, 09:27:31 PM
Are you the seller from Aylesbury on ebay mate

It's High Wycombe Cricket Club.
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: BakarooBonzai on November 11, 2012, 02:40:31 AM
Cheers for this, it indeed looks exactly like the one I posted in OP, a lot cheaper and better for me as I'm in Canada.

Would it be possible to use simple balls instead of baseball balls?

Many thanks again

I think they can use the special dimpled balls that are pretty generic to all bowling machines.  At least I've seen one video with someone using that.  I've heard there are two kinds of them, one is super light and the other is slightly lower in weight than a baseball.  I never seen one in person so can't attest to the feel of it when playing with a bat.  If the unit is designed for lighter balls then I doubt you can use a heavier cricket ball.  The additional weight will be a burden for the small motor and the ejection speed will also be compromised.  This is just my speculation of course.  I figure this will be good for off season practice, and for that purpose the dimple balls would be adequate.  On a side note, they also sell a netting system for about 150-200.  So a complete net session for about 400, not too bad. 
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: Cover_Drive on November 11, 2012, 07:42:55 AM
I think they can use the special dimpled balls that are pretty generic to all bowling machines.  At least I've seen one video with someone using that.  I've heard there are two kinds of them, one is super light and the other is slightly lower in weight than a baseball.  I never seen one in person so can't attest to the feel of it when playing with a bat.  If the unit is designed for lighter balls then I doubt you can use a heavier cricket ball.  The additional weight will be a burden for the small motor and the ejection speed will also be compromised.  This is just my speculation of course.  I figure this will be good for off season practice, and for that purpose the dimple balls would be adequate.  On a side note, they also sell a netting system for about 150-200.  So a complete net session for about 400, not too bad.

Once again many thanks for your prompt and insightful response, I appreciate it :)

I live in Canada so this US Amazon one is more fruitful option that Australia $350, plus its a lot cheaper.

My backyard is pretty big and easily enough room for full 22 yards pitch, have garage and a long driveway and I was planning on placing it on driveway. Woulc it be possible for you to share net link as well? Because that interest me and I think it will be useful.

The only issue I can think of with baseball balls is of bounce as the, light dimple balls should be fine in my opinion, they would be safer in my opinion.

Once again many thanks for all your help, I appreciate it
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: bigboy on November 11, 2012, 08:45:02 AM
The paceman is designed for children, you will be very disapointed if you are expecting a proper bowling machine.
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: thecord on February 18, 2013, 12:10:03 PM
Apologies for digging up an old thread but did anyone take the plunge with the Paceman unit in the end? Or has anyone used/seen one in action?

One of the junior coaches at our club has asked about the prospect of getting one and I was hoping someone might be able to give some first hand feedback?

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: Vitas Cricket on February 18, 2013, 12:38:45 PM
Apologies for digging up an old thread but did anyone take the plunge with the Paceman unit in the end? Or has anyone used/seen one in action?

One of the junior coaches at our club has asked about the prospect of getting one and I was hoping someone might be able to give some first hand feedback?

Thanks in advance

We will have one in stock soon so will let you know my thoughts.

I believe sellers have to all sell at an agreed price, so buying locally to you and collecting it will save on postage, as I doubt we will be able to offer free shipping on this item.
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: Uzi Sports on February 18, 2013, 12:56:07 PM
Apologies for digging up an old thread but did anyone take the plunge with the Paceman unit in the end? Or has anyone used/seen one in action?

One of the junior coaches at our club has asked about the prospect of getting one and I was hoping someone might be able to give some first hand feedback?

Thanks in advance
we have one set up in our shop
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: thecord on February 18, 2013, 01:31:54 PM
Thanks for the feedback guys.
Asad, might be able to pop in tomorrow afternoon on my way back from Chipping Norton dependent on time. Fingers crossed.

Would still be interested to hear if anyone has any actual experience of using one.
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: billyb on February 18, 2013, 02:06:00 PM
Surely the Stinger is a better machine?
A new model has just come out, the 5000 I believe, and it is well worth a look.  I think KBS cricket or similar sell it.
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: thecord on February 18, 2013, 03:37:04 PM
Possibly Billy but again has anyone actually used one?? Not sure about the sort of balls that are used in that one
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: lastmanstand on February 18, 2013, 03:55:16 PM

not sure if its already been suggested or done but would be great if people could do some video reviews of their various bowling machines.

think there would be a few out there interested in cheaper alternatives to bola...
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: ACM0608 on February 18, 2013, 08:29:49 PM
I thought the stinger only used tennis type balls unless the newer model is different where as the paceman uses bola type balls so I guess the stinger would be a better bet for juniors.
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: thecord on February 18, 2013, 08:34:42 PM
Stinger looks like soft balls and harder ones for the paceman. Not sure if you can actually see a stinger in the flesh before ordering though
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on February 18, 2013, 08:35:39 PM
Don't be cheap.. Get a Bola! :)
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: thecord on February 18, 2013, 08:36:47 PM
Not all Martin Moneybags like you Adie!
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on February 18, 2013, 08:43:48 PM
Not all Martin Moneybags like you Adie!

fair one. I still reckon it's worth it though, I've used mine for 1000's of balls since I got it so I'd say over the course of a few years it'll be well worth the investment. They are not that expensive if you go for the basic model (which to be fair is all you need) and don't bother with the feeder etc.. TBH, the bit I'd say I slightly find over the top in price is the balls!

Anyone around Chelt is welcome to give me a buzz if they want to use it. I got it for myself to learn and improve but happy to  share.
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: rudder162 on February 18, 2013, 09:44:50 PM
How does it go?? Sorry for going a little off subject curious to find out whether they are worth the $ my club is looking to upgrade their 1970s Bola :)
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on February 18, 2013, 09:54:49 PM
How does it go?? Sorry for going a little off subject curious to find out whether they are worth the $ my club is looking to upgrade their 1970s Bola :)


If you mean the Bola then it goes as fast or as slow as you want. Not sure I get what you mean by 'How does it go' ?

If people are really interested in improving (and speeding up that process) I personally think it's one of the most important bits of training kit. I know some may disagree etc but just from my limited experience in 2 winters it's took me from someone that just saw the ball and hit it (heaven know's what my feet etc were doing) to someone that actually starts to play 'properly' and can occupy the crease and play all around the ground as I've been able to work on the 'weak' shots and so turn them into decent shots.

I genuinely believe although it's not the be all and end all if a club really puts the time and effort into working with their players individually on something like this there would be a hell of a lot better batsmen around.

To prove my theory i've taken a guy that's 21 and been written off by the club as 'nothing more than a hitter who can play the odd good innings' and over this winter working with him he's turned himself in a good batsmen. Playing the percentages, picking the balls to play the right shots too whilst still maintaining that timing and power he had to hit big. Hopefully if he chooses to stay with the club he can go in and basically show up some of the 'reputation' players (which tbh he'll easily do). It'll be itneresting for me to see what runs he gets over the season but more importantly does the club see it or are they too stuck with the reputational players (I suspect they are, clubs don't seem to like trying new players and moving out the dead wood)
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: thecord on February 18, 2013, 11:52:23 PM
fair one. I still reckon it's worth it though, I've used mine for 1000's of balls since I got it so I'd say over the course of a few years it'll be well worth the investment. They are not that expensive if you go for the basic model (which to be fair is all you need) and don't bother with the feeder etc.. TBH, the bit I'd say I slightly find over the top in price is the balls!

Anyone around Chelt is welcome to give me a buzz if they want to use it. I got it for myself to learn and improve but happy to  share.

I wanted to put a  ;) on that but couldn't manage it from the mobile site so hope my comment was taken in jest.
I'm sold on the Bola to be honest mate, it's just a case of getting it through a committee. Considering how difficult a request for even £50 worth of equipment is the £2k for a Bola is going to be a herculean effort! Fingers crossed though, using one on hire at our winter nets is beginning to win people over.
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on February 19, 2013, 08:17:47 AM
Yeah I took it as banter buddy. I think it sounds like you've done it the right way, hire/borrow one to show how much difference it makes and then people will defo want it. Even without specific training you face so many more quality balls it helps :)
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: tim2000s on February 19, 2013, 08:20:13 AM
Lord's are selling the paceman from their shop.
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: i12breakfree on February 19, 2013, 12:47:02 PM
If you're in the US try this:

[url]http://www.amazon.com/Franklin-Baseball-Pitching-Machine-Optional/dp/B00702CPYU[/url] ([url]http://www.amazon.com/Franklin-Baseball-Pitching-Machine-Optional/dp/B00702CPYU[/url])


Tom - This link doesn't work , but do you know of any good baseball pitching machine that can be used for cricket. The cricket ones are too expensive
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: Vulcan Cricket on February 19, 2013, 07:37:28 PM
we selling it for 349.99
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: Batting-monster on February 21, 2013, 07:15:49 PM
Hi guys, I have recently purchased a stinger5000 cricket bowling machine and our team love it, I think there’s no doubt the bola is the best performing machine but the price is very high and the paceman looks a good machine but we have now seen all 3 machines in action and we are very happy with our machine as it fires many types of balls and Kevin from kb cricket gave us a money back weeks trial with the machine as well- Mark-Yorkshire

#Firstpostonaforumpleasebekind :-[
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: thecord on February 21, 2013, 08:03:46 PM
Hi guys, I have recently purchased a stinger5000 cricket bowling machine and our team love it, I think there’s no doubt the bola is the best performing machine but the price is very high and the paceman looks a good machine but we have now seen all 3 machines in action and we are very happy with our machine as it fires many types of balls and Kevin from kb cricket gave us a money back weeks trial with the machine as well- Mark-Yorkshire

#Firstpostonaforumpleasebekind :-[

Thanks for that, useful feedback.
What sort of balls have you used on the Stinger then?
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: Tom on February 21, 2013, 08:25:58 PM
Tom - This link doesn't work , but do you know of any good baseball pitching machine that can be used for cricket. The cricket ones are too expensive

This is very very similar to the Paceman:

http://www.amazon.com/Franklin-Baseball-Pitching-Machine-Optional/dp/B009YUK5IE/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top (http://www.amazon.com/Franklin-Baseball-Pitching-Machine-Optional/dp/B009YUK5IE/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top)
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: samdavids1983 on March 19, 2013, 11:35:42 AM
after some goggling i found out that the paceman bowling machine has a product safety recall in certain countries ,does anyone know if it is being recalled in the uk??? thanks Sam

http://www.facebook.com/consumernz/posts/150704761752610 (http://www.facebook.com/consumernz/posts/150704761752610)

http://www.consumeraffairs.govt.nz/pdf-library/product-recall-notices/00022945_-_The_Paceman_Recall_Notice_-as_published.pdf (http://www.consumeraffairs.govt.nz/pdf-library/product-recall-notices/00022945_-_The_Paceman_Recall_Notice_-as_published.pdf)[/color][/b]
Title: Re: Paceman Bowling Machine
Post by: samdavids1983 on March 19, 2013, 11:45:43 AM
And if it is not being recalled where is the cheapest place to get one ? is there any 2nd hands ones about ?