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Equipment => Bats => Willow and Willow Trees.... => Topic started by: sloggerroz on November 18, 2012, 09:16:33 PM
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Just a quick question really, tryed to do a search but couldnt find anything.
Is the width of grains due to how fast the tree has grown? Ie a bat with 20 grains the tree has grown quickly and a bat with 6 grains the tree has grown slowly.
Is that right?
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as per my knowledge yes as each cleft is roughly the same width and the grains can only differ due to the speed of the trees growth
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Just a quick question really, tryed to do a search but couldnt find anything.
Is the width of grains due to how fast the tree has grown? Ie a bat with 20 grains the tree has grown quickly and a bat with 6 grains the tree has grown slowly.
Is that right?
Other way round.
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This is school boy stuff. A grain represents a year of life in a tree. 6 grains, six years old. 20 grains, 20 years old.
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Just a quick question really, tryed to do a search but couldnt find anything.
Is the width of grains due to how fast the tree has grown? Ie a bat with 20 grains the tree has grown quickly and a bat with 6 grains the tree has grown slowly.
Is that right?
A bat with 20 grains has taken longer to grow than a bat with 6 grains. I think each grain signifies a certain length of time the tree has grown.
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Cheers fellas, yer obvious, feel a bit daft now.
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It may be obvious to some mate but it wasn't to you, that's what the forum is for so don't be afraid to ask questions
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Also, a bat with more grains comes from higher up the tree. They are not necessarily older. I didn't actually know this until I saw Andrew Kember on Monday...
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Also, a bat with more grains comes from higher up the tree. They are not necessarily older. I didn't actually know this until I saw Andrew Kember on Monday...
I don't think many people did! Although if you think about it, it does kind of make sense, as trees are narrower higher up. 8)
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Does this mean that better bats come from the top of the tree in most cases?
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Does this mean that better bats come from the top of the tree in most cases?
Better looking bats, but not necessarily better bats...
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Ok, thanks Paul.
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i am 100 prcent sure this has been asked before but ... can a bat have 1 grain and more importantly has anyone seen a bat with one solitary grain ?
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On grains, what are peoples preferences regarding them? Do you like a tight grain or a wider grain? I personally have always gone with a narrower grain but for no reason other than asthestics.
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On grains, what are peoples preferences regarding them? Do you like a tight grain or a wider grain? I personally have always gone with a narrower grain but for no reason other than asthestics.
Personally I've always like around 10-12 even grains, I think it looks quite nice.
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On grains, what are peoples preferences regarding them? Do you like a tight grain or a wider grain? I personally have always gone with a narrower grain but for no reason other than asthestics.
If both bats played equally well I'd go for one with a narrower grain (assuming it isn't covered in blemishes) But if one bat has a wider grain or isn't as aesthetically pleasing but plays very well I'd choose it hands down.
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I know this is an oldish topic but thought it fit appropriately in here. If each ring/grain on a tree shows one yar of growth , then when a bat only has 5-6 grains does that mean its been cut down after only 5-6 years?
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I know this is an oldish topic but thought it fit appropriately in here. If each ring/grain on a tree shows one yar of growth , then when a bat only has 5-6 grains does that mean its been cut down after only 5-6 years?
Not necessarily as the width of the blade won't run for the outside of the tree to the very middle.
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Width of grain isn't to do with age, it's speed of growth.
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This site is WELL worth a visit.
http://www.cricketbatwillow.com/ (http://www.cricketbatwillow.com/)
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Width of grain isn't to do with age, it's speed of growth.
Indeed, but I presume most tree's the cut down are of a similarish size.
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this is interesting - as a friend of mine has some cricket bat willow trees in his garden and they are near a stream and his cess pool. The trees grow a some speed as a result - when the cut a few of them down they were still pretty young - 8-10 years old but very wide and as a result pretty wide grains. The bats that came out of them only had about 6 grains (and aren't particularly well pressed :( ) still they have planted some more to have another go!!
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I don't think six grains is a sign of a bad bat though.
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Indeed, but I presume most tree's the cut down are of a similarish size.
Size yes, age no.
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From what I've heard most are cut down between sort of 13-19 years for cricket bats . Something around a 60 inch circumference I believe.
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Size yes, age no.
If they are all cut at the same size then speed of growth and age are obviously related!
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If they are all cut at the same size then speed of growth and age are obviously related!
A young tree that has grown fast will be the same size as an old tree that has grown slow, but the old tree will have more grains, because its older, even though both trees will have the same diameter trunk and be felled at the same time.