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Title: Sandpaper
Post by: Blazer on November 25, 2012, 01:27:27 PM
Can wet and dry sandpaper be used for sanding down bats ?.
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_162774_langId_-1_categoryId_255242 (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_162774_langId_-1_categoryId_255242)
I am struggling to get sandpaper over 320 grit for woodwork.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Chad on November 25, 2012, 01:32:13 PM
Can wet and dry sandpaper be used for sanding down bats ?.
[url]http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_162774_langId_-1_categoryId_255242[/url] ([url]http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_162774_langId_-1_categoryId_255242[/url])
I am struggling to get sandpaper over 320 grit for woodwork.


It says it can be used wet or dry, and I assume you want to use it dry. ;) It should be fine, but I think you only really need about 600 grit. Apparently DIY stores don't really do grits above 320, so you may have to go to a more specialised store/site! :)
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Blazer on November 25, 2012, 01:37:11 PM
Cheers pal, was a bit confused as I thought they can only be used on metal.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Beachcricket on November 25, 2012, 01:40:58 PM
You can get 600 from B&Q, it's wet dry silicon carbide based paper.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Chad on November 25, 2012, 01:48:45 PM
Cheers pal, was a bit confused as I thought they can only be used on metal.

Ah right haha. :P I think it's just what the sandy granules on the paper are made out of! I use metal oxide sandpaper to sand my bats, and find that 320 is normally enough! I used to use 180, and that seemed alright, but might start using 600! 8)
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Blazer on November 25, 2012, 01:56:50 PM
You can get 600 from B&Q, it's wet dry silicon carbide based paper.

Thanks pal. Would you be able to post the link please ?. I can't find any information about grit. All i could find was this
http://www.diy.com/nav/decor/decorating-supplies/abrasives/sand_paper/-specificproducttype-fine_grade_sandpaper/Oakey-Between-Coats-Extra-Fine-Sandpaper-8-Sheets-280-x-230mm-9373469?skuId=9674174 (http://www.diy.com/nav/decor/decorating-supplies/abrasives/sand_paper/-specificproducttype-fine_grade_sandpaper/Oakey-Between-Coats-Extra-Fine-Sandpaper-8-Sheets-280-x-230mm-9373469?skuId=9674174)
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Blazer on November 25, 2012, 02:00:07 PM
Ah right haha. :P I think it's just what the sandy granules on the paper are made out of! I use metal oxide sandpaper to sand my bats, and find that 320 is normally enough! I used to use 180, and that seemed alright, but might start using 600! 8)
I didn't even know the existence of sandpaper grit above 320 lol .
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: JB2011 on November 25, 2012, 02:17:32 PM

this any good for you?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WET-AND-DRY-SANDPAPER-PACK-OF-10-SHEETS-400-600-800-1000-1200-1500-2000-GRIT-/221085679772?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=520102348755&hash=item3379bbc09c&_uhb=1
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Blazer on November 25, 2012, 02:29:42 PM
this any good for you?

[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WET-AND-DRY-SANDPAPER-PACK-OF-10-SHEETS-400-600-800-1000-1200-1500-2000-GRIT-/221085679772?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=520102348755&hash=item3379bbc09c&_uhb=1[/url]

Thanks pal , exactly what I needed.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: ajmw89 on November 25, 2012, 07:20:17 PM
Screwfix also do 320+ grit wet and dry paper.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: smokem on January 04, 2013, 05:07:26 PM
Sorry to dig up an old topic but I actually prefer to use wet and dry. Reason being that you can wet it and de-clog the sandpaper. Of course you will have to wait until its dry to use it again but at least you don't end up with a bin full of sandpaper just to do a refurb. Just my personal preference...
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Red Ink Cricket on January 04, 2013, 06:59:37 PM
You can just get a rubber block which you rub over the sandpaper to clear the clogging out. Makes the sandpaper last alot longer
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Vitas Cricket on January 04, 2013, 07:14:50 PM
I didn't even know the existence of sandpaper grit above 320 lol .

I have some 1000 grit somewhere, not really necessary above about 500 in my opinion, especially considering most refurbs i do are followed up with a scuff sheet, if the back of the bat is a bit ropey its nothing a wax and a quick buff wont smooth over.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Blazer on January 04, 2013, 07:31:46 PM
I have some 1000 grit somewhere, not really necessary above about 500 in my opinion, especially considering most refurbs i do are followed up with a scuff sheet, if the back of the bat is a bit ropey its nothing a wax and a quick buff wont smooth over.
I managed to obtain sandpaper up to grit 2500 , but found out using them to that extent did not make much of a difference. I agree with you about sticking with 500 grit with waxing and buffing.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: ajmw89 on January 04, 2013, 07:33:02 PM
I usually finish off with some 1200 grit wet and dry
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: M77 on January 04, 2013, 07:37:20 PM
Blimey, I have only once ever reach for a 600 on a particularly dry refurb. The rest of the time 400 to finish then gets hands on with polishing. But each to their own... it depends on your environment (eg damp shed). If you are doing it all by hand, like redink has stated using a block... also cork block can be made to suit profiles and ensure smoother finishes on more extreme shapes.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: hell4leather cricket on January 04, 2013, 07:49:56 PM
400 is the most I go up to ,don't really see the need to go any higher
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: ajmw89 on January 04, 2013, 08:01:33 PM
I just find the 1200 grit stuff gives a nice silky smooth finish
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: M77 on January 04, 2013, 08:07:24 PM
I just find the 1200 grit stuff gives a nice silky smooth finish

Don't you find it pulls up fibres at that range? Plus after 400 you can use a rag with the same effect .
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Ryan on January 04, 2013, 08:10:47 PM
I go to 320 and that's it. Get a lovely finish with the sandpaper I use.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: hell4leather cricket on January 04, 2013, 08:14:59 PM
You need to use a sandpaper that doesn't stratch ,then the be no need to for higher grades try 3m tricut
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Ryan on January 04, 2013, 08:17:24 PM
I use this which is very good. Gives a nice silky finish.


http://www.agwoodcare.co.uk/index.php?app=ecom&ns=prodshow&ref=mirka_carat_rolls&sid=1jzi86fu774kmh6578kev54q70t1e0k8
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: ajmw89 on January 04, 2013, 09:08:51 PM
Don't you find it pulls up fibres at that range? Plus after 400 you can use a rag with the same effect .
Nope. Although anything above 240 grit is done by hand, and fairly gently. Be interesting to see how my new sander that I got for christmas goes. Should make doing shoulders and concaving a bit easier.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: farnham_quins_2 on January 16, 2013, 10:23:39 AM
I'm planning on sanding my bat where I've taken stickers off, and no idea about what kind of sandpaper to use??

I'll be doing it by hand as its not too much of the bat that needs sanding.

Reading this thread I can't seem to find an answer...
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Kieron_BT on January 16, 2013, 10:25:58 AM
I did mine a couple of weeks ago

I got a pack of wet and dry from Wickes and used the roughest (about 180) to start and then the finest (about 400) to finish it off, worked fine

Don't wet it though, you just need it because its so fine
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: farnham_quins_2 on January 16, 2013, 11:22:55 AM
That sounds like a plan. I'll give it a go.
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: cricketbadger on January 16, 2013, 07:46:09 PM
can i get a little advice please
How many different grades would people use for sanding a bat, removing the outlines of stickers for example
what grades would you use in order, and where can these be bought from
I remember someone mentioned its better to go to small hardware shops
Title: Re: Sandpaper
Post by: Fezballoh on January 29, 2013, 07:39:51 AM
I'm with Matt and Ryan on this one. 320/400 is as fine as you need. A friend of mine is a veneerer by trade and he told me I was wasting my time with anything too fine. This is because you start using grit that that is finer than the grain of the timber. The best paper I've found is the blue stuff that Ryan has posted a link to. You can buy a multi pack of it in Wickes if you're only doing one bat. I think it's sold as 'Between coats' sand paper. You get 120, 180 and 320 from memory. It's good as it hardly clogs up and will probably wear out before anyways!