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Title: Out or Not Out?
Post by: Number4 on December 16, 2012, 11:41:18 AM
The opening batsman tries to smash the ball to the boundary only to sky it straight up, he then calls a run and takes 3 or 4 steps down the wicket and then stops directly under the ball. The bowler is keeping his eye on the ball and running down the wicket to catch it. Collides with the batsman and the ball hits the batsman and rolls to square leg and the batsman then continues on with his run. We appeal for obstruction and the umpire ( one of their players) gives not out.

Opinions????
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: Manormanic on December 16, 2012, 11:43:07 AM
Out.  Its a deliberate act and against the laws.

http://www.lords.org/laws-and-spirit/laws-of-cricket/laws/law-37-obstructing-the-field,63,AR.html
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: roco on December 16, 2012, 11:44:54 AM
Out
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: Village Trundler on December 16, 2012, 11:56:10 AM
The opening batsman tries to smash the ball to the boundary only to sky it straight up, he then calls a run and takes 3 or 4 steps down the wicket and then stops directly under the ball. The bowler is keeping his eye on the ball and running down the wicket to catch it. Collides with the batsman and the ball hits the batsman and rolls to square leg and the batsman then continues on with his run. We appeal for obstruction and the umpire ( one of their players) gives not out.

Opinions????

Out without even a thought....... (No Swearing Please) glad I wasn't there to see that! r I would have had an aggro meltdown!
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: Chad on December 16, 2012, 11:56:23 AM
Out. I think our under-18s had a strange case where a batsman ran and was panting really loudly towards our bowler when he skied it, and the bowler dropped it. They didn't appeal, and the guy went on to make 50, and then were told if they had appealed, he would have been given out as that apparently falls under the rules of obstruction of the field. The bowler was also a captain in one of the Scotland youth teams, so doubt he would have missed many of those opportunities! :-[
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: Manormanic on December 16, 2012, 11:57:04 AM
Meltdown indeed - blatant cheating!
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: Number4 on December 16, 2012, 11:59:08 AM
Out without even a thought....... (No Swearing Please) glad I wasn't there to see that! r I would have had an aggro meltdown!

Considering he was on 0 when it happened and went on to score 41
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: Village Trundler on December 16, 2012, 12:13:31 PM
Considering he was on 0 when it happened and went on to score 41

Did you let him have it?

I see you led with a sturdy unbeaten knock to make sure you sent the cheating (No Swearing Please) home with a loss!
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: Number4 on December 16, 2012, 12:17:00 PM
Did you let him have it?

I see you led with a sturdy unbeaten knock to make sure you sent the cheating (No Swearing Please) home with a loss!

Gopal and Mick G certainly let him know it wasn't in the spirit of the game haha
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: thecord on December 16, 2012, 12:37:16 PM
Should be out but having been on the receiving end of that a few years back you have my sympathies!
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: charlie15 on December 16, 2012, 12:39:45 PM
Out for sure
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: Buzz on December 16, 2012, 01:14:14 PM
out.
in fact it could be a double out if he had been run out too... cough.
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: roco on December 16, 2012, 01:23:49 PM
Thinking again if he stood in way of ball with me I would have just pushed him out if way caught ball and laughed but that's me
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: 97notout on December 16, 2012, 01:29:12 PM
Even better Roco you'd have fell on him for good measure having taken the catch, then trod on his foot in your size 10 spikes as you helped him up and pointed him in the general direction of the shed :)
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: roco on December 16, 2012, 01:36:01 PM
Size 12 mate

I may have skipped and fell afterwards for good measure but it would have been purely by accident
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: ajmw89 on December 16, 2012, 04:34:44 PM
Out.  I'd have shoulder charged the guy in an attempt to "catch" the ball though
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: tim2000s on December 17, 2012, 04:45:40 PM
Out as per rules cited earlier.
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: nicky.waddell on January 27, 2013, 04:55:19 AM
What a cheat. Blokes like that shouldn't be playing the game.
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: m.lalli on January 27, 2013, 07:16:23 AM
A few years back I was fielding at short mid wicket batsman skies one I got myself under the ball and hear someone call "leave it!" Thinking its our keeper thats come round I step back and watch the ball land at my feet.
The only people that heard the call were the keeper, the bower and myself everyone else thought I'd bottled the catch >:(
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: ad2606 on January 27, 2013, 02:08:13 PM
nothing worse than abit of blatant cheating like, one of the only bad things about cricket- when the oppo are doing their own umpiring and are intent on being idiots!
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on January 27, 2013, 02:16:34 PM
I do hate cheating. It ruins the game completely as those on the wrong side just think 'whats the point' and those who do hte cheating don't give a crap about it as they win, and the winning side team mates either ignore the cheating fact or also feel like it's a wasted day.

If your out your out, lucky we all get another go in the next game for gods sake. It's not life or death!
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: 03jaworf on January 27, 2013, 02:30:37 PM
nothing worse than abit of blatant cheating like, one of the only bad things about cricket- when the oppo are doing their own umpiring and are intent on being idiots!
Agreed you see it quite often, everyone always knows a local team who's notorious for cheating lol!
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: ad2606 on January 27, 2013, 03:48:12 PM
Agreed you see it quite often, everyone always knows a local team who's notorious for cheating lol!
Usually tend to be the same teams with the awful 'banter' and over the top sledging!
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: BIG.G on January 27, 2013, 04:11:40 PM
Got to be out. On a similar note, i played in a game where our number 6 skied one, whilst running the non striker shouted loudly 'again, he's dropped it' before the fielder attemted the catch, he dropped it, opposition captain appealed on the grounds of instructing the field. Umpire agreed, gave out the batsmen who had it the ball. We felt this was wrong because we didnt think what the non striker had shouted was wrong and also not the striker who shouted anything. Should he have been given out chaps?

Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on January 27, 2013, 04:46:40 PM
Got to be out. On a similar note, i played in a game where our number 6 skied one, whilst running the non striker shouted loudly 'again, he's dropped it' before the fielder attemted the catch, he dropped it, opposition captain appealed on the grounds of instructing the field. Umpire agreed, gave out the batsmen who had it the ball. We felt this was wrong because we didnt think what the non striker had shouted was wrong and also not the striker who shouted anything. Should he have been given out chaps?

Not really in the spirit of cricket shouting anything. There was no need IMO, purely said to apply pressure/put off
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: 03jaworf on January 28, 2013, 09:03:29 PM
Got to be out. On a similar note, i played in a game where our number 6 skied one, whilst running the non striker shouted loudly 'again, he's dropped it' before the fielder attemted the catch, he dropped it, opposition captain appealed on the grounds of instructing the field. Umpire agreed, gave out the batsmen who had it the ball. We felt this was wrong because we didnt think what the non striker had shouted was wrong and also not the striker who shouted anything. Should he have been given out chaps?
I would have thought the non-striker should have been given out as it was him who actually obstructed the fielder (albeit verbally)
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: Village Trundler on January 29, 2013, 07:26:25 PM
I would have thought the non-striker should have been given out as it was him who actually obstructed the fielder (albeit verbally)

Should have been non-striker out as above.
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: tim2000s on January 29, 2013, 11:37:41 PM
Not out. You don't get given out for sledging the batsman as a fielder, so if you are sledging the fielders as a batsman, what's different?
Title: Re: Out or Not Out?
Post by: Tail Ender on January 30, 2013, 03:04:56 AM
Not out. You don't get given out for sledging the batsman as a fielder, so if you are sledging the fielders as a batsman, what's different?
It's still out.

Law 37.1 - Either batsman is out Obstructing the field if he wilfully obstructs or distracts the fielding side by word or action.