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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: Manormanic on December 18, 2012, 09:06:43 AM
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There was a good article in the Times a few weeks ago about how Test cricket was now a constant review of where we were in relation to the next Ashes series. I wonder, now that England have ended India's unbeaten home record and the Aussies have finally won a test (sorry guys, couldn't resist!) how do you all think that the series next summer is shaping up?
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With our bowling attack being led by matty wade you should be shaking in your boots :)
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Anyone know how to go about getting some tickets sorted for Oz next year? Parents are going so said I'd look into it.
Apparently Ozzy residents can get them a month before UK residents so having someone help would be useful over there. Anyone know if this is true?
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With our bowling attack being led by matty wade you should be shaking in your boots :)
Don't forget a 43 y.o. who goes by the name of S. K. Warne... :D
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I still think England are a fair bit ahead of Australia in English conditions. With Anderson seemingly improving all the time I just think him and Finn are going to be too much for the Aussie batsmen in England.
In Australia I think it will be a lot closer but I still fancy England to nick it. Australia's lack of a decent spinner and inability to keep any of their seam bowlers fit for longer than a test match are the keys here though. If they manage to address those points it will be tight.
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Good comments Pedals. I think the seam attacks are pretty evenly matched - Australia are struggling to keep theirs fit whilst England are desperately looking for an in form third seamer - but England have better top order batting to call upon and two top class spinners to the convicts none. On which point, why not "do an India" and prepare raging bunsens?
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Good comments Pedals. I think the seam attacks are pretty evenly matched - Australia are struggling to keep theirs fit whilst England are desperately looking for an in form third seamer - but England have better top order batting to call upon and two top class spinners to the convicts none. On which point, why not "do an India" and prepare raging bunsens?
I think the English and Welsh climate in the Summer (e.g. lots of rain and relatively chilly) would make "raging bunsens" very difficult to achieve.... Even for a first class cricket ground! Heatlamps and a greenhouse over the square anyone?
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I'm not sure we could actually prepare Bunsens in this country based on the previous few summers! Would be a good idea though, the last thing the Aussies would expect!
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Worked pretty well, albeit by accident, at the Oval in 2009!
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Worked pretty well, albeit by accident, at the Oval in 2009!
Good old Bill Gordon. The 2009 oval pitch was no accident, I assure you.
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The poms doctoring pitches? Noooooooo
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The Aussies need to keep Pattinson and Cummins fit to have any chance
If they go in with siddle and Hilf leading their attack again they will be doing an awful lot of fielding, particularly with no decent spinner to keep it tight
And the batting relies so much on Clarke and Hussey, England have a much better team at this stage
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And the batting relies so much on Clarke and Hussey, England have a much better team at this stage
I wouldn't go that far - both sides have their issues to resolve. I just think that the questions over Australia's top four will be the biggest factor in the series: will Watson learn to go on from nice 30s? will Cowan cope consistently against class bowling on anything other than a shirt front? Can Warner handle the moving ball? Will Hughes wimp out at a challenge and get Quiney to cover for him again or be Steven Finn's bunny?
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I wouldn't go that far - both sides have their issues to resolve. I just think that the questions over Australia's top four will be the biggest factor in the series: will Watson learn to go on from nice 30s? will Cowan cope consistently against class bowling on anything other than a shirt front? Can Warner handle the moving ball? Will Hughes wimp out at a challenge and get Quiney to cover for him again or be Steven Finn's bunny?
I think they will persist with Hughes, I don't think Quiney will get another shot. We need to settle on a top order and let them play themselves into form
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I think the performance in India in the New Year will be an interesting bellweather...
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I think they will persist with Hughes, I don't think Quiney will get another shot. We need to settle on a top order and let them play themselves into form
It was shocking though that they picked him after admitting that he was not good enough to play against South Africa. Quiney...is he destined to be one of those people mentioned in dispatches in fifteen years time as being unlucky as to who and how he got his chance?
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It was shocking though that they picked him after admitting that he was not good enough to play against South Africa. Quiney...is he destined to be one of those people mentioned in dispatches in fifteen years time as being unlucky as to who and how he got his chance?
I think in 15 years time it will be Quiney who?
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I think in 15 years time it will be Quiney who?
Do you not reckon he'd have scored well against this ri Lankan attack though?
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Do you not reckon he'd have scored well against this ri Lankan attack though?
Didn't say he wouldn't .... He will just be one of the forgotten ones
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Didn't say he wouldn't .... He will just be one of the forgotten ones
Ah, the Mark Lathwell of Australian cricket...
...of course, they could bring him in for the next test if Pup is missing...
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Ah, the Mark Lathwell of Australian cricket...
...of course, they could bring him in for the next test if Pup is missing...
Or Usman
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The English would definitely have to start favourites at Home as i think the Aussies will again struggle against the swinging ball. I'm not convinced that the top order is well equipped for a swinging ball ie. warner, hughes and LBW candidate watson. In saying this, if warner gets away, he could create some carnage on the small english grounds.
I actually think, the new young crop of bowlers will equip themselves well because they all can swing the ball instead of being a one dimensional "banging it in bowler"
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Or Usman
if they want to prove that Quiney was a true sacrificial lamb, yes...
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I actually think, the new young crop of bowlers will equip themselves well because they all can swing the ball instead of being a one dimensional "banging it in bowler"
until they break down in teh second innings and take six weeks out!
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I think the performance in India in the New Year will be an interesting bellweather...
This series is going to be very interesting as I don't see Australia having the attack that England had to take 20 wickets in a test in India. I don't think they'll have an issue getting he runs, but can Lyons plus one other do the job that Swann and Panesar did for us, and can one of Siddle, Hilfenhuas, Starc, Cummins, Johnson et al a) stay fit long enough and b) get the ball to reverse ala Jimmy?
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Yet again the Aussies will be looking to enjoy our sloppy seconds!
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As much as we've come along since the debacle of 2010/11, I think we're still a little short of being at England's level.
Interesting among the talk of Australia's bowling and Phil Hughes that it hasn't been noted how much Hughes and Mitch Starc have blossomed after their recent season in county cricket. Hughes rebuilt his technique and has scored runs for fun, and looks a lot more assured. I saw him make 74 for Adelaide against Perth in the Big Bash and he was superb. If he keeps his confidence he can be as good as he wants to be. And Starc ripped it up for Yorkshire. He should do well in the England series.
As for Quiney, much as I like him, he was given cheap caps and shouldn't have been selected. His domestic one-day form leading up was awesome, but he'd only scored 78 runs in four or five Shield innings. So he was picked on his limited overs form, and the 86 he scored against SA in the tour match. He should've played one-day cricket for Australia already (he's a monster in the short game and has been for a few years), but he should never have played a single test.