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Title: Jesse Ryder
Post by: The_Bird on January 27, 2013, 07:15:37 PM
Should Jesse Ryder be able to decide when he returns? Surely it's down to NZ cricket to decide. I thought the Pieterson saga was farcical at times but this is a joke. Is he being advised by Gazza or something?


'Jesse Ryder's management says the Indian Premier League is a much better fit than a "rushed" return to international cricket against England next month.

Via his manager, Aaron Klee, Ryder confirmed his unavailability for New Zealand's home series yesterday and appears almost certain to miss the return tour to England in May-June.

Instead, Ryder will complete the domestic season for Wellington then play the IPL, which runs from April 3-May 26, assuming he gets selected in this weekend's player auction.

It means Ryder's earliest likely return to the Black Caps is the tour of Bangladesh in October.

Klee said Ryder was still not ready to commit to international cricket, despite his blockbusting recent Twenty20 form for the Firebirds. He wanted to stay true to his vow last June to sit out international cricket for a full year to address personal issues and rediscover a love for cricket.

"People are going to speculate on why he's available for the IPL and not New Zealand. It's a domestic competition and it's a short-term contract so it gives us the ability to reassess it," Klee said.


"If you go back into international cricket you can't reassess tour after tour. It fits a bit better into his goals and plans."

Ryder last played for New Zealand on February 29, against South Africa in Napier, after which he was banned for one match for drinking while injured. He played for Pune Warriors in last year's IPL, with support from Klee and psychologist Karen Nimmo, then took time out of cricket and swore off alcohol.

"The IPL was wonderful for him last year. It got him back on his feet, it was a massive challenge and he nailed it. There's a lot of self-belief that came from getting through that," Klee said.

Ryder wanted to make his decision public before tomorrow's meeting with New Zealand coach Mike Hesson and manager Mike Sandle, which will also be attended by Klee and players' association boss Heath Mills.

Klee informed Sandle last week that Ryder was unavailable for the England series. The meeting in Wellington will discuss how Ryder fits into the team's plans in the coming months, and explore the prospect of him joining the team for training sessions during the home series.

"There is pressure and speculation coming from supporters and fans and media. There's been no pressure from NZC but there's an expectation that because he's been playing so well then he should be playing," Klee said.

"There's nothing to be gained by rushing him back.

"There's just downside risks. But if we're a bit more patient and wait till everything is in place and Jesse's ready then there's more upside risks."

Wellington coach Jamie Siddons said Ryder was the best person to judge his readiness for the Black Caps.

"Time will tell what the requirements of Jesse are from NZC and what he's willing to give. There's certainly compromise made from our end here to keep Jesse happy and wanting to play good cricket for us, which he is.

"Whether that can happen at the next level . . . I'll be interested to see how that [meeting] goes."

The Black Caps arrived home last night from South Africa in a buoyant mood after their 2-1 one-day series triumph.

Having won the first two matches, New Zealand posted 260-9 in Potchefstroom and lost by one wicket when Ryan McLaren hit James Franklin's final delivery for six.

"It would have been great to win the series 3-0. But achieving what we've achieved in this series and even how we've played today as well, we've showed the characteristics that we want to be known for," captain Brendon McCullum said.

England arrive in the country this week, with their Twenty20 tour opener against a New Zealand XI including Ross Taylor in Whangarei next Monday.'

© Fairfax NZ News
Title: Re: Jesse Ryder
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on January 27, 2013, 09:17:36 PM
NZ should just kick him out. No one should be able to hold a country to ransom. NZ made his name so maybe it's time to start giving these players far stricter contracts at the start that basically says 'your nothing if you have no international honours so you either sign it or spend you life in county cricket'.

It's getting more like football every day and that's a bad thing.
Title: Re: Jesse Ryder
Post by: ammo on January 28, 2013, 07:05:27 AM
Have you seen the NZ squad, they need him whenever he does turn up
Title: Re: Jesse Ryder
Post by: Manormanic on January 28, 2013, 09:55:54 AM
and he may - stress may - be genuinely trying to do what is best for his recovery...
Title: Re: Jesse Ryder
Post by: Kieron_BT on January 28, 2013, 10:11:27 AM
Someone people make me laugh on here

Yes we all love the game but unfortunatly life comes first

Not everyone lives a perfect life and unfortunatly, although most think it, just because you are succesful at cricket or alike it doesn't make you happy.

He clearly has other problems in his life that come before cricket and its his choice on how he woould like to get back to playing for NZ.

I totally understand his point of view, in his current (obviously fragile) position he is in, in his life he doesn't want the commitment yet of international cricket, instead he wants a quick otournament that if he doesn't like it he can stop at any point.
Title: Re: Jesse Ryder
Post by: Johnny on January 28, 2013, 10:20:39 AM
It's up to him where and when he wants to play, and down to NZ Cricket to decide whether or not they want to accomodate him.

I suspect given the lack of outstanding talent available to them, NZ are happy to let him play as and when he thinks he is ready.

England wouldn't stand for this, but then we have a much bigger talent pool
Title: Re: Jesse Ryder
Post by: lukemannionzimbabwe on January 30, 2013, 05:40:29 PM
Jesse is being a little over the top to me.

He is a good cricket and with him, Brendon McCullum, and ross taylor i a team surely NZ cricket will compete ?
Title: Re: Jesse Ryder
Post by: alba caerulea on January 30, 2013, 05:44:53 PM


England wouldn't stand for this, but then we have a much bigger talent pool

Like they didn't let KP pick and choose his games?