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General Cricket => World Cricket => Topic started by: charlie15 on January 31, 2013, 05:46:32 PM
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So it would appear that the BCCI have turned down any chance of DRS being used in all internationals again, whilst the ICC (with the exception of the ECB) has yet again failed to show any collective backbone whatsoever.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/current/story/602944.html#cmnt (http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/current/story/602944.html#cmnt)
I'm I the only one who feels that Srinivasan's implication that DRS can be easily manipulated implies that he feels third umpires might cheat? If so we could say that about the local umpire standing in the 4th ODI recently.
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Grow a bloody backbone. Walk away from India, leave them to it. If everyone isolated them from all international cricket and tournaments they would soon give in. India are turning cricket into a joke, betting scams blah blah blah.. and now this.
I can't stand watching India play anyway but if this does come to pass then tbh I'd probably just not watch any series with them playing. Not that that will affect anything of course but it's about time the men at the top man'ed up and told them to shove it.
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I'm I the only one who feels that Srinivasan's implication that DRS can be easily manipulated implies that he feels third umpires might cheat? If so we could say that about the local umpire standing in the 4th ODI recently.
I think the (Indian) cheat who gave Raina not out in the first ODI kind of proved that...
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Yes just need everyone to walk away from them
yes they bring in big revenue, but in time this would stop if everyone boycotted them, they would come crawling back and play by everyone else rules
they cant continue to be allowed to dictate the state of the game for the rest of the world
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India are heading into a collision with the rest of world cricket over the implementaion of DRS.Now they appear to think they can boycott any series when the host nation wants to use it.
India has the opportunity to make test cricket the pinnacle backed by financial muscle never seen before in the game
But they are choosing to not take that option and let the ultimate form of the game die in their Country.
It needs the other Asian Countries to stop blindly supposting India and break ranks.
This has the potential to split cricket into Asian and non-Asian matches and that would be a disaster for the game....
The governing body needs to grow some Kahunas and call their bluff
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People won't stand up to them as they rely on Indian cash end of
As long as they have the money they have the lower but fair play the ecb standing up to them to there face
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What would world cricket lose if they kicked India into touch? If you literally just cancelled every international, stopped centrally contracted players going to the IPL and kicked them out of all competitions etc and just acting like they weren't there what would boards miss out on??
I can see why them having more people than anyone is a huge market but if everyone cut them out I cant' see how they would lose that much. Especially if you extended the test series between the likes of SA, ENG and AUS and teams like NZ, SL, NZ, PK played more against each other etc.
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Personally I'd like to see the ECB boycott playing India, we know that we wouldn't lose test series against other nations so there's no problem with that. We would also be able to turn around to India when they accuse us of being scared of playing them and point to the last 2 test series.
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I believe they should change the way it is being implemented. Ian Chappell has been saying for a long time to let the umpires use the review system instead of the captains.
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I must say BCCI is acting like a bully. They = bunch of Bull.
Excuse my language.
Jag.
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I believe they should change the way it is being implemented. Ian Chappell has been saying for a long time to let the umpires use the review system instead of the captains.
It's a good idea in theory, but I'm not too sure how it would work, you could end up with the umpire going upstairs every other ball because he's not sure and that would just be a farce. Personally I'm in the "if it ain't broke don't fix it camp."
I must say BCCI is acting like a bully. They = bunch of Bull.
Excuse my language.
Jag.
Jag completely agree with you, the power they have has gone to their heads.
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its a very weird situation, could you imagine it happening in football for instance if they brought in goal line technology and france decided that they didnt want it in any of their world cup games? FIFA would simply kick them out until they decided to accept the new rules. I think the stance mentioned above with every side simply no longer playing against indian teams, no side employing indian overseas pros and no tv networks buying the ipl coverage would bring this situation to a close within months
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It would never happen (level playing field etc) but I like Bumble's idea - let India not bother and their opponents have it.
I wonder what Indian players think (if the BCCI let them think...) now; the rumours initially were that the marquee players were against it.
It's the most ridiculous situation, as pointed out in the final ODI against England. They will spend time debating whether a fielder has pulled the ball back for a 3 or a 4, yet they won't look at lbw decisions on DRS.
The BCCI would do well to remember that they are simply participants passing through a great game. They don't own it - they have a duty to the game. They are creating an unequal playing field and it's ruining the game and its reputation.
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BCCI or any other Board, who are they to decide whether DRS or not. Whatever new rules or amendments ICC is making all Boards must implement the same without fail, otherwise they must not be allowed to participate in any international games.Time for ICC to take strict action otherwise every country will make their own rules suitable to them.
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I simply switch off whenever the Indian circus is on the TV.
I can't wait for the next test in the UK. DRS or no DRS, I'll be there, beer in hand, giving the Indians more abuse than I've ever given any Aussie touring side.
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I think it's all pretty straightforward. DRS is used in all test cricket whether India like it or not. If they refuse to play under it then they'll have nobody to play against. For all the IPL riches their players reputations rely on beating international teams. Without international competition the BCCI will start losing sponsor and tv money, something they won't like. I'd give it 12 months of this stance before India caves in. If it needs a further push then other boards refusing players IPL participation ought to kill off the IPL pretty quickly.
At the moment they don't believe anybody will stand up to them, but like all bullies if they are outnumbered they'll fall back into line. I read Giles Clark has suggested discussing it again next week. I wouldn't be surprised if that's to get all the other countries onboard and to issue India an ultimatum.
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In my view, ICC has to make the call. Simply say it is mandatory for all test playing nations. Have a vote on it and pass the reaolution.
If Pak, SL, Bagnladesh etc use it in series with other nations, then surely they will vote for it.
No used ridiculing BCCI. They like any business / corporate are using their muscle. Let the governing body make it a rule. What is ICC there for?
If a option is given then obviously some will accept and some will reject. As the money comes out of the respective cricket boards revenues- ICC don't pay for it.
Boycotting or sideline BCCI or Indian cricket is not a solution. There is only one aolution- make it mandatory for all test playing nations.
I am not a follower of football. But i think the goal line technology was made mandatory by FIFA, so it is to be follows in all FIFA events. Is goal line tech used in UEFA or premiership games? (I am not aware as I don't follow football)
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It's tricky in football as there are far more sub sections/boards around the world than in cricket. FIFA has something like 200 member associations who each have their own boards and sub boards. FIFA are shockingly corrupt tho so god knows what goes on behind the scenes at their HQ..!!
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For a team that is heavily reliant on batting, The BCCI must be headed by some petulant board members to not allow DRS . I don't think the Indian players are happy with the BCCI decision . If ICC keeps on bowing to the Indian Boards demands , The credibility of such an organisation will be lost .
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For a team that is heavily reliant on batting, The BCCI must be headed by some petulant board members to not allow DRS . I don't think the Indian players are happy with the BCCI decision . If ICC keeps on bowing to the Indian Boards demands , The credibility of such an organisation will be lost .
The credibility of cricket was lost the day the ICC moved to Dubai and started ignoring the MCC
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Seriously, the ICC and all the other full member boards are allowing the BCCI to much control. It is making a mockery of international cricket. What is the point of a governing body if one country is allowed to dictate terms?
I agree with what most have already mentioned, boycott all Indian series for a while and they should eventually cave.
I am already dreading the many terrible and questionable umpiring decisions that will inevitably occur in Australia's upcoming tour of India.
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Ok so something that has been bugging be on this thread....Just curious how many of you would have been in favor of everyone boycotting England when your umpires gave decisions that were perceived as biased?
I know BCCI is a spoiled brat/bully but all the others are equally spineless...if the proposal was put forth today where only BCCI objected what the heck were others doing? licking eachothers asses? if they approved this then they wont be boycotting India instead India would be shooting itself in the foot by declining to play against everyone...
anyways just bothering me how everyone seems to be talking about boycotting India, when it should be BCCI...I being an Indian and fan of cricket have done nothing wrong to be deprived of watching my nation play...rant over...
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Ok so something that has been bugging be on this thread....Just curious how many of you would have been in favor of everyone boycotting England when your umpires gave decisions that were perceived as biased?
I know BCCI is a spoiled brat/bully but all the others are equally spineless...if the proposal was put forth today where only BCCI objected what the heck were others doing? licking eachothers asses? if they approved this then they wont be boycotting India instead India would be shooting itself in the foot by declining to play against everyone...
anyways just bothering me how everyone seems to be talking about boycotting India, when it should be BCCI...I being an Indian and fan of cricket have done nothing wrong to be deprived of watching my nation play...rant over...
Tushar, I wasn't aiming this at umpires giving bad decisions, it was far more the fact hat the BCCI refuse to buy into DRS by now saying that it is easily manipulated which to a point refers that the home 3rd umpires could be cheating, I used the examples of local umpires in the recent ODI series to support what I was saying, if it came across as an accusation apologies. We all know that umpires will give bad decisions from time to time ;).
I also believe that if every other test playing country agrees with something India needs to fall into line and not act like a spoilt brat. I don't believe that boycotting India is the right thing to do and I agree with you when you say that the ICC needs to grow some. I personally believe that it would be more likely that India would boycott other countries when they decide to ignore India and push on regardless.
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Tell India to do one, if they don't want DRS (I'm not actually that much of a fan of it!) then they can enjoy playing Duleep and Ranji trophy only, not internationals, watch them come crawling back when they realise people aren't scared to stand up to them!
Will never happen of course, ICC have so much money coming in from India they will be interested in there own wages.
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Hey Charlie, wasn't targetting your post mate, what I don't understand is why is it only BCCI or ICC at fault (which they totally are) but what about ECB, CA, WICB, PCB, BCB etc...if you read the article it states that this was discussed at a previous meeting where all boards (except for BCCI assuming) agreed that DRS should be implemented as long as host nation wants it..then when it was put forward/discussed in the next meeting BCCI objected by saying if it is implement they will not tour that country and no other board said a word. They are all money hungry beurocrats, very much like politicians who continue to beat their own drum in public to get votes/support but when it really matters they are hide their tails between their legs and get whipped...
Every other board is as much at fault as BCCI for letting them bully around. Its 9 vs 1, money is one thing and principles is another. If they had a the balls and guts they could have all voted for it and if BCCI did not want to tour then so be it, very quickly there would have been outrage from public and players at not being able to play other nations...
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Every other board is as much at fault as BCCI for letting them bully around. Its 9 vs 1, money is one thing and principles is another. If they had a the balls and guts they could have all voted for it and if BCCI did not want to tour then so be it, very quickly there would have been outrage from public and players at not being able to play other nations...
Well put. What I wanted to say but much better put :). The other boards need to stand up for what they want, rather then just acquiescing to the demands of one board. Time for other nations to grow a backbone!
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For a team that is heavily reliant on batting, The BCCI must be headed by some petulant board members to not allow DRS . I don't think the Indian players are happy with the BCCI decision.
I feel the Indian team are against it as much as the board because they don't know how to use it.
When they first used DRS it was like Indian players didn't want to accept the were out so referred decisions correct stonewall decisions (as if they would flip a coin to be allowed to continue or not).
When their #6 batsman got a shocking decision, their reviews were used up long ago