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Title: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: wilkie113 on February 08, 2013, 05:22:15 PM
Today I decided to get out on the bike and do some miles as it seemed nice. I haven't done anything cardio wise for a while now. Now I know I'm unfit/over weight and I've been threatening to do something about it for a while, but realising just how bad it's got is very scary!

Has anyone else done something like this? Realised just how unfit you are and it's a real scare?
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: Manormanic on February 08, 2013, 05:31:39 PM
what'll scare you more as you get older is how quickly you lose fitness when you don't keep up the training - I go to the gym 4-5 times a week now, but even a couple of weeks off and it feels like I'm back at square one!
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: wilkie113 on February 08, 2013, 05:33:34 PM
Definitely going to keep at it now. After thinking to myself 'it can't be that bad' for the past few months. The trusty road bikes going to be getting a battering from now on. If you don't use it you lose it my teacher at school used to say lol.
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: Chad on February 08, 2013, 05:33:42 PM
I have had this at the start of every cricket season for the past 3 years haha! In the first match 2 seasons ago, I bowled 15 overs, and could barely bat as my legs was cramping up. Was a little disappointing, but taking 5 for 45 off 15, with a triple wicket maiden, I couldn't really complain about what I managed to do with the ball. ;)

You should do Insanity and draw up a blog like myself! I have to update it, but have been a little busy recently! :-[
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: Simmy on February 08, 2013, 05:36:39 PM
lad u are super fit compared to me! ive started running and it takes me 20 mins to do a mile.. i can only jog for about 200 meters then have to walk
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: wilkie113 on February 08, 2013, 05:39:51 PM
Mate it'd probably take me the same. I did around 13/14 miles on the road bike, was sick once lol. I can barely walk now! Feel like I've done a marathon or something.
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: fros23 on February 08, 2013, 05:51:41 PM
lad u are super fit compared to me! ive started running and it takes me 20 mins to do a mile.. i can only jog for about 200 meters then have to walk
We don't need to run mate, just deal in boundaries  :)
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: Jagminder on February 08, 2013, 06:02:21 PM
what'll scare you more as you get older is how quickly you lose fitness when you don't keep up the training - I go to the gym 4-5 times a week now, but even a couple of weeks off and it feels like I'm back at square one!

you will be fine - gradually take a week to build it back.
Its just a feeling - keep a log of what you do - you can compare that over time to see - if you are training properly you won't loose it that fast.

Jag.

Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: fasteddie on February 08, 2013, 06:03:08 PM
I use a few supplements to give me a bit of a helping hand.

Alpha Men Super vitamins
ZMA - for recovery
Glucosamine
Omega 3

I'm also 41 and have had 13 major ops with a decent number of screws holding my upright.

These type of supplements will help you train and recover. I also use skins, wouldn't train or play without them.

A great way to get cricket fit is get a decent rucksack, stick 10 kilo's in it and walk fairly fast on a slight incline on the treadmill. You get the core stability from the light weight, slight resistance on the walking from the incline, lots of reps, and it's not going to kill you.

I can say that as I've just got back from the gym. Knackered and seeking a cold beer......
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: FattusCattus on February 08, 2013, 08:20:11 PM
Wilkers - are you doing the Choice net?  I'll show you 'realising how unfit you really are'!!!
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: gdb19 on February 08, 2013, 08:22:51 PM
I've never been that fit but I'm especially bad now. Not too overweight but just very unfit, like Simmy I can't run to save my life. I used to be ok when I was younger as I played loads of cricket and worked 6 days a week as a postman during summer breaks from uni (15 miles walking a day helps keep you fit). It's no coincidence that when I was fitter my bowling was a lot better, it's pretty dire now.

I've got a dog so I walk him every day and I've started waking to work most days, it's about 3.5 miles and takes 55 mins so must be better than nothing. I'd like to start running but I really don't like it. Ideally I'd like to get a rowing machine as its the only thing I enjoyed when I used to go to the gym so I'm keeping an eye out for a good deal.
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: Cover_Drive on February 08, 2013, 08:33:22 PM
What is the longest you guys can bat against bowling machine? Just trying to gauge my unfitness level..

A month ago I faced 40 overs and then bowled 10 overs.

Last week I faced 40 overs and then bowled 5 overs before I ended my session.
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: procricket on February 08, 2013, 08:35:47 PM
I have done 120 overs in a session a few times back in Northern Ireland
I just do not have the facilities here

Bowling machine is not fitness though I don't think I think if you wanted you could face it all day no. Stop for fun anybody could I am not overly fit but i'am  mentally robust
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: Blazer on February 08, 2013, 08:40:05 PM
Same story here  :( . I was all talk towards the end of last season about how I am going to lose weight . As the current season approaches  nothing has changed. I smoke about 15 cigarettes a day which means I can't run a few metres without gasping for breath . I pay for the gym which I use about 6 - 12 times a month with no notable result . I am not massively over weight but terribly unfit and run like a duck  :D . Wish I didn't succumb to the peer pressure of smoking when I was a teenager . I am very much annoyed at myself without doing anything about it  >:( .
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: procricket on February 08, 2013, 08:42:32 PM
Squats and lunges that the way forward get your core right first the rest will flow
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on February 08, 2013, 08:51:48 PM
What is the longest you guys can bat against bowling machine? Just trying to gauge my unfitness level..

A month ago I faced 40 overs and then bowled 10 overs.

Last week I faced 40 overs and then bowled 5 overs before I ended my session.

I agree with Procricket. Bowling machine is a poor way to judge fitness as it's pretty easy to face 2 or 3 hours on it. Yes the first few times you'll tire but not loads. If you want to use the machine though and have a feeder you could get someone to bowl 'overs' at your and then after a shot or two per over run singles or twos etc to replicate a game. Do that for 30 mins and then you'll know how fit you are. Especially if you time a one (sprinted) single and ensure you're as quick each time.

I'm actually pretty fit considering the 5 stone I've put on since 2010. I don't get tired in a game even after batting long periods and being active in the field (so quite often during the middle/end of hte innings going from long on to long on as I am pretty darn good at catching) etc. Of course, if I were to rate my fitness compared to pre knee then I'm about 0.5/10 now. I used to run 6 times a week and no less than 13kms a day (in an hour) comfortably (was tired etc but not shattered and would quite often play 6 a side footy in the evening etc. I'm back in teh gym now so hopefully as I post any new videos you'll start to see a difference. Got rid of about 1/2 a stone since the first video and hopefully will get another 1 to 2 stone gone by middle/end of April.. hopefully!!
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: Jenko on February 08, 2013, 09:10:21 PM
Keep at it lads. My best mate used to be a real talent in his younger years at cricket. Work/moving/unhealthy habits kicked in and he eventually found himself topping the scales around the 145kg mark. He went to a gym and they told him he would need to get a letter from the doctor to remove liability from them if he used there equipment and had a heart attack. He couldnt even run 100m, but was so driven and motivated he would go down and walk laps of our cricket field until he could run 100/walk 100. Gave up smoking and crap foods and kept at the walking/running and gym work......12 months later he got below 100kg and now a good couple of years on he is super fit, in the 90kg region and does 10km runs in his sleep :)

Keep at it, stay motivated and anything is possible
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: Jagminder on February 08, 2013, 09:12:21 PM
Squats and lunges that the way forward get your core right first the rest will flow
Awesome advice. :)
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: wilkie113 on February 08, 2013, 09:35:57 PM
Keep at it lads. My best mate used to be a real talent in his younger years at cricket. Work/moving/unhealthy habits kicked in and he eventually found himself topping the scales around the 145kg mark. He went to a gym and they told him he would need to get a letter from the doctor to remove liability from them if he used there equipment and had a heart attack. He couldnt even run 100m, but was so driven and motivated he would go down and walk laps of our cricket field until he could run 100/walk 100. Gave up smoking and crap foods and kept at the walking/running and gym work......12 months later he got below 100kg and now a good couple of years on he is super fit, in the 90kg region and does 10km runs in his sleep :)

Keep at it, stay motivated and anything is possible

The thing that's really motivated me is my bowling. I can't bowl as well as I used to be able to and it's really effected my cricket. I want to get for and loose weight so that I can play to the best of my ability again. It's very frustrating indeed.

Wilkers - are you doing the Choice net?  I'll show you 'realising how unfit you really are'!!!

I am fattus! I look forward to meeting you, we can compare bellys and how unfit we are. I'm not sure that I've got much time between now and the net to lose much weight but hopefully ill be a little fitter.
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: tim2000s on February 08, 2013, 10:02:15 PM
Judging fitness? A few questions to ask yourself.Could you run a half marathon in under two hours? Could you cycle 7 miles in under 30 mins, on the road, not on a static bike in the gym? Could you score a century with no boundaries, purely by running everything? Could you bowl 20 overs and maintain line and length? If the answer to these is yes, then you are probably okay. Otherwise, get training.
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: GoldenArm on February 08, 2013, 10:25:04 PM
Judging fitness? A few questions to ask yourself.Could you run a half marathon in under two hours? Could you cycle 7 miles in under 30 mins, on the road, not on a static bike in the gym? Could you score a century with no boundaries, purely by running everything? Could you bowl 20 overs and maintain line and length? If the answer to these is yes, then you are probably okay. Otherwise, get training.

You don't ask for much do you Tim!
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: tim2000s on February 08, 2013, 10:50:04 PM
No. Just the basics... ;)
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: Blazer on February 08, 2013, 11:01:00 PM
About 1.36 miles approx are covered if you were to compile 100 runs by running singles alone . I was planning on running that everyday but slacked off .
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: Cover_Drive on February 08, 2013, 11:23:45 PM
I agree with Procricket. Bowling machine is a poor way to judge fitness as it's pretty easy to face 2 or 3 hours on it. Yes the first few times you'll tire but not loads. If you want to use the machine though and have a feeder you could get someone to bowl 'overs' at your and then after a shot or two per over run singles or twos etc to replicate a game. Do that for 30 mins and then you'll know how fit you are. Especially if you time a one (sprinted) single and ensure you're as quick each time.

True; however, I personally think batting is a good way of testing out your core strength. Around 10 weeks ago my lower back and obliques would begin to hurt just after 12 minutes of batting.

I like the idea of running, will try it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: JamesC on February 09, 2013, 06:26:08 AM
Have just had my first pre-season net tuesday night (after 6 months away from the game). By Thursday i felt like i had been run over by a tank (i'm a bowler so sent a fair few down). As you get older (i'm 33) it certainly gets harder!!
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: FattusCattus on February 09, 2013, 10:34:50 AM
Wilkers - not to worry, I'm on a crash weight-gain programme, so I'll make you look good!
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: Manormanic on February 09, 2013, 04:36:31 PM
I'm actually pretty fit considering the 5 stone I've put on since 2010. I don't get tired in a game even after batting long periods and being active in the field (so quite often during the middle/end of hte innings going from long on to long on as I am pretty darn good at catching) etc.

Hmmm....I lost five stone last year and found I was waaaaaay more tired at the end of teh game than I ever was when overweight.  Might have had something to do witht he pre-match net and warm up jog, springted twos and threes (never did that in my strolled single thinking I look like Viv days) and exertions in the field!
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: Karan62 on February 09, 2013, 04:50:49 PM
Same here I have been doing some gym work recently and am a lot stronger and less fat but today I ran myself into the ground after 3 and a half hours of bowling ( of bowling that I was in control of ) , but I was tired after the first 45 mins, The rest of it was me just battling on, I think that its no use being strong and muscular if your body cant sustain it !
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: ad2606 on February 10, 2013, 12:37:34 AM
True; however, I personally think batting is a good way of testing out your core strength. Around 10 weeks ago my lower back and obliques would begin to hurt just after 12 minutes of batting.

I like the idea of running, will try it tomorrow.
There's a training aid for batting in the nets called batex (or something like that) it makes you recreate different types of innings while in the nets (eg quick 50's long 100's etc) might be worth a look of you wanting something to get you moving in the nets it's supposed to be very good and quite cheap. Haven't used it myself but have heard good things about it
Title: Re: Realising how unfit you actually are.
Post by: m.lalli on February 10, 2013, 08:58:30 AM
I've been banging on about losing weight for ages now ;)
Ever since I tore ligaments in my ankle about two years ago playing football I've done hardly any exercise, gained weight and got lazy :-[
Can't run as ankle starts to hurt gonna have to walk (boring)
Will be hitting the gym hard tomorrow!   >:(