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Title: Dodgy Rule?
Post by: Riddy on February 11, 2013, 10:48:53 AM
Had an indoor game yesterday. i was batting and we need something like 27 off the last 14 balls. I get a short ball and smah it straight back towards the bowler, going for the 6. I  creamed this ball, and bowler only has time to instinctively stick out a hand. The ball tips his finger, which diverts the ball smashing onto the umpires forehead and drops to the floor.

There was no doubting the ball was going for 6, nd im not saying the umpire did it intentionally, but i dont get the 6 runs and it goes down as a dot ball. we also ended up losing by 3 runs so it would have made a huge difference.

The umpire was fine btw
Title: Re: Dodgy Rule?
Post by: tim2000s on February 11, 2013, 11:08:33 AM
Had an indoor game yesterday. i was batting and we need something like 27 off the last 14 balls. I get a short ball and smah it straight back towards the bowler, going for the 6. I  creamed this ball, and bowler only has time to instinctively stick out a hand. The ball tips his finger, which diverts the ball smashing onto the umpires forehead and drops to the floor.

There was no doubting the ball was going for 6, nd im not saying the umpire did it intentionally, but i dont get the 6 runs and it goes down as a dot ball. we also ended up losing by 3 runs so it would have made a huge difference.

The umpire was fine btw
The ball didn't go for six, therefore it's a dot ball. What's dodgy about that?
Title: Re: Dodgy Rule?
Post by: Riddy on February 11, 2013, 11:10:58 AM
through not fault of my own, i've lost 6 runs and ( a ball, as it goes down as a dot ball). whats not dodgy about that?
Title: Re: Dodgy Rule?
Post by: aussiejake on February 11, 2013, 11:14:42 AM
You play indoor with the umpire in the net? Strange.

Common sense says that it should have been called a dead ball and the ball rebowled.
Title: Re: Dodgy Rule?
Post by: Red Ink Cricket on February 11, 2013, 11:15:13 AM
its part of the game. the only option could have been to call it a dead ball and re-bowl it but thats unlikely.

there is also the option of the ball flicking the bowlers finger but slowing it up enough for him to then take the rebound. you would then have been out and still no 6.

its frustrating when things like this 'go against you' but its all part of the game. shoe on the other foot, would you have offered to give the batting team a 6 or rebowl it? probably not
Title: Re: Dodgy Rule?
Post by: joeylough on February 11, 2013, 11:15:23 AM
well you haven't lost 6 runs as it never went. I can see the frustration as it should have gone for six. But its the same as when someone hits a nice drive and it hits the non strikers bat. Dot ball and carry on.
Title: Re: Dodgy Rule?
Post by: dmacwana on February 11, 2013, 11:26:25 AM
Nothing dodgy about that mate, part and parcel of the game. Ball hitting the stumps, the umpire or the non striker ..... just unlucky cannot do anything about it. Its a dot ball ... carry on. I am sure you wouldn't have give it as a six or re-bowled it had you been the bowler.
Title: Re: Dodgy Rule?
Post by: Riddy on February 11, 2013, 11:29:30 AM
in all fairness i put a question mark at the end of 'dodgy rule'... so i'm not out right saying it was dodgy, more of a discussion topic. Obviously it was frustrating and extremely unlucky, and cost us the game. i still maintain it should at least be a deadball
Title: Re: Dodgy Rule?
Post by: tim2000s on February 11, 2013, 11:29:53 AM
You play indoor with the umpire in the net? Strange.

Common sense says that it should have been called a dead ball and the ball rebowled.
Let's look at it in a different context. Playing outdoor cricket you pull a ball that is a surefire four, but it hits the Umpire on the leg. He isn't seriously injured, and the square leg fielder picks it up and throws it back to the keeper keeping it down to a single.

This isn't a dead ball and the situation is no different.
Title: Re: Dodgy Rule?
Post by: BigBlueMachine on February 11, 2013, 11:41:56 AM
What would happen if the ball struck the umpire, flew up into the air and was caught by the bowler?
Title: Re: Dodgy Rule?
Post by: Manormanic on February 11, 2013, 11:46:02 AM
Yeah, gotta say quick sooking and get on with the game (after checking that the guy was fine, of course...)
Title: Re: Dodgy Rule?
Post by: The_Bird on February 11, 2013, 11:47:54 AM
What would happen if the ball struck the umpire, flew up into the air and was caught by the bowler?

Out, I think the ball is still live after it strikes an umpire.
Title: Re: Dodgy Rule?
Post by: Manormanic on February 11, 2013, 11:48:37 AM
Not out - similar to if it strikes the fielders helmet or the non-striker, it is live but deemed to have been grounded.
Title: Re: Dodgy Rule?
Post by: The_Bird on February 11, 2013, 11:53:07 AM
Not out - similar to if it strikes the fielders helmet or the non-striker, it is live but deemed to have been grounded.


http://www.lords.org/text-only/laws-and-spirit/laws-of-cricket/laws/law-32-caught,58,ar.html (http://www.lords.org/text-only/laws-and-spirit/laws-of-cricket/laws/law-32-caught,58,ar.html)

Its a fair catch according to this.

Law 32, 3E
Title: Re: Dodgy Rule?
Post by: tushar sehgal on February 11, 2013, 12:54:13 PM
through not fault of my own, i've lost 6 runs and ( a ball, as it goes down as a dot ball). whats not dodgy about that?

Similar to hitting a glorious straight drive with no fielders on the boundary but ball hits the stumps and stops...Its unfortunate but not dodgy..
Title: Re: Dodgy Rule?
Post by: Pendles10 on March 06, 2013, 10:57:59 AM
You think that was a bad decision.

On saturday my team was 2 for nothing with a long time to go, The bowler (starting very wide at the crease) bowls a decent in-swinger a) I hit it b) It hit me outside leg and c) it ended up at fine leg. The umpire calls me out

But the worst thing was I was on 0 and it was an absolute ripper of a batting pitch.
Title: Re: Dodgy Rule?
Post by: SixOfTheBest on March 06, 2013, 11:21:25 AM
You think that was a bad decision.

On saturday my team was 2 for nothing with a long time to go, The bowler (starting very wide at the crease) bowls a decent in-swinger a) I hit it b) It hit me outside leg and c) it ended up at fine leg. The umpire calls me out

But the worst thing was I was on 0 and it was an absolute ripper of a batting pitch.
I can testify to that!
Title: Re: Dodgy Rule?
Post by: vibrate on March 10, 2013, 06:02:38 AM
Not a dodgy rule at all but ive never ever heard of a umpire in indoor cricket being inside of the net.
Title: Re: Dodgy Rule?
Post by: ManHOOS on March 10, 2013, 06:31:57 AM
Nothing dodgy in that infact Umpire must have shown a red card to you for hitting him :)
Title: Re: Dodgy Rule?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 10, 2013, 11:05:04 AM
Not a dodgy rule at all but ive never ever heard of a umpire in indoor cricket being inside of the net.

Umpire at both the Cheltenham and Gloucester indoors are in the same positions as in 'real' cricket. This is in no way dodgy, it's just bad luck on the batsmen part. As for a dead ball, don't be stupid. Why on earth is it a deadball, if it hit the non striker and stopped it's not a dead ball etc etc.

Nothing dodgy with this one. Next :)
Title: Re: Dodgy Rule?
Post by: The_forester on April 15, 2013, 02:41:21 PM
We've had worse in indoor cricket.
Batsman hits a rising ball as a pull shot into the netting. Undoubtedly and easy catch when it bounces slowly off the netting to a guy stood underneath. Ball goes through a small gap in the netting through and they get 2 for the run and 1 for hitting the netting. Should have been caught or a dead ball.
Guy goes on and retires.
Fuming
That's cricket.