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Forum News and Suggestions => Old Advertisers => Admin Board => Aldred Cricket Bats => Topic started by: Aldred Cricket Bats on February 14, 2013, 02:21:09 PM
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Just bit of a research really. Why do people use soft bags more now as opposed to coffins. The coffins protect your kit perfectly and actually take up less floor space in a changing room as they don't spread out. They last a lifetime really too I have still got touring coffins 15 yrs old and are still in good condition. Any thoughts guys
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I think if someone was to come up with a compact moulded plastic coffin with wheels etc which would be much lighter then i would interested.
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Possibly down to trends - coffins reflected the old-style traditional suitcase and were developed in that era. I think that the soft bags are reflective of the existing trend for sports holdalls, as well as the variety of colours and shapes that sports holdall materials can bring to bags.
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Do you not find that kit bags get trampled on in a changing room which annoyed the hell out of me even when it was someone else's kit.
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Weight and difficult to fit in cars.
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I think it is down to trends.
I'd go for a harder shell solution. I will also stack neatly in a car and protect the bat more.
Make sure you include a chilled section for a few beers!
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Weight and difficult to fit in cars.
Golfists have car boots designed for their needs! (jaguar are one firm who do that) and they use a rigid case for their paddles.
If it where wide enough to fit into a boot width ways then why not.
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The drawback with coffins is weight more than anything. Yes, they do protect your kit but they should do as they weigh a ton! They're basically flightcases for cricket gear and it seems like overkill to me. Imagine taking one of them on a bus or greeting your teammate who has just swung around to pick you up with a 3 ton behemoth....you would not be popular.
I use a duffle for netting with and I am looking at a slightly larger duffle to use for match days. I'm not even that keen on using a wheelie bag anymore but that's just down to size.
What I would love to see is a slightly more rigid duffle that retains it's shape so it will stand up a bit better with a separate pocket for boots, 1 for clothes plus another couple for bits and bobs, room inside for pads, gloves, box, thigh guards etc 2 bat pockets on the outside plus a clip to attach your lid to the outside (My BAS duffle has this and it's really useful)
Coffins are great but for the majority really impractical.
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My thoughts exactly when I was travelling about playing you could fit two coffins in the boot of a normal car and stack other kit on top where the soft bags end up bulging out everywhere and you end up having to cram them in a car boot. No heavier than a soft bag is and if its got wheels its not a problem. Expense I could understand
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I think if someone was to come up with a compact moulded plastic coffin with wheels etc which would be much lighter then i would interested.
I agree - I can't see why it hasn't been done already. They would be lighter than old style coffins too.
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We used to use this type of box in the Army.
Cheap, easy to stack, brand, and can be made from recycled materials.
Imagine something similar made for cricket.....
http://www.patrolstore.com/SuperBox-2851-Large-Wheeled-Storage-Trunk---(Gorilla-on-Wheels).html (http://www.patrolstore.com/SuperBox-2851-Large-Wheeled-Storage-Trunk---(Gorilla-on-Wheels).html)
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Coffins are so impractical it's silly, some of the changing rooms in my league can barely fit a duffle so to have somebody with a coffin would be a nightmare. Agree that a sturdier duffle with golf bag style support straps would be brilliant. Most Duffles have uncomfortable straps which is very frustrating.
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So a duffle bag a bit like the tennis guys use on tv double shoulder straps and compartments you mean
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Eddie your on about gorilla boxes I use them still I could put pictures up I required.
One another point Paul have you any of your old issues coffins or bags for sale
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I agree entirely re; duffle bags. I'm going to look at one for nets and most likely match days - leave the big bag at home and select what you need for the day.
I do agree they need to be sturdier and have more compartments. A hybrid of some of the upright bags and a duffle would be perfect. The tennis bags are a good thought...
And please, not in red and black! A lot of bags are in these colours and I really dislike them together!
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I don't understand why people take so much junk to matches. I only need a duffle bag...
With bags now similar prices to coffins, we may see a resurgence. I suspect people also like the extra room the bag you get with these sgian bags.
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So a duffle bag a bit like the tennis guys use on tv double shoulder straps and compartments you mean
Perfection, it would need to be wide enough for batting pads but a longer, slimmer bag is easier for space. It can slide under seating so it's out of the way.
Newbery do a hockey bag which is close but wouldn't fit pads in I don't think.
(http://www.prosportuk.com/images/indexprodimages/14/hockey%20bags/44.jpg)
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We used to use this type of box in the Army.
Cheap, easy to stack, brand, and can be made from recycled materials.
Imagine something similar made for cricket.....
[url]http://www.patrolstore.com/SuperBox-2851-Large-Wheeled-Storage-Trunk---(Gorilla-on-Wheels).html[/url] ([url]http://www.patrolstore.com/SuperBox-2851-Large-Wheeled-Storage-Trunk---(Gorilla-on-Wheels).html)[/url]
Exactly, a lot of hard shell luggage could potentially do the job but just isn't big enough. There is no reason that this design, plus folding handle, couldn't be made of a lighter material. I've actually been looking for something along these lines.
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3 pair of pads
2 helmets
3 pair of gloves including keeping
3 pairs of footwear
3 bats
Complete thigh protection
Minimum length for me is 100x40x40
Gorilla boxes are ok but it hard to fit bats in
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I don't understand why people take so much junk to matches. I only need a duffle bag...
With bags now similar prices to coffins, we may see a resurgence. I suspect people also like the extra room the bag you get with these sgian bags.
My excuse is that I've got mine, and my lad's...
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3 pair of pads
2 helmets
3 pair of gloves including keeping
3 pairs of footwear
3 bats
Complete thigh protection
Minimum length for me is 100x40x40
Gorilla boxes are ok but it hard to fit bats in
Are you going to War with all that stuff??
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Nope just kind I do not like people using my main kit but I share my other kit out so always take that amount it only one spare set realy
I normally carry a side Bag with whites and clothing and shower gear as well
The kit I showed on your kit 2013 is the kit in the bag I carry
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I know what you mean, someone always forgets their kit. I think it's shows is that there is a market for afforable, lightweight coffins and practical, comfortable duffles, seize the moment mr Aldred...!
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It would seem to me, judging by most of the comments, that no company has got their design 'right' for any kind of cricket bag yet! Definitely a gap in the market!
I can see a lighter more convenient coffin appealing to some, especially if the cost was brought down to a reasonable level. I can also see that a duffle, perhaps based around the design of the Newbery hockey bag The_Bird posted would pretty much tick all the boxes for a lot of people, myself included.
I do want to take less gear to cricket in general this year but I want a bag that fits it all in comfortably and doesn't require a degree in Origami to fit what kit I do take into it! Separate boot pocket and one that can carry all your clothes is a must!
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bag designs are a difficult one. theres 2 older guys at my club who had coffins for years. they have both since moved onto the same slazenger bag (dont ask me why) and they both love it.
coffins are great but without wheels are heavy and cumbersome but they do offer great protection. there are obviously the soft coffin type bags/double decker bags which are probably the closest you can get to a modern version.
the other issue is your never going to please everyone. i do agree that price is a major factor but then again some bags at the moment are £100+ and therefore not much different to some of the coffins out there.
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bag designs are a difficult one. theres 2 older guys at my club who had coffins for years. they have both since moved onto the same slazenger bag (dont ask me why) and they both love it.
coffins are great but without wheels are heavy and cumbersome but they do offer great protection. there are obviously the soft coffin type bags/double decker bags which are probably the closest you can get to a modern version.
the other issue is your never going to please everyone. i do agree that price is a major factor but then again some bags at the moment are £100+ and therefore not much different to some of the coffins out there.
I bought a soft coffin the other day the slazenger ultimate for 27 notes from sports direct as good a bag as i have used and i have used a few.
Are bags that important there the least bit important to me as long as there big enough and have a wet pouch/vault.
I just never have or do trust my bats in a bag ever
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Using this as a base;
http://www.patrolstore.com/SuperBox-2851-Large-Wheeled-Storage-Trunk---(Gorilla-on-Wheels).html (http://www.patrolstore.com/SuperBox-2851-Large-Wheeled-Storage-Trunk---(Gorilla-on-Wheels).html)
you could make something special.
Cheap, light, lots of external and internal protection, able to keep kit separate (important for wet and sweaty kit), good for branding......
They are so easy to make you could get them made in any size.
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does anybody want a gorilla box i have about 15 here
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does anybody want a gorilla box i have about 15 here
my days of those things are long gone!
all I see are boxes packed of my old army med kit.
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i used a few and a few are brand new if anybody is intrested sorry to hijack there ok i got my cricket kit back to the uk in them
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what size are they davey?