Custom Bats Cricket Forum

Forum News and Suggestions => Vulcan Cricket and Choice Cricket Centre => Old Advertisers => Admin Board => Vulcan Cricket => Topic started by: wilkie113 on February 17, 2013, 01:24:03 PM

Title: Butterfly bat review
Post by: wilkie113 on February 17, 2013, 01:24:03 PM
This bat is the one Dean had in the for sale section a while back. He had a few sticks in his bag for us all to have a go with at the Shrewsbury net, so I decided to take a punt on this butterfly bat that was rejected by Mr Fisher. Mr Fisher was mad for rejecting this, it's an absolute cannon lol.
Used this in 3/4 nets now and it's sounding very nice.

I was a bit dubious of what it would be like when I bought it, admittedly I normally like a clean blade with around 8-10 grains. But this has really changed my mind on blemished/stained bats. It's not all about the grains and clean blades if you want something to perform. I think this is only going to get better. Goes extremely well in the nets as I say, forgiving middle, and a nice pick up

Weight is 2'9 3/4,
Mid middle does extend quite low which the profile doesn't suggest.
36mm edge at the highest point 56/57mm spine
5/6 grains with a big ass butterfly stain around the middle of the blade, and one on the back of the toe.
Was finished extremely well too, even though it had been floating around in Dean's bag for a while.
Will definitely be in the bag for match days next year.

Apologies the pictures aren't the best

(http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx149/wilkie113/IMG_0003_zps74ff529d.jpg)
(http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx149/wilkie113/IMG_0004_zpsca88ce68.jpg)
(http://i750.photobucket.com/albums/xx149/wilkie113/IMG_0008_zps29100800.jpg)
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: 19reading87 on February 17, 2013, 01:33:23 PM
White grip that bad boy up.

I love the way your cheapest bat could be your best!!
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: wilkie113 on February 17, 2013, 01:36:28 PM
White grip that bad boy up.

I love the way your cheapest bat could be your best!!

Haven't got a white snake grip dude, and having a shock absorba on it doesn't feel right for some reason!

It is a gun though lol, need to thank Dean for it, so thought I'd give a little review.
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: Vulcan Cricket on February 17, 2013, 05:23:06 PM
cheers tom told you you would like it some time its not all about loads for grains  cant beat a bit of butterfly wilow ;)
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: wilkie113 on February 18, 2013, 04:51:55 PM
Looking forward to using this again tonight, top stick and will be difficult to choose what I'm going to use next year with this beauty and the H4L.

Not to mention the copy of the H4L off Ryan
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: Ryan on February 18, 2013, 05:07:37 PM
Looking forward to using this again tonight, top stick and will be difficult to choose what I'm going to use next year with this beauty and the H4L.

Not to mention the copy of the H4L off Ryan

You'll have some quality bats to choose from then :D
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: Duffers on February 18, 2013, 05:41:23 PM
Ivegot a Butterfly Hellfire and that goes like stink as well!
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: trypewriter on February 18, 2013, 05:53:13 PM
JS Wright have some interesting things to say about butterfly marks - all good.
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: wilkie113 on February 18, 2013, 06:33:23 PM
They do go extremely well, and it shouldn't really come as a surprise given that butterfly stains have superior strength. Mines a worldy lol
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: Vulcan Cricket on February 18, 2013, 07:31:24 PM
my last 4 bats have been butterfly willow tuff as old boots one of them is 4 years old  ;)
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: ACM0608 on February 18, 2013, 08:14:05 PM
I had a gm apex with a large butterfly stain just below the middle and it flew in that area. The willow was much harder and it sounded a bit odd when it hit there but it really went.
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: The_Bird on February 18, 2013, 08:28:24 PM
Here is warsops opinion of butterfly bats;


'The Butterfly is only available in adult sizes and is made from a special type of timber found in about 1% of cleft supplied. There are distinctive 'Butterfly' Markings on the blade. The timber is more suitable for the harder hitting player, i.e. offering a more resilient timber. A traditional shape with warsops famous red and black transfers and special Butterfly Logo. As with all our bats, it is made from Grade A Timber providing top quality bats for all levels of cricket'
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: Vulcan Cricket on February 18, 2013, 08:37:35 PM
we dont grade it as  A .  also hes bit hard to start with but onces they get going they sounnd and go sweet
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: tim2000s on February 19, 2013, 01:00:07 AM
we dont grade it as  A .  also hes bit hard to start with but onces they get going they sounnd and go sweet
I think the warsop grading relates to the mcc rules. All their bats can be used in proper cricket!
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: Vulcan Cricket on February 19, 2013, 06:42:17 AM
We use A ie for bats pros would use but with bats with the tsi its B even thow the tsi makes no diffents to how the bat plays
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: tim2000s on February 19, 2013, 08:11:20 AM
We use A ie for bats pros would use but with bats with the tsi its B even thow the tsi makes no diffents to how the bat plays
Right, but a grade a bat isn't necessarily one made of grade 1 willow. Ot just means a pro can use it.
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: wayward_hayward on February 19, 2013, 08:38:00 AM
Reading this thread has opened my eyes to butterfly stains. My GM Epic has a butterfly stain and was worried about the performance.

Are there any downsides to butterfly stains except the asthetics?
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: Vulcan Cricket on February 19, 2013, 10:56:53 AM
Just looks diffent and its bit stronger in my eyes
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: wilkie113 on February 19, 2013, 11:07:50 AM
Right, but a grade a bat isn't necessarily one made of grade 1 willow. Ot just means a pro can use it.

Grade A bat is surely just the rules that are made for the international/professional players bats that most bat company's abide by? As Dean said there bats are Grade A, which refers to the point that his pro's use the bats. The only bat's that are Grade B are the ones with the TSI in.

Adidas sticker there low end bats with a Grade A sticker, and I'm in no doubt they aren't grade one willow.

Either way this bat's a cannon, it does sound a bit hard but it flies, and hopefully as it opens up it'll get better
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: Buzz on February 19, 2013, 11:14:42 AM
Grade A, B and C is different from Grade 1, 2 and 3
Grade A etc refers to the laws of cricket and what bats are allowable at what levels

G1, 2, 3 etc refers to the cleanliness of the willow cleft face as frequently initially shown Wrights grading
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: wilkie113 on February 19, 2013, 11:15:38 AM
I know that Buzz, that's what I was trying to say in my post, but you've hit the nail straight on the head with that lol.
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: Vulcan Cricket on February 19, 2013, 11:16:03 AM
Right, but a grade a bat isn't necessarily one made of grade 1 willow. Ot just means a pro can use it.
are you trying to make me look like a right tit tim we no its not grade one willow look on js wrights web site were all the vulcan and choice timber comes from and it will tell about gradeing on there jesus worse than haveing kids on here some time lol
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: Number4 on February 19, 2013, 11:19:13 AM
Grade A, B and C is different from Grade 1, 2 and 3
Grade A etc referes to the laws of cricket and what bats are allowable at what levels

G1, 2, 3 etc refers to the cleanliness of the willow cleft face as lead from Wrights.

True.. Now... But in the past grade A referred to the quality of the willow and as The_Bird was quoting off Warsops website they say "Grade A Timber" which to me means they are referring to the willow grading.
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: tim2000s on February 19, 2013, 11:23:24 AM
are you trying to make me look like a right tit tim we no its not grade one willow look on js wrights web site were all the vulcan and choice timber comes from and it will tell about gradeing on there jesus worse than haveing kids on here some time lol

I think the point we were making is that the statement on Warsop's site is dumb as it doesn't tie in with either the MCC or Wright's definition.
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: trypewriter on February 19, 2013, 11:32:17 AM
You see - when a butterfly flaps its wings, it really does start a hurricane!!!  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: Number4 on February 19, 2013, 11:34:13 AM
I think Tim has a Butterfly tramp stamp  ;) :D
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: kouservice on February 19, 2013, 11:46:44 AM
Nice information, the FAQ section answers most of the question raised,
http://www.quantumcricket.com/willow.html (http://www.quantumcricket.com/willow.html)
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: Vulcan Cricket on February 19, 2013, 11:51:48 AM
I think the point we were making is that the statement on Warsop's site is dumb as it doesn't tie in with either the MCC or Wright's definition.
tim I don't care what they put I don't sit there reading what other brand put . I just worry about vulcan cricket and choice willow if was to say what I felt about some things that are put on here I would be kicked off for saying it.  Why don't you ring up warsop speck to tony and have it out with him. Sorry to rant but that's life.  Dean
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: Kulli on February 19, 2013, 12:23:50 PM
tim I don't care what they put I don't sit there reading what other brand put . I just worry about vulcan cricket and choice willow if was to say what I felt about some things that are put on here I would be kicked off for saying it.  Why don't you ring up warsop speck to tony and have it out with him. Sorry to rant but that's life.  Dean

 >:(
Title: Re: Butterfly bat review
Post by: wilkie113 on February 19, 2013, 04:57:35 PM
>:(

What's with the angry face dude?