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Forum News and Suggestions => Competitions => Topic started by: jawad195 on July 09, 2009, 08:01:00 PM
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iam going to launch my new brand of cricket bats. i want somebody to design sticker. the name is " black scorpion " . i want scorpion image on the back of bat like slazenger bats. the sticker should metallic shinny.
winner will get my brand bat for 50% off price. my brand bats are double layered blade bats. yeah u heard right double layered blade , they are awesome.
so now get to work and send me sticker design.
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/02thoeva/plainbat.jpg (http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i29/02thoeva/plainbat.jpg)
above is general bat template for ur design. ( it is not the one iam going to launch , its just template to work on ).
Thankyou
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You cannot sell a double layered cricket bat, it will not be allowed to be used in cricket by the MCC.
Bat design pic is good though, did you make it?
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jawad 1985, do you make these bats yourself?
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how wud a double layed bat work?
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Laminated I assume and illegal like Tom says....
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good luck jawad, i get the feeling you'll be staring down the barrel of a gun with your 'double layered' bats selling point - but good luck!
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i wud buy one as they are aswome and some pros maybe using some like it as its being investigated, but i wud 100% get one and whos gonna know in non countie cricket
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How do you know they're awesome?
If I were to buy one I'd buy one from a company who actually makes them for players. There's a few ways you can laminate to get better performance and I'd rather buy from a company who can do it well than someone who is importing them.
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Very easy to do, very hard to perfect.
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So someone comes on a forum and says they are going to be selling illegal bats.... Asks for a sticker design everyone knows the brand name and bat name and sticker design. You see one out there when you're playing and say hey up that bat is illegal Mr Umpire can you check it out. MCC call new bat company and there ends the bat empire for that company
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after reading some of the post about the the bat, iam going to launch that it is illigal. will somebody please send me the reference number of law about the bat. i will put some pics next time on forum for you guys.
about the making of these bats , no i dont make these bats by myself but i have batmaker who do it.
thanks for all ur feedbacks
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Law 6 is the one to read.
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i check law 6 , it didnt say anything about laminated bats.
LAW 6 ( The Bat )
1. Width and length
The bat overall shall not be more than 38 inches/96.5cm in length. The blade of the bat shall be made solely of wood and shall not exceed 4 1/4 in/10.8cm at the widest part.
2. Covering the blade
The blade may be covered with material for protection, strengthening or repair. Such material shall not exceed 1/16 in/1.56mm in thickness, and shall not be likely to cause unacceptable damage to the ball.
3. Hand or glove to count as part of bat
In these Laws,
(a) reference to the bat shall imply that the bat is held by the batsman.
(b) contact between the ball and
either (i) the striker's bat itself
or (ii) the striker's hand holding the bat
or (iii) any part of a glove worn on the striker's hand holding the bat
shall be regarded as the ball striking or touching the bat, or being struck by the bat.
© Marylebone Cricket Club 2003
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one of mate ask " how do i know they are awesome ? " , i used them in 4 premier league matches and in couple of sidematches. after middeling the ball , the ball fly like rocket.
As i used them in premier league matchs too , nobody say the bat is illigal.
our premier league runs on ICC rules.
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check the updated mcc laws from may 2008
http://www.lords.org/data/files/law-6-and-appendix-e-10183.pdf (http://www.lords.org/data/files/law-6-and-appendix-e-10183.pdf)
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i check the update of mcc may 2008
part 4 is about the blade i think.
part 4(b) says " The blade shall consist solely of Wood " . SO my my brand bat is solely wood.
part 4(c) says " no MATERIAL may be placed on or inserted into either the blade or the lower portion of ............. .
so my question is " DID THE MATERIAL MEANS WOOD? WORD MATERIAL GOT SO MAY EXPLNAITIONS. I WANT REPLACEMNT OF WORD MATERIAL WITH CLEAR IDENTIFIED MATERIALS. AS IT IS LAW IT SHOULD BE CRYSTAL CLEAR TO EVERYBODY.
IF SOMEBODY ASK ME FOR THE EXPALNAITION OF WORD MATERIAL HERE . I WILL SAY THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT MATERIALS OTHER THEN WOOD, AS IT HAPPEND IN PAST WITH DENNIS LILEE , USING ALUMINUM BAT ( THIS IS MATERIAL TO ME ) .
CORRECT ME IF IAM WRONGE.
THANKYOU
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If your bat has glue in it joining the pieces of wood then it's not solely wood and it does have a material except wood inserted in it. If you have managed to join 2 pieces of wood without glue or any other adhesive then it is legal.
Ring up the MCC Laws Dept and they will confirm laminated bats are banned.
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your reply says any other adhasive other then glue is legal
so
what can be any other adhasive material other then glue? will u show it or name it to me.
will you share your information Tom?
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No, maybe I wasn't very clear. What I'm saying is no adhesive can be used at all. Glue, chewing gum or anything else.
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;D i like chewing gum idea Tom . hahahahah .
Law says Bat blade should be made of solely of wood. it didn't mention that it shouldn't be two piece of wood. it didn't say anything about one piece of wood for blade or two or three pieces.
they only said that it should be solely made of wood.
if glue is objectionable material then i will say they shouldn't use it for handle fixing too. becaz according to law the bat should be made solely of wood.
correct me if iam wrong
Thankyou
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Jawad, you are plainly too stupid to launch a paper airplane, let alone a new brand. Good Luck.
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i agree with talisman
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I say give it a go, try little wooden nails to join the wood together.
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i think stupid is not me but the law looks stupid to me becaz its not 100% clear. so many question arises after reading bat law.
iam not launching steel or iron bat so dont compare the bat with paper airplane.
what is technically wronge with my bat? tel me
i saw 3 inch thick blade bat , and for my bat iam getting the same kind of thickness in two layers of wood. so what is diffrence between single piece 3 inch blade and two piece 3 inch blade ?
will u explain to me talisman?
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Just give us a picture of the blade and how its glued on.
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i can email you the pic becaz i try here to upload but it give me error message. i mailed to ur hotmail check it
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could i see it as well please. alridd@hotmail.co.uk
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THE BAT IS ILLEGAL no matter how hard you try to tell us it isn't, it is.
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jawad send me a PM and I will then send you my email address and you can send the pics etc. I will discuss the 'new' law with you.
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Sorry mate can't upload the pictures of the bat right now.
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With regard to Laminated cricket bat blades,,,,,,, I work and advise the MCC law makers and I can tell you that Laminated bats are ,most Definitely not allowed.
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OK GUYS AS IAM NOT CONVINCED TOTALY BUT AFTER READING ON FORUM , I WILL SAY
MY BAT IS NOT FOR COUNTY PLAYERS, I WILL SELL MY BAT TO THOSE NON COUNTY PLAYERS. IAM SURE MCC WILL ALLOW THIS BAT TO NON COUNTY PLAYERSS.
AS THERE ARE MORE NON COUNTY PLAYERS AS COMPARE TO COUNTY PLAYERS.
SO I WILL SAY COUNTY PLAYERS DONT BUY THIS BAT AS THIS ILLEGAL FOR THEM BUT THE NON COUNTY PLAYERS LIKE IT , WHICH IAM SURE MILLIONS OUT THERE.THEY CAN BUY IF THEY WANT.
iam using this bat in my NON COUNTY league and my league is ok with this.
so all those non county players who are interested can buy this bat.
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Jawad, go for it, despite the fact that you have no knowledge of anything with regard to bats or cricket you still type away claiming you do. The bat if you could make it, which you can't, would be banned and as pointed out before would have your branding on it so that it could be identified and the user and their team banned and in league cricket lose points etc. What a great idea, maybe that is why real cricket companies don't use laminated bats.
MB Malik have been making these bats for years, but do not sell them in the UK.
Now since you cannot even design a sticker without asking someone here to have a go for you be a good boy and stick to dreaming.
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Well Talisman he has sent me pictures of the bat and it to me it looks like a good bat so he can make it or have it made!
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Well Talisman he has sent me pictures of the bat and it to me it looks like a good bat so he can make it or have it made!
Post it then.
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Well Talisman he has sent me pictures of the bat and it to me it looks like a good bat so he can make it or have it made!
It's sounds like the kind of venture you would be suited to walshy, with your vast knowledge and experience you would make a great team.
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I can't post them as my computer is broken and before you ask how am I posting I am on a friends notebook.
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HI ALL MATES
AFTER ALL THIS BORING DICUSSION ABOUT TH EDOUBLE BLADE BAT , I TALKED TO MY BAT MAKER AND WE COME UP WITH THE DECISION THAT WE WILL LAUNCH NEW BAT WHICH WILL BE ACCEPTBLE
BUT
WE WILL ALSO KEEP SELLING DOUBLE BLADE TOO , FOR NET PRACTICES , IF SOMEBODY WANT TO BUY.
NEW BAT DESIGN AND PICS WILL COME SOON.
PLUS MY QUESTION FOR TALISMAN
MATE WHAT IS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CARBON HANDLE BAT AND CANE HANDLE BAT? WHY BAT MAKER INSERTED CARBON IN HANDLE? WHAT IS THERE MOTIVE BEHIND IT? IS IT TO GIVE ELASTICITY TO BAT , SO THAT BALL ROLL FASTER WHEN HIT? IF AWNSER IS "YES"
THEN THERE IS NO DIFFERERNCE BETWEEN CARBON HANDLE BAT AND DOUBLE BALDE BAT.
IF CARBON HANDLE IS ONLY THEIR FOR GIVE STRENGHT TO HANDLE AND NOT CONTRIBUTING IN THE BALL SPEED THEN ITS OK BUT IF BESDIE GIVING STRENGHH TO HANDLE IT ALSO SPEED UP BALL SPEED WHEN HIT THEN I THINK ITS ILLEGAL TOO.
NEED UR OPINION PLEASE.
KEEP IN MIND , IAM NOT DEFENDING MY DOUBLE BLADE BAT ANYMORE. ITS JUST FOR DICUSSION AND FOR KNOWLEDGE PURPOSE.
AND ALL OTHER MATES ARE ALSO WELLCOME TO COMMENT ON MY QUESTIONS TOO.
KEEP IN MIND ITS ONLY FOR DICUSSION AND KNOWLEDGE SHEARING PURPOSE.
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You mean the carbon handles that are now illegal too?
You are either being poorly advised or are extremely thick, for someone claiming they have a bat maker and are launching a brand, your research is very poor. Your thread seems very similar to another bright spark who is active in this topic.
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So you want to produce a really great new innovative bat which performs a lot better just for nets?
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Skipper u look more thicker then me , if u look at my post iam trying to forward a topic for dicussion but u insted of giving ur opinion or view , you started saying that iam claiming the carbon handle illegal.
i mentioned that what u guys think about the carbon handle technology . is it only for the handle strenght or there is any other motive behind it.
And Tom , did MCC banned the double blade bat for net practice too?
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I looked at your post carefully, more carefully than you have bothered to read anyone else's I am guessing, why ask for advice if you won't listen to it?
1. The bat you want to sell is usless and can't be used in matches.
2. The carbon handle argument is useless because it is ILLEGAL as well, somthing both you and your supposed bat maker should be well aware of."
Good luck with selling super performing net bats though.
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This has to go down as one of my all time favourite CB forum threads...
Ok the handle lets not forget Law 6 for Grade A States - 10% or less materials other than cane, wood and twine in the handle - so 10% of other materials can still be used.
So you could still have a carbon handle....
Lamination of the blade is only allowable for repair and that is debatable.... A laminated bat is not acceptable in any form of Cricket.
You and your bat maker need to discuss bit and pieces yourselves.... There is no need in having a bat maker and asking Talisman questions. Your bat maker will have an opinion and should know the new laws and his handle preferences.
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I've been inspired by the thread and have asked my batmaker to make me a bat with a face 15 inches wide, I think this would solve Englands batting woes and be a big seller straight away....
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I am getting one sorted out with a super lower drag coefficient and piezoelectric damping for those big hits and fast swing speed, whilst being comfortable in the hands
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i think somebody should work on glowing bat too , like if you hit the ball , it will glow with different colour lights for a couple of seconds. hahahah
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please tell me your joking
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Of course he is.
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back onto the laminated bats, do u currently sell them? if so do u have a website??
cheers
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i sold 7 bats so far. players in my city buy them and love them. i dont have wesite right now as iam working on stickers when all these matters done then i will work on website.
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ok mate kl cheers.
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Im sorry to bring up and old topic, but this is absolute gold.
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His brand definitely kicked off...
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After reading this, I think Admin should make up a new section of Classic Posts. This would definitely make it!
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Agreed! ^
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Definitely.
Can't believe in all the bagging of the laminated blade noone mocked the fool for his "generous" offer of a discount to the person who designed stickers for him!
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i think somebody should work on glowing bat too , like if you hit the ball , it will glow with different colour lights for a couple of seconds. hahahah
Think a patent is in order. BBL might take you up on that??
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Haha, i just came across this, what a wackjob.
JPGavan cricket are allready selling these net bats, but pretty much had to stop as it was over 3 pounds and could seriously injure anybody that was to use the bat, although he specifically stated it is to be used for nets only, he designed it so that it makes you stronger in the arms.
Biggest Cricket Bat? 105mm edge (JPGavan Tyrant limited edition) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyDO2GrTCx8#ws)
I love this guys knowledge, and the amount of capital letters and arguing he did with you guys, even though you were trying to tell him the true laws, this has to go down as the best thread I have ever witnessed on a forum!.
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Haha, i just came across this, what a wackjob.
JPGavan cricket are allready selling these net bats, but pretty much had to stop as it was over 3 pounds and could seriously injure anybody that was to use the bat, although he specifically stated it is to be used for nets only, he designed it so that it makes you stronger in the arms.
Biggest Cricket Bat? 105mm edge (JPGavan Tyrant limited edition) ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyDO2GrTCx8#ws[/url])
I love this guys knowledge, and the amount of capital letters and arguing he did with you guys, even though you were trying to tell him the true laws, this has to go down as the best thread I have ever witnessed on a forum!.
Agreed, triple cleft bats are wacky. But I'm not a wackjob. Good to get the clarification right...