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Title: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: fasteddie on February 26, 2013, 01:35:53 PM
I've had a quick scout around and can't find the answer in older posts.

I'm ambivalent as to which, I just want the best solution.

My Aldred has a naked toe and before the season begins I'll need to give it something.

Over to you.
Which?
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: Chad on February 26, 2013, 01:42:41 PM
I put shoe goo, as it completely seals off any exposed wood on the toe, while toe guards tend to leave a little space between scuff and the guard unprotected, so water can seep in there. The benefit of shoe goo is that you can put a few layers, and it won't come off as easily as a toe guard if you hit a ball on the toe!

Hope this helps! :)
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: fasteddie on February 26, 2013, 01:54:17 PM
Thanks Chad.

A quick q.
When you slide your bat in does it tend to 'grab' or can you slide with ease?
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: ajmw89 on February 26, 2013, 02:00:52 PM
You can slide with ease.  Although I have found if you arre a compulsive tapper at the crease, it can wear away quickly on hard surfaces
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: ewan68 on February 26, 2013, 02:05:38 PM
The guys at Vitas have put some resin on the bottom of my Fireblade,looks like a much better option than a toe guard,they ALWAYS seem to come off...seen loads of discarded ones all over the place over the last few years!!
Not sure about the relative merits of shoo goo?!
Have asked them to do the same on the B & S Supreme that my mate is ordering!!





Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: Chad on February 26, 2013, 02:07:11 PM
It does depend, as you feel it is pretty grippy when you first use it, but I think that the surface becomes less 'sticky' as you use it. I would put 2-3 layers, and saliva tends to work best when smoothing it over, but careful not to lick any shoe goo if you do this! Water is a safer option! :D
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: Red Ink Cricket on February 26, 2013, 02:15:36 PM
i have never used shoe goo so cant comment but do fit toe guards to my bats. ive found that the better toe guards that stay on are those stiffer ones. ive sourced some from various places and the first ones i had were poor. slight tapping at the crease or dig out a yorker and they were off. offered absolutely no protection to the toe whatsoever. the batch i have at the moment are great. Alot stiffer in comparison and i havent had one come off yet. they stay on that well that when i refurbed an early one i had to power sand off the toe guard to replace. it was worn but the remainder just wouldnt shift!

i tend to oil the gap between the scuff sheet and the toeguard but can see the benefit of shoe goo. maybe theres space for both?
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: johnrockin on February 26, 2013, 02:17:23 PM
Shoe goo is the best option. Spread it on with an old knife, or piece of card and use a wet finger to smooth it down :) You'll get loads of bats fitted with one tube, so it's cheap as well. I got mine from ebay.
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: ajmw89 on February 26, 2013, 02:21:28 PM
Glue a toe guard on with shoe goo perhaps?
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: fasteddie on February 26, 2013, 02:28:03 PM
Loads of good advice.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: Chad on February 26, 2013, 02:30:04 PM
Glue a toe guard on with shoe goo perhaps?

Could try that, but it would be a little thick, wouldn't it? May stay on a bit better though!
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: ajmw89 on February 26, 2013, 02:36:37 PM
One layer of shoe goo, folded over the toe, Whack the toe guard on, wait for it to dry then sand flat and smooth.  Shoe goo is better adhesive than the stuff they give you in teh toe guard packs
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: uknsaunders on February 26, 2013, 02:56:23 PM
is everybody insane? Whats wrong with linseed oil on the toe? It doesn't weigh anything, doesn't fall off, isn't messy to apply and protects your toe from water.
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: Kulli on February 26, 2013, 03:02:47 PM
Resin is a big no no, makes the toe more likely to split as the bond is stronger than the wood.
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: ajmw89 on February 26, 2013, 03:03:36 PM
is everybody insane? Whats wrong with linseed oil on the toe? It doesn't weigh anything, doesn't fall off, isn't messy to apply and protects your toe from water.

Doesn't protect the toe from damage.  For the sake of an extra oz or so, I'd rather have the protection
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: Simmy on February 26, 2013, 03:03:46 PM
is everybody insane? Whats wrong with linseed oil on the toe? It doesn't weigh anything, doesn't fall off, isn't messy to apply and protects your toe from water.

true story! not fussed for toe guards
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: uknsaunders on February 26, 2013, 03:09:33 PM
guys from Kippax recommended I use Linseed oil, they even applied it for me when I was last there.
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: ACM0608 on February 26, 2013, 03:09:46 PM
is everybody insane? Whats wrong with linseed oil on the toe? It doesn't weigh anything, doesn't fall off, isn't messy to apply and protects your toe from water.

Go to agree thats all I do with my bats.
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: Fezballoh on February 26, 2013, 04:50:44 PM
Me too. And also (one for the sticker weighers here!), in a game of fractions like our one, why would you make the most useless part of your bat a whole thin edge longer than you needed it to be?! Oil all the way for me.
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: Milky Bar Kid on February 26, 2013, 06:01:33 PM
In my experience toe guards have always come off. So far the bats that I shoegooed last year are still ok. No major wear or anything. For my new salix I bout one of these for the nets: http://www.morrant.com/cricket_bat_accessories/bat_toe_guard/46998_p.html (http://www.morrant.com/cricket_bat_accessories/bat_toe_guard/46998_p.html)
Will see how that goes in the nets.
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: fatbats on February 26, 2013, 06:27:04 PM
I use gorilla glue on my personal bats and re-apply every 2-3 weeks as dries in 10 min and easy to apply
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: Jagminder on February 26, 2013, 06:49:08 PM
Shoe-goo works like a dream - if applied properly it becomes part of the bat. :)
My bats have them since 2010 and still going strong - its doesn't get stuck  while grounding bat.
Bet'n I am not a heavy tapper in the crease.

Jag.
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: fasteddie on February 26, 2013, 06:55:56 PM
Shoe-goo works like a dream - if applied properly it becomes part of the bat. :)
My bats have them since 2010 and still going strong - its doesn't get stuck  while grounding bat.
Bet'n I am not a heavy tapper in the crease.

Jag.

Is this the Jag who plays at the HAC?
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: thecord on February 26, 2013, 08:06:32 PM
Always just gone with oil on mine and never had any problems with that. New H4L has a toe guard though so will see how that goes
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: Karan62 on February 26, 2013, 08:12:09 PM
at choice they had toe inserts which seemed a good idea
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: fasteddie on February 26, 2013, 08:17:57 PM
at choice they had toe inserts which seemed a good idea

you're correct.

My question is more about keeping the water out.
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: Karan62 on February 26, 2013, 08:20:19 PM
ok , I had seen some plastic guards that go around the toe completely blocking anything out at boundary sports, it could be worth a shot it looks ghastly though
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: fasteddie on February 26, 2013, 08:21:54 PM
ok , I had seen some plastic guards that go around the toe completely blocking anything out at boundary sports, it could be worth a shot it looks ghastly though

Exactly, my ego would never allow that to happen, however my team mates would feast on that for years!
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: wilkie113 on February 26, 2013, 08:24:27 PM
There isn't much difference on the 'ball ache' scale  when it comes to fitting a toe guard or shoe goo I don't think. I personally use shoe goo, as you can see any nasty's that could occur in the toe. Whether that's just me making things up in my head or not I don't know!
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: Jagminder on February 26, 2013, 08:41:45 PM
Is this the Jag who plays at the HAC?

I am here in US mate. So I guess no. :)

Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: fasteddie on February 26, 2013, 09:17:20 PM
Ok, so if in doubt ask a pro.

......and he said....PVA glue.

Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: Fezballoh on February 27, 2013, 07:57:06 AM
PVA makes me crazy! Try this but trust me. Unless you use exterior grade PVA woodglue then the glue will soften and go white again as soon as you get it wet.
Title: Re: Toe protector or shoo goo?
Post by: Vic Nicholas on February 27, 2013, 05:58:10 PM
I use shoe goo.

Works like a dream.