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Title: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: toenails97 on March 13, 2013, 05:49:10 PM
Hi Lads,
I would be very grateful if you's could help me out with my batting! Ive got another 5 weeks of nets booked so will hopefully have access to the camera each week to post how im getting on.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Cheers lads
Tony

CLIP0001 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ1z1pckfDk#ws)
CLIP0003 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JPOc5bnm-I#ws)
CLIP0005 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZy4MGBevr4#ws)
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: fasteddie on March 13, 2013, 05:56:11 PM
The third clip, the first minute.
Two thoughts.

1) You don't need to play at many of the deliveries.
2) When you face-up, your bat face is 'closed'. When you bring it down it's like Greame Smith. Twist the bat until the face points away from you. When you bring it down it will be more square to the wicket.

I hope I explained that Ok.
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: toenails97 on March 13, 2013, 05:58:26 PM
The third clip, the first minute.
Two thoughts.

1) You don't need to play at many of the deliveries.
2) When you face-up, your bat face is 'closed'. When you bring it down it's like Greame Smith. Twist the bat until the face points away from you. When you bring it down it will be more square to the wicket.

I hope I explained that Ok.

Thanks very much mate appreciate the reply!
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: 100 not out on March 13, 2013, 09:21:16 PM
Does your grip feel right to you??
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: LEACHY48 on March 13, 2013, 09:26:27 PM
your hands seem to go quite far away from your body and result in you playing out to in, and therefore your connection isnt as clean as it could be, really try to keep your hands dead behind you, or just over middle and off.

Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: toenails97 on March 13, 2013, 09:27:15 PM
Does your grip feel right to you??
It does to me mate however reds asked me the same thing :o
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: toenails97 on March 13, 2013, 09:27:46 PM
your hands seem to go quite far away from your body and result in you playing out to in, and therefore your connection isnt as clean as it could be, really try to keep your hands dead behind you, or just over middle and off.
Ok mate ill bear that in mind and try it out Friday :)
Cheers mate!
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: Ryan on March 13, 2013, 09:55:00 PM
Last vid you don't seem to move your feet at all towards the all. Your not getting in line with the delivery and therefore playing away from your body. Try and get in line with each delivery, and play under your eyes rather than away from your body as that's when you loose shape and control.  "Keep tight"

Hope that makes sense. 
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: Ryan on March 13, 2013, 10:01:05 PM
The first vid your doing what I used to do. Basically your hitting from inside out when driving the ball. What you need to do to counter this (its worked wonders for me btw) is to look at the following...

Bat pickup point - your initially picking you bat up at backward point and then rotating round and down, you need to lick the bat up closer (maybe second slip) this will bring the bat down straighter and help.

Also you seem to have a closed grip. I'd recommend that you open it a little so your thumb and finger line up with the back of the splice.

This should do the trick...I'll try and get a new vid and old vid of me batting to highlight the changes I've made.

Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: toenails97 on March 13, 2013, 10:03:02 PM
That would be great mate :)
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: procricket on March 13, 2013, 10:04:26 PM
Ryan it will be used against you my friend
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: Ryan on March 13, 2013, 10:07:10 PM
Oh, and try and hold your position when you've played a shot. That will be a good indicator when checking balance. 

Maybe get your mate to "pretend" feed now and then (go to put the ball in and stop),  this will check that your getting in position (in line with the ball)
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: Ryan on March 13, 2013, 10:08:09 PM
Ryan it will be used against you my friend

Not fussed dave, I know I'll get nowt against you anyway lol
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: procricket on March 13, 2013, 10:12:01 PM
You will mate had a bit of a hit with the bat mate...

Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: acko109 on March 14, 2013, 09:59:57 PM
From just watching the first video id say your hands are a little too far away from your body so as your trying to bring the bat through straight your actually bringing it down towards mid on... try to tuck your hands in a bit more and bring your bat from first slip instead of gully.
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: toenails97 on March 14, 2013, 10:01:21 PM
From just watching the first video id say your hands are a little too far away from your body so as your trying to bring the bat through straight your actually bringing it down towards mid on... try to tuck your hands in a bit more and bring your bat from first slip instead of gully.
Ok mate ill give it ago Sunday :)
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: toenails97 on November 24, 2013, 05:15:54 PM
If anyone's interested he's an update - still shocking but nevermind!
http://youtu.be/BOMGd_UPws8 (http://youtu.be/BOMGd_UPws8)
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: mo_town on November 24, 2013, 06:03:02 PM
Just curious...what speed are those balls being bowled at by the bowling machine?
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: toenails97 on November 24, 2013, 06:19:54 PM
Just curious...what speed are those balls being bowled at by the bowling machine?
65mph so not fast really
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: 19reading87 on November 24, 2013, 09:54:57 PM
You are still wrapping that bottom hand round the bat :(
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: toenails97 on November 24, 2013, 09:58:34 PM
You are still wrapping that bottom hand round the bat :(
I'll have to get that sorted ASAP mark :(
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: Gingerbusiness on November 24, 2013, 10:14:40 PM
When you drive, get your hips moving through the ball. You are trying to get all the power from your hands which will throw your balance off.

Its like trying to hit a golf ball too hard. Its a whole body movement.
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: toenails97 on December 08, 2013, 01:04:31 PM
Here's a clip from today:
http://youtu.be/1CasTuuEQkk (http://youtu.be/1CasTuuEQkk)
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: mk_chappo on December 08, 2013, 01:59:00 PM
I'll have to get that sorted ASAP mark :(
Try cutting a squash ball in half and taping it to your right hand glove on the inside 'heel'. Should stop you being able to grip the bat so hard with your bottom hand. I'm sure I heard this was something that Adam Gilchrist used to do from time to time.
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: GarrettJ on December 08, 2013, 02:16:45 PM
some nice shots and the stance is looking a lot better

bottom hand still looks a bit off but one but at a time.

Try batting on leg stump for one net, see how it feels.

watch the videos on the first post and watch this one ... you can see that you have improved ......... especially stance and backlift.
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: tuffers007 on December 08, 2013, 04:48:20 PM
from watching the 1st 3 vids then watching the last one I would say well done!!
my comment about the 1st three was that you appeared to be just wafting at the ball and not playing with any commitment or purpose. but after seeing the last one that has all but gone, very solid and playing your shots like you mean them!!
great improvement in such a short time frame. nothing technical from me as im usless with the bat but I can see your confidence has improved immensely.
well done!!
however being bowler I would love to bowl at you. just the type of challenge I like!!
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: toenails97 on December 08, 2013, 04:58:15 PM
from watching the 1st 3 vids then watching the last one I would say well done!!
my comment about the 1st three was that you appeared to be just wafting at the ball and not playing with any commitment or purpose. but after seeing the last one that has all but gone, very solid and playing your shots like you mean them!!
great improvement in such a short time frame. nothing technical from me as im usless with the bat but I can see your confidence has improved immensely.
well done!!
however being bowler I would love to bowl at you. just the type of challenge I like!!
Thanks very much mate, well get yourself to durham sometime haha ;)
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: tuffers007 on December 08, 2013, 05:01:54 PM
challenge accepted however your a bit too far away! if your ever down on the fylde coast we can battle!!
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: toenails97 on December 08, 2013, 05:08:39 PM
Yeah it's a pain as I can't go to the vitas events or anything like that, but nevermind..... Yeah if I'm ever down I'll give you a shout and we'll see what we can do :)
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: Torque on December 08, 2013, 05:27:27 PM
What kit are you using tony?
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: toenails97 on December 08, 2013, 05:28:56 PM
What kit are you using tony?
Salix bat
Masuri
Stretton fox thigh pads
Lorimers pads
Lorimers gloves
However this year I've got kookaburra pro gear just don't want to ruin them when training
Title: Re: The Good, The Bad & The Ugly..... HELP NEEDED!
Post by: Ryan on December 08, 2013, 05:59:30 PM
A massive improvement from the first video. Keep working at it.

Just a couple of observations,  firstly you look like you're batting on middle or middle and off. Might be worth opening up to leg or two.

Keep grooving those shots and your muscle memory will take over.