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Forum News and Suggestions => Old Advertisers => Admin Board => Aldred Cricket Bats => Topic started by: i12breakfree on March 20, 2013, 12:04:53 PM
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Even though getting late for work this morning....i have to post these pics ....
A quick summary - Took Paul's Silver bat offer and got a custom shape....Long handle , short blade , spine that ends at the toe and thick meaty profile
Here's what paul delivers - masterpiece (with one Issue - working with Paul to resolve it)
Ping is amazing - one of the best i have seen
Finish is top notch
Enjoy the pics for now
(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/AldredBat002_zpsdfc5c937.jpg)
(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/AldredBat001_zpsfb47422c.jpg)
(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/AldredBat003_zpsfdebf40f.jpg)
(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/AldredBat004_zps239c1279.jpg)
(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/AldredBat006_zpsf708ff86.jpg)
(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/AldredBat007_zpse1800e4a.jpg)
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That's HUGE! How heavy is it? 8)
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thats the 2'9 - 2'10 bat isn't it? T-20 use?
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thats the 2'9 - 2'10 bat isn't it? T-20 use?
The weight is the issue
Requested weight was 2lb 9oz
As per paul it should be 2lb 9oz
But my scale shows 2lb 11.8 oz...and that is the reason for can of soup weigh scale test
I am confident that my scale is correct ...the bat is for a friend who will see it today.
If he likes it we are good ..if not we need CBF to arrange a Duel (just kidding.. respect Paul ..lets see how this bat thing goes)
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You've got to love an Aldred!
You've given me a twitchy finger...
That's a great idea and excellently executed.
Mr A is certainly building a well deserved rep.
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We will get there. As I said to i12 my scales say 2-9 but hay ho. I am happy with my scales but looks like I am going to have to look at others. Don't get many people query out of the dozens we send out but what can I say the customers are always right.it is an absolute beaut and the same weight as I would have used as a pro and it feels very very nice indeed. First one I have made of that particular style.
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The weight is the issue
Requested weight was 2lb 9oz
As per paul it should be 2lb 9oz
But my scale shows 2lb 11.8 oz...and that is the reason for can of soup weigh scale test
I am confident that my scale is correct ...the bat is for a friend who will see it today.
If he likes it we are good ..if not we need CBF to arrange a Duel (just kidding.. respect Paul ..lets see how this bat thing goes)
it could be 2'9 naked? may that's where the gap was? hope your friend likes it....
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I'm thinking the same thing Tushar.
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I'd use it and I'm not into gimmicky bats or kit. It still looks like a traditional cricket bat which is good in my eyes. I'm keeping my fingers crossed his friend likes it as I spent ages on it as I haven't made that shape before and I do genuinely get very upset if something isn't right as each bat that goes out is incredibly personal to me. But let's see eh.
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I'd use it and I'm not into gimmicky bats or kit. It still looks like a traditional cricket bat which is good in my eyes. I'm keeping my fingers crossed his friend likes it as I spent ages on it as I haven't made that shape before and I do genuinely get very upset if something isn't right as each bat that goes out is incredibly personal to me. But let's see eh.
Don't worry Paul, if Amit's friend doesn't like it I might take it off him ;)..in my weight range that if it truly is 2'11 dressed...
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Paul, I think it's time for some digital scales! ;)
Saying this because if you remember correctly something similar happened to my bat and I unfortunately have to sell it on since it was too heavy for me. Would not have been an issue if I were based in the UK but if you stay overseas it becomes a bit tricky.
Gotta admit that that's the only thing that's keeping me from ordering another Aldred since you are delivering some beauties!
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That is a very nice looking bat mate. I like the shape
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looks amazing!
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Well guys looks like I have got to get some digital scales to keep up with all you guys with them but forgive me for my confidence with the ones I use which weren't cheap although not vastly expensive ones but as I was so worried today I ran over to my mates hard wear shop and pinched some of their old scale weights that they used to use and here's some photos with the results. But like I say I will have to get some electronic if that's the case . Firstly the 1Lb then added the 4oz then the 2oz to weigh up to 1Lb 6oz
(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t472/Aldredcricket/328be64a213cc74866c1807ba6d12845_zpsa25e7ec6.jpg)
(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t472/Aldredcricket/b44bd855226d7e522506fa0ae6e9488f_zpsa65e2ca8.jpg)
(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t472/Aldredcricket/e3f0d7b440ed3c0d49500007760f836f_zps87026e94.jpg)
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Gary at choice uses an old fashioned set of scales.
If they work they work.
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looks pretty acurate to me? lol
i use these one as done ryan and a few other people they are spot on and dirt cheap
http://www.tesco.com/direct/salter-electronic-platform-scales/203-7286.prd?pageLevel=&skuId=203-7286&kpid=203-7286&sc_cmp=ppc_g__ (http://www.tesco.com/direct/salter-electronic-platform-scales/203-7286.prd?pageLevel=&skuId=203-7286&kpid=203-7286&sc_cmp=ppc_g__)
roger at solitaire uses old fashion scales as well..
they are out by 2oz
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It's the chicken or the egg scenario :D why is it that the old style scales are out why couldn't it be the digital. But then why shouldn't it be the old ones that are wrong. Hmmmm questions questions.
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It's the chicken or the egg scenario :D why is it that the old style scales are out why couldn't it be the digital. But then why shouldn't it be the old lobes that are wrong. Hmmmm questions questions.
I think if anything old fasioned ones are more accurate as long as they are maintained and checked for accuracy every now and then, I think yours are bang on as per the pic...to be honest most people won't even notice the difference of an oz or two...I am sure Amit's mate will love the bat
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google search - Hardware shop - weights - 33029
Nothing shows up :)
Just kidding
Appreciate checking with the weights Paul... again speaks of your commitment
I'll also check my scale later just for myself and to be sure
As stated earlier the bat is a piece of beauty
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surely before u say a bat is to heavy? u should use the bat 1st?
if you hadn't weighted it would u have noticed? i think its a shame for people to get rid of an amazing bat just because its 2oz to heavy?
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surely before u say a bat is to heavy? u should use the bat 1st?
if you hadn't weighted it would u have noticed? i think its a shame for people to get rid of an amazing bat just because its 2oz to heavy?
i know its not easy to read big threads like this but as mentioned earlier
The Bat is for friend who requested 2lb 9oz
Bat weight is 2lb 11.8oz
My friend will look at the bat tonight hopefully and based on his feedback i'll let Paul know
my intent of this topic is to have a healthy discussion here and idea of sharing the pics is to show that its a quality product
The bat does feel heavier than 2lb 9oz but its a big bat
If it was for my personal use i would have kept it
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surely before u say a bat is to heavy? u should use the bat 1st?
if you hadn't weighted it would u have noticed? i think its a shame for people to get rid of an amazing bat just because its 2oz to heavy?
I make a point of never weiging my bats when I get new ones.
Ask for a weight, use is, if it feels way too heavy or light then I might lob it on the scales, but I think it just messes with your head if you weight it first up. Especially given your scales could well be off. I'd hope that most batmakers have decent scales and are honest about it :)
I'd also add that this isn't having a go at anyone who's ever sent back an overweight bat, but it does amaze me when people send it back without having a hit with it first, albeit maybe after confirming this is ok with the maker
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2'9...2'11...who cares as long as it feels right?! Or did it feel heavy when you got it? If it didn't then you should be praising Paul for giving you 2 extra oz of mass in the shot for no pickup penalty!
Bat looks awesome tbh!
Kulli has it spot on 8)
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i think it sometimes helps to ignore actual or dead weights on bats and just go on feel and pick up.
generally a high quality hand made bat will pick up lighter than an inferior one
this bat on this thread looks very nice indeed :)
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Like I said to you i was surprised how well that picked up. I always think bats like that feel heavier ( mongoose style) because its about levers. Also it's a personal thing and I may be wrong but that's why my style bats don't have the spine running to the toe as I feel it effects the pick up. I messed around with that kind of spine when I started but couldn't get the feel right until I changed it to what I have now. It's interesting as a bat maker as we offer bespoke bats but have a shape that I know picks up beautifully and has great feel but It now puts in the mind whether we stop being willing to create new shapes for people who can't come in to have them made as while we can keep the prices down but when something is wrong its then that we lose money as a business and that changes the way we progress. It's a tough one as I am adamant that we keep offering this bespoke option without charging more if it is closeish to what we have but I must admit sometimes it makes you doubt it.
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I have tried using heavier Bats many times in the past and I have shifted on every single one of them. For me and many other cricketers the dead weight f the bat is very important. For other players, it is pick up and they can use bat's that are 2oz heavier.
I think that when we have bats custom made as opposed to buying off the shelf ,you expect the weights to be spot on.
I know Paul goes to great lengths to insure that everything is spot on and he always looks for feedback on areas where he could possibly improve.
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For those that don't have the luxury of feeling how a bat picks up and must order online - eg living in a city with only one cricket shop with outrageous prices - dead weight and middle position are very important in ensuring you get a bat that picks up well for you. So I can appreciate where Amit and Cys1 are coming from.
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I have tried using heavier Bats many times in the past and I have shifted on every single one of them. For me and many other cricketers the dead weight f the bat is very important. For other players, it is pick up and they can use bat's that are 2oz heavier.
I think that when we have bats custom made as opposed to buying off the shelf ,you expect the weights to be spot on.
I know Paul goes to great lengths to insure that everything is spot on and he always looks for feedback on areas where he could possibly improve.
The problem comes because everyone uses different sets of scales, and not many of them will be of good enough quality to be giving very accurate results. And if batmakers are getting a fair few returns from people weighting bats on their kitchen scales then the prices will go up for the rest of us!
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The scale things a tough one isn't it. My mate where I grabbed the old weights from had to change his first set of new electronic scales for the shop when he had to change from the old balance scales as they weren't correct and got tested. He didn't know they were and he had paid over £500 for them it turns out they just had a fault so luckily didnt cost him anything extra. But he swore by his old balance scales so to me where do you go. I have put tried and tested weights on my scales to test them and they are right by those so what should I do. It's like shoe sizing I know I am a size 9 in bowling boots but when I used to have Adidas or still buy Adidas I have to buy a 10 so who's right. I don't know the answer as I could buy state of the art scales and they could still weigh different to what the customers reading is.
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Bat is absolute beauty, how big are the edges? If this is my bat then i would've easily ignore those extra 2 oz.
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That bat is stunning.
I have a sneaking suspicion when Mark rocks up at nets tonight with his new Supreme there may be a few more orders winging their way 'Up North'.
I'd have one but my wife has a very beady eye!
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The scale things a tough one isn't it. My mate where I grabbed the old weights from had to change his first set of new electronic scales for the shop when he had to change from the old balance scales as they weren't correct and got tested. He didn't know they were and he had paid over £500 for them it turns out they just had a fault so luckily didnt cost him anything extra. But he swore by his old balance scales so to me where do you go. I have put tried and tested weights on my scales to test them and they are right by those so what should I do. It's like shoe sizing I know I am a size 9 in bowling boots but when I used to have Adidas or still buy Adidas I have to buy a 10 so who's right. I don't know the answer as I could buy state of the art scales and they could still weigh different to what the customers reading is.
Hit asda and pick up a set of digital scales. Put your test weights on these as this will be more accurate. Old weights will of had wear. A laver of mine came in 3oz heavier than requested. My cheap digital scales were within 1gram against 3 sets of calibrated digital scales that we use in work.
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My weights aren't old.
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So here's the interesting anomaly...
Neither aldred bat that shipped overseas nor a number of Lavers have arrived weighing what the batmaker has weighed the bats at. My hypothesis is that somewhere in the airfreifht shipping cycle, something is affecting weight and while i have a theory, I'm not sure it is accurate and it needs some research.
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i am loosing my sleep over this weight issue
this guy got busy at work and did not show up
i weighed my iphone 4 and it weighs only 2 grams more than recommended weight
weighed myself on a proper scale with and without the bat and difference is 2.75 oz which is 2lb 12oz
so hopefully the scale i am using is correct
its a USPS postal service recommended scale
i am planning to order calibration weights to measure
am i going crazy .....help me :)
Anyways what matters is the bat
its awesome and highly recommend Aldred brand
i need some rest
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Well I am a man of very mixed emotions this morning like i12 lost sleep over the bat weight so have been out and spent nearly £50 on a pair of electronic scales. Have come back home grabbed a cleft to test the weight issues only to find the electronic ones giving the same reading as my old style ones. Just blown money on something I trusted was right. I am now not even going to worry about it now and accept I cannot do anymore than I already do and just keep trusting my instinct and not over worry. I think 99% of my customers seem happy so I will be satisfied with that.
(http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t472/Aldredcricket/a39d6f1da1caca6364722ad096e4cb91_zps05fcb371.jpg)
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i cant believe u just spent £50 on some scales lol
you can get them from 6.99 from asda that are just as good!
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Well the mrs might like a present. Wrap it up and that's her gift for the next year :)
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i had very similar scales to Paul up until a month of so ago. whilst i trusted them to be accurate i was always worried how the load of the bat was spread out and if the scales were accurate because of that. i bought a cheap digital set and did a test with those, the traditonal scales and another digital set which were a fair price.they were all within half an oz of each other so couldnt complain. stick with what you know Paul. if it was constant comments about weight then maybe you would need to look at it but a one off must have something else to do with the increase.
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Sorry tim2000s I was not able to insert your quote the normal way "So here's the interesting anomaly...
Neither aldred bat that shipped overseas nor a number of Lavers have arrived weighing what the batmaker has weighed the bats at. My hypothesis is that somewhere in the airfreifht shipping cycle, something is affecting weight and while i have a theory, I'm not sure it is accurate and it needs some research.".
It's an interesting point Tim about shipping bats and the weight differences (could be to do with temperature, moisture or pressure if air freighted). Testing this would take some effort with lots of variables, time and most of all money. I would think that they are gaining moisture somewhere in the shipping process as Paul's scales look to be accurate. Perhaps packing with silica gel in with bat to absorb some excess moisture could reduce this effect? I don’t suppose that the bats were oiled before it was weighed by the new owners?
Paul I think you have done all you can and glad to see you have check weights for your scales, shame it cost you so much for the new scales to find out that your other ones are accurate.
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Well the mrs might like a present. Wrap it up and that's her gift for the next year :)
hahaha u bad lad!
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i had very similar scales to Paul up until a month of so ago. whilst i trusted them to be accurate i was always worried how the load of the bat was spread out and if the scales were accurate because of that. i bought a cheap digital set and did a test with those, the traditonal scales and another digital set which were a fair price.they were all within half an oz of each other so couldnt complain. stick with what you know Paul. if it was constant comments about weight then maybe you would need to look at it but a one off must have something else to do with the increase.
The easy way would be to use some angler's digital scales and weigh the bat in a plastic bag hung off the hook - after zeroing them for the weight of the bag.
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The easy way would be to use some angler's digital scales and weigh the bat in a plastic bag hung off the hook - after zeroing them for the weight of the bag.
that was an option but thought the digital scales would be better
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I have decided that I don't think it matters what you do you just have to trust what you do. If your honest you can't do any more. My whole ethos from the start of making bats was to provide a service that not many professionals get that is to have bats made to order most staff players just get pre made bats sent out. They are the best ones granted but they are pre made. But my thing was to be honest and give as much customer service as possible but unfortunately business wise there is a limit to what you can do. I will keep doing what I am doing. It relates to something that was said to me years ago. I was struggling with my game and confidence as a young cricketer and an old England team mate sat in the changing rooms with me and said" how did you get yourself into this position in cricket where you have gained a contract year after year" my reply was " we'll because I could run in and bowl half decent away swing and have a big contribution in the field" his reply was " well there you have the answer don't change what you naturally do just learn and move forward, back yourself"
It is relative with whatever you do I think and sometimes just need reminding of it
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Back yourself Paul.
There are a growing band of very happy customers who back your judgement and honesty.
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Thanks Eddie much appreciated
Aldo
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Nice work Paul. Can't ask for much more than that!
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Paul - Much appreciated as always
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Finally my calibration weights also arrived
3 weights 500g, 300g, 50g
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Its a good thing to have . Anyways showing the bat today to this guy and for sure he should like it.
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PLEASE NOTE...This post is not to point fingers. It was just a continuity of what i stated earlier.
I HIGHLY appreciate Paul's work and can only hope that tim2000s theory works
For that matter I am ready to place my next big order with Paul.
Again all this is a healthy discussion and i know some of the forum members are young and not mature enough and jump to the -ve side of things
Admins Please LOCK this topic. I'll let Paul know about the bat through emails
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As you started the thread you should have the option to lock this thread yourself, bottom right.
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As you started the thread you should have the option to lock this thread yourself, bottom right.
Don't see that option.
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Don't see that option.
It looks like the option has been removed.