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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: Kulli on April 02, 2013, 10:50:29 AM

Title: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: Kulli on April 02, 2013, 10:50:29 AM
Just out of interest, if you guys were offered your choice from the clefts pictured below, which would you go for, presuming density, cost etc were all the same, so just on looks, or how you think they'd perform?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/f4b32ec5-2e4c-4bba-83ee-2374b7f03d1a_zps9f565088.jpg)

EDIT -  not sure how to make the image larger, so you might need to do the zooming manually.

EDIT MK2 - fixed
Title: Re: Selecting a Celft
Post by: RoCo Da Pixie on April 02, 2013, 10:54:47 AM
Personally I wouldn't choose any as I don't like heartwood on my bats.

My general choice is made by seeing a cleft with 8-12 grains, nicely spaced out and a clean overal blade.
Title: Re: Selecting a Celft
Post by: Simmy on April 02, 2013, 10:59:44 AM
far left for me
Title: Re: Selecting a Celft
Post by: ajmw89 on April 02, 2013, 11:00:49 AM
Either of the 2 on the left would be my pick
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: tushar sehgal on April 02, 2013, 11:18:03 AM
First 2 on the left or 2nd from right..
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: wilkie113 on April 02, 2013, 11:38:24 AM
Second from the right, I was immediately drawn to.

I think if you've got a gut instinct so to speak when you first look at the pictures/clefts, go with that
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: Kulli on April 02, 2013, 11:45:54 AM
Second from the right, I was immediately drawn to.

I think if you've got a gut instinct so to speak when you first look at the pictures/clefts, go with that

I liked that one on first look too, the furthest left looks nice but is a bit too grain heavy for me. Don't think anything here will effect my decision, but always interested in what others think, especially on subjective matters.
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: RoCo Da Pixie on April 02, 2013, 11:50:54 AM
Out of curiosity who is the maker that these clefts belong to?
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: smokem on April 02, 2013, 11:51:55 AM
Either the 1st from the left or 2nd from the right. I like straight evenly spaced grains.
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: Kulli on April 02, 2013, 11:55:49 AM
Out of curiosity who is the maker that these clefts belong to?

They don't belong to the maker anymore :P
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: RoCo Da Pixie on April 02, 2013, 11:57:02 AM
They don't belong to the maker anymore :P

I will rephrase the question then.

Which batmaker did the pictures originate from?
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: Kulli on April 02, 2013, 11:58:39 AM
Salix.
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: Kulli on April 02, 2013, 12:03:29 PM
My original thought. How did you get them to give clefts to you?

I didn't, these are just the clefts selected by a shop who visited them.
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: Ryan on April 02, 2013, 12:04:11 PM
far left or second one in from the right.
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: Buzz on April 02, 2013, 12:20:31 PM
I would find it enourmously hard to choose from that (actually any number!).

In that scenario I would almost certainly ask for the lightest and best performing cleft from the selection and leave it up to the bat maker.
 
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: IQ on April 02, 2013, 12:25:45 PM
what grade were these meant to be
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: Kulli on April 02, 2013, 12:32:38 PM
what grade were these meant to be

Not entirely sure (the writing on them says but I've no idea what the code is, Paul or Asad might), but I believe they're all lower grades as AK downgrades heartwood.

I would find it enourmously hard to choose from that (actually any number!).

In that scenario I would almost certainly ask for the lightest and best performing cleft from the selection and leave it up to the bat maker.

Quite, I don't have to choose one of the clefts, but If I do select one then I can make sure it's in my weight range. Unfortunately I don't know the weights or performances of the clefts, so will just have to wait and see.

Wasn't planning quite such an expensive preseason purchase but the Norwegian tax man was kind to me so it's nice to support a local retailer, as i don't get the chance often!
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: GarrettJ on April 02, 2013, 12:37:50 PM
far left or second one in from the right.

Same for me
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: Kulli on May 15, 2013, 06:32:03 AM
In final form it still came down to a choice between the Pod(far left) and a Presæntha (2nd from the right), the Latter was an Oz lighter and felt better in the hands so I went for it.

Pictures to follow when it stops raining.
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: Tail Ender on May 15, 2013, 06:50:54 AM
Second on the left for me.
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: GarrettJ on May 15, 2013, 07:36:31 AM
is it not possible to get a bat without this brown wood on it these days!

Every bat i have had with it on has split at the join of the brown and white wood
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: Kulli on May 15, 2013, 07:55:32 AM
is it not possible to get a bat without this brown wood on it these days!

Every bat i have had with it on has split at the join of the brown and white wood

These were all performance grade bats because of the heartwood. I believe Salix won't sell anything with heartwood in it as Players or Grade 1.
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: morgzy10 on May 15, 2013, 08:43:44 AM
i would definatly go for the bat in the middle with the outside edge heartwood,    tasty looking grains and nice straight heartwood down the blade
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on May 15, 2013, 09:41:26 PM
These were all performance grade bats because of the heartwood. I believe Salix won't sell anything with heartwood in it as Players or Grade 1.
Looked at some salix at globe sports yesterday. They had a pod, £380 I think, 6 wide straight grains. Also finish is no better than h4l or laver.
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: Chad on May 15, 2013, 09:46:14 PM
These were all performance grade bats because of the heartwood. I believe Salix won't sell anything with heartwood in it as Players or Grade 1.

My brother's Pod Players has heartwood on the outside edge. It is a good bat for the price I got it for, but I would have expected that to be their Grade 1 offering! :-[
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: Kulli on May 16, 2013, 06:29:28 AM
Just a couple of quick snaps taken with an iPhone, will try and post a proper review once the rain holds off long enough to use it.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/Picture038_zpsbf341ea3.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/Picture038_zpsbf341ea3.jpg.html)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/Picture036_zps0444b5ea.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/Picture036_zps0444b5ea.jpg.html)

Made from the second cleft from the right here

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v79/kullibino/f4b32ec5-2e4c-4bba-83ee-2374b7f03d1a_zps9f565088.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/kullibino/media/f4b32ec5-2e4c-4bba-83ee-2374b7f03d1a_zps9f565088.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: thedevil on May 16, 2013, 07:26:51 AM
Damnnnnnnn, that is a thing of beauty.  Don't know what everyone has against heartwood, gives it a bit of character in my opinion plus probably knocks a bit off the price from salix
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: Kulli on May 16, 2013, 07:34:28 AM
One of the clefts (furthest right i think) turned out to have a huge butterly stain on the back of the bat, and was downgraded to a wasp. If it hadn't been 2'12 I'd have had that away with me instead, a real beauty and downgraded for something with no (or positive depending on who you listen to) effect on performance.

A ropey picture of all the finished bats as they arrived in Oslo (couple sold before i got there)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/945497_584936434871124_1120325798_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: RoCo Da Pixie on May 16, 2013, 08:05:24 AM
That wasp looks a stunner. I have a wasp as my match bat and I am really impressed with Salix
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: Kulli on May 16, 2013, 08:20:58 AM
It was a beauty at at a good chunk cheaper than the rest i was very tempted, was way too heavy for me though so made the right decision in the end.
Title: Re: Selecting a Cleft
Post by: nudgemaster on May 17, 2013, 03:31:16 PM
Middle one of the Salix bats looks a nice piece to be fair....