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General Cricket => Cricket Training, Fitness and Injuries => Topic started by: GarrettJ on May 27, 2013, 08:31:25 PM
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you are able to think about all this before a bowler bowls?
Nick Faldo says in golf most people can only think about three things during a swing (he said he could think of 6 but that isn't normal, nor is he!)
if watch the ball and stay still are two that everyone has to do... it makes all these other things you have been blogging about difficult to do, especially as for me the third thing should be clearing your mind.
I have read your blogs and I am sure there is a lot of stuff that will help players, but I think, for me, combining all this pre ball stuff and the other delivery stuff takes away the essence of batting, which should be to set your talent free from your brain.
these are just my thoughts and i am interested if others disagree.
I always like reading technical blogs as they allow you to challenge your methods, to make you think: is there a better way of playing.
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ask Pete Sampras what he was thinking as he was serving for the Wimbledon trophy and he will say... nothing.
ask Goran and the answer is very different. they both won though.
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Im really enjoying these post's john, please keep them up!
Also mate did you decide on a bat in the end mate?
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Another good read enjoying it :D
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I find i bat best when thinking about something completely unrelated to cricket between balls, with hopefully no thought running through my head whilst playing the ball or while the bowlers running in.
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That's why women always get men out, cos we are thinking of 'other things' when she's running into bowl.
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enjoy the read but I'm with Buzz.
I literally try and think of nothing other than watch the ball. After that it's all down to what comes naturally and trusting yourself.. Just my little 2p's worth.
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I find i bat best when thinking about something completely unrelated to cricket between balls
I got the wrong impression with that one.. :-[
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well I suppose I do have more of a routine than I thought then.
Right foot on my guard. Check hands are gripping the bat and then settle into the ready position.. then think about nothing other than watching the ball and see what happens.
Does that count as a routine ?
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I obsessively draw Vs over the bat with my hands every ball. Something my coach taught me when I was a wee little kid but it has morphed into a pre ball routine over the years. Beyond that, its just take a deep breath, get into my stance and FOCUS!
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I've written a blog too on the art of batting
http://naugerblog.wordpress.com/2013/05/28/simplicity/ (http://naugerblog.wordpress.com/2013/05/28/simplicity/)
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I've written a blog too on the art of batting
[url]http://naugerblog.wordpress.com/2013/05/28/simplicity/[/url] ([url]http://naugerblog.wordpress.com/2013/05/28/simplicity/[/url])
ROFL....
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Nah you're alright mate. I'll stick to being a cricket coach
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Seems that some viallge cricketers on here seem to know better than what is taught to international cricketers.
Involved in that study was Matt Elliot, Ricky Ponting and a few others.
I was taught how to bat by Gus Logie and Desmond Haynes and scored 43 agianst West Indies, 66 against Trinidada and two 30's agaisnt Barbados but it seems what i say is an over complication and rubbish.
Why bother contributing what i have been taught by great batsmen when all cricket seems to be to the Custom Bat Forum gods, Buzz and Nauger is to stay still, see the ball and hit it.
As there is nothing more to batting than Nauger posted, i am finished with psoting on here.
GarrettJ .... account deleted.
Quite an unnecessary strop.
The reality is that, as I said what works for one may not work for another. Sachin Tendulkar says stay still, clear you mind and watch the ball... that is good enoguh for most club players.
Nick and I coach club players and most people, in our experience over complicate what they do. The blogs you write have been interesting to read but, just as you can get over your thoughts we can make ours.
I have written a book on batting which some people have found helpful, so I feel slightly qualified to help.
You write about looking at a "box" as the bowler releases the ball. I coach look for the seam in the bowlers hand, for example, different ideas - people work in different ways.
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Seems that some viallge cricketers on here seem to know better than what is taught to international cricketers.
Involved in that study was Matt Elliot, Ricky Ponting and a few others.
I was taught how to bat by Gus Logie and Desmond Haynes and scored 43 agianst West Indies, 66 against Trinidada and two 30's agaisnt Barbados but it seems what i say is an over complication and rubbish.
Why bother contributing what i have been taught by great batsmen when all cricket seems to be to the Custom Bat Forum gods, Buzz and Nauger is to stay still, see the ball and hit it.
As there is nothing more to batting than Nauger posted, i am finished with psoting on here.
GarrettJ .... account deleted.
How can you sit there behind a computer screen and know how every persons mind works. As a 'qualified' coach whatever that means as buzz knows far more than me. And also with a degeee and 2/3 of a masters in coaching. I think im probably in a fairly good place to comment on the cognitive skill development stahe of coaching! The fact you dont get this and believe that throwing hundreds of coaching points at people is going to help, is laughable. I know what you're trying to do and your cricket knowledge and experience is sound. Just spend a couple hours researching coaching style and you'll see how complicated you're making it!
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Cricket is only complicated when you think about it. Batting and bowling are easier when you don't think and let things come naturally. The advice and hard work should come off the pitch. On the pitch is about relaxing and doing what you do best. Most coaches, from what I have read, keep messages down to a couple of simple things. Too many messages and the player loses focus. My thoughts anyway.
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Absolutely Nick, its all about making sure that the skill doesn't fall apart when you get to a pressure situation. Too many cues and there's too many things to think about in a pressure cooker situation. Imagine a golfer who's theoreticcally had 10,000 hours of putting coaching against a pro who's just had the 10,000 hours of practice. Both are just as good, but one has to think about every stage of the skill, whereas the other just does it. Who's going to hold it together at the 18th hole off the ryder cup? Now obviously that is in exceptional circumstances, but less is definitely more when it comes to coaching. The more you can get them to do it by feel, as opposed to breaking it down into 100 coaching points the better they will be! IMO thats one of the reasons why the best players don't always make the best coaches!
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I've written a blog too on the art of batting
[url]http://naugerblog.wordpress.com/2013/05/28/simplicity/[/url] ([url]http://naugerblog.wordpress.com/2013/05/28/simplicity/[/url])
seems a bit long winded and wordy to me!
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;) my point exactly. You have no idea it took me to sign up to wordpress to make that point!
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'Nauger Blog' - that would make a good stage name in a Scandanavian detective drama
.........................or am I overthinking things?
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It was all to make a point lol, I hadn't really thought through the logistics and overthought the name of the blog lol.
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Nahhh, I like it. I'm going to steal it and use it for my alter-ego; a cross-dressing, fast-bowling, big-hitting tail-ender from the small Danish town of Hankmarvin.
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I think fattus should write the book on post ball routines ;)
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Jeez some people really can't take being called up on stuff...
Doesn't matter who's taught you this or who's coached you that. You have to do whatever feels right for you. Everyone is different
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Has he really thrown the toys out that badly. That's pretty pathetic lol. Can't be overly bothered about being a decent coach if he can't take people disagreeing with him. Poor form! Coaching is all about disagreement, debate and learning from other people!
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Has he really thrown the toys out that badly. That's pretty pathetic lol. Can't be overly bothered about being a decent coach if he can't take people disagreeing with him. Poor form! Coaching is all about disagreement, debate and learning from other people!
I completely disagree!
(Did you see what I did there?)
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You're another one with no idea what they're talking about